Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 258.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 04:53:53 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 04:53:01 AM

There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.

Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

BitNow

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1003

Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 04:53:01 AM

There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.

Best regards.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 04:47:09 AM

Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 04:30:13 AM

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.

Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?

There is no difference in there, neither a question.

There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

BitNow

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1003

Quote from: strayanbit on January 15, 2016, 04:45:43 AM

Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor."
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?

Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 04:47:09 AM

Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 04:30:13 AM

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.

Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?

There is no difference in there, neither a question.

Best regards.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 04:30:13 AM

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.

Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?

strayanbit

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

BitNow

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1003

Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?

Because they don't understand proper English.

What is Faith to you?

Best regards.

BitNow

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1003

Quote from: organofcorti on January 15, 2016, 04:25:24 AM

The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:

Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 06:45:29 PM

BitNow, you say:

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:

Quote

idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?

So, BitNow, how do you respond?

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.

Best regards.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: BitNow on January 15, 2016, 04:23:28 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 06:45:29 PM

BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:

Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 06:45:29 PM

BitNow, you say:

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:

Quote

idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?

So, BitNow, how do you respond?

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: notbatman on January 15, 2016, 04:01:39 AM

Tangible proof our planet was created:

That's not tangible, that's a photograph.

BitNow

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1003

Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 06:45:29 PM

BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

I and user BADecker are on the same side: side of Faith (the law of God).

I repeat my question:

Quote from: BitNow on January 13, 2016, 04:34:19 PM

Faith: does it exist without God?

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?

Thank You.

Best regards

notbatman

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 1038

Quote from: strayanbit on January 15, 2016, 03:43:24 AM

Nothing wrong with worship of idols, at least they're more tangible than an invisble, non-existant being that didn't create the world.

Tangible proof our planet was created:

BTW you spelled invisible and existent wrong, it's advisable to ensure your spelling is correct when trying to prove how smart you are when parroting the garbage science you've been force fed and believe with such absolute faith and conviction you'd never dare to question it. Wink

oHnK

hero member

Activity: 1414

Merit: 574

I think, not every atheists hate religon but they hate the person who taught the religion in the right way.

strayanbit

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Nothing wrong with worship of idols, at least they're more tangible than an invisble, non-existant being that didn't create the world.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 06:29:23 PM

Sorry, I should be more clear.

BitNow, you say:

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:

Quote

idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?

BADecker

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 1373

Quote from: organofcorti on January 14, 2016, 06:12:39 PM

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

That doesn't seem to be a majority opinion. BADecker's definition is as follows:

The question is, is an atheist worshiping himself when he suggests that he is worshiping nothing? He is holding his views higher than God's, especially in the face of the scientific proof that God exists. The only strength that mankind has is from God.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:

Quote

idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

So, who is correct - your source or BADecker's source?

And, once again: How is atheism "idolatry"?

Once again, atheism is idolatry because the atheist is holding himself above God, as an idol, by stating that God does not exist.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: BitNow on January 14, 2016, 09:15:31 AM

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

That doesn't seem to be a majority opinion. BADecker's definition is as follows:

The question is, is an atheist worshiping himself when he suggests that he is worshiping nothing? He is holding his views higher than God's, especially in the face of the scientific proof that God exists. The only strength that mankind has is from God.

Quote from: BADecker on January 14, 2016, 05:18:54 AM

In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:

Quote

idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

So, who is correct - your source or BADecker's source?

And, once again: How is atheism "idolatry"?

BADecker

legendary

Activity: 3906

Merit: 1373

Quote from: Tyrantt on January 14, 2016, 04:48:49 PM

Spirituality and the philosophy of a religion is one, but actually believing that there's something out there and other fairytales, in 21th century, is kind of... stupid. I mean, I don't hate religion or anything, I just don't go into that argument if not for the lulz. Believe in a three headed unicorn that shoots rainbow out of his ass, I don't really care, just don't shove it into other peoples throats...

Exactly! All this religion of science theory that is fiction is being shoved down the throats of our school children, often in ways that force them to accept it as truth. In addition, all that evolution theory fiction is being forced down the throats of everybody who trains to go into the medical.

At the same time, the science that proves the existence of God is totally ignored, even covered up, though it is simple to understand and right out in the open.

You have made such a good point here.

capcher

full member

Activity: 224

Merit: 100

This user is currently ignored.

Being atheist simply means you don't believe in the existence of god(s). You can be an atheist and still love, hate, or be indifferent towards religion.

Regarding my feelings on religion, on one hand I like how some religious people go above and beyond to be nice and supportive toward other human being. Like I remember this Christian meeting session where you get free food like cakes and cookies (yes, I'm that superficial). I remember being active in church once upon a time and everybody is like so friendly and happy and generous.

Yet there are darker sides to it. Like sometimes you feel that people are just being nice for the sake of the reward in afterlife. It feels hypocritical.

Worse off, I hate how religion can be used to justify pretty much anything. Then you get people like ISIS and Westboro.

Tyrantt

hero member

Activity: 1022

Merit: 564

Need some spare btc for a new PC

Spirituality and the philosophy of a religion is one, but actually believing that there's something out there and other fairytales, in 21th century, is kind of... stupid. I mean, I don't hate religion or anything, I just don't go into that argument if not for the lulz. Believe in a three headed unicorn that shoots rainbow out of his ass, I don't really care, just don't shove it into other peoples throats...

Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 258. (Read 901367 times)