Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 271.

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 12:02:26 PM

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 06:08:57 AM

No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?

Best regards.

I have no religion, only theories none of which include any gods. And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.

Best regards.

Actually, atheism is one of the strongest beliefs. Why? Because common sense suggests that something must have made the universe. In addition, science says that there is a God, when combining: 1) cause and effect; 2) complexity; 3) entropy.

Since atheism is based on very strong faith against the obvious, atheism is a strong religion by finding all kinds of irrational points to hold itself in place.

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Quote from: Wilikon on May 08, 2015, 02:56:55 PM

Quote from: erikalui on May 08, 2015, 12:13:49 PM

I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.

My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".

Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.

This is not a fact but an almost impossible act to follow. It's like trying to touch the horizon. You can't. But you have a path to follow, a direction the needle of your inner compass will point to... Some people have it naturally, others need guidance and a reminder why they are more than a animal, IF they chose to...

Same with judging. you cannot NOT judge at every moment, every time you breathe... Since those "orders" are impossible to follow to the letter, being the nature of human we will forever be sinners... I haven't open a bible in centuries but that is how I interpreted it.... I could be wrong, of course.

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That's pretty much every religion. "You are a man you are a sinner you must repent and pay us to run our holy church/temple/mosque whatever."

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 12:11:52 PM

Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

It's a heinous waste of time to argue with Decker.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 12:11:52 PM

Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

Thank You for your wise words.

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 12:02:26 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 22, 2015, 12:00:20 PM

Quote from: helloeverybody on December 22, 2015, 06:16:58 AM

Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 06:11:56 AM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 06:08:57 AM

No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?

Best regards.

I have no religion, only theories none of which include any gods. And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.

Best regards.

Badecker you are confused between a "guy believing in some day to day strategies" and a "guy worshiping and giving elite/supreme importance to something most likely super natural stuff"

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Quote from: 1aguar on December 21, 2015, 11:35:11 PM

Since man is a rational being, a creature of reason, it is obvious that GOD would want man to think. BADecker implies that thinking is a religion, but it is perfectly fair to ask BADecker "compared to what?" Another question to ask of him is "how can we know that you are not misleading us into a false religion? what is the fruit of such a belief? why should one choose a belief which is irrational and against reason, which denies man's basic virtue? is it balanced to equivocate opinion and reason?", etc.

Compared to a religion of non-thinking.

If you can't tell which religion is false, you don't really have any ability to be speaking logically in this or any forum. False religion is thinking that there is some way to save yourself from death by what you can do.

The irrational belief is that man's rationality is great enough to figure out enough for life that does not die. After all, it is obvious from all the research done that mankind hasn't even figured a way out to extend his life to 200 years. But if you can find some oriental guy who figured out how to live for, say, 250 years or more, he is 1 in billions.

It is obvious from what he writes that the reasoning abilities of 1aguar (and people like him) fall way short of their ideals.

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Quote from: legendster on December 22, 2015, 12:06:12 PM

Wait I am confused are you a religious man or not? Am I supposed to like you or not? lol from what I have quote I can see you are promoting a 'belief in god' which is not like by many, including me.

Given that:
1. Atheism is a sin (idolatry).
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_have_no_other_gods_before_me
2. Atheists need to die (capital sin).
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

I won't to understand why I'm here trying to understand the point of view of dead people.

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Quote from: 1aguar on December 22, 2015, 12:04:54 PM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 08:48:34 AM

Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on December 22, 2015, 08:44:49 AM

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

There is quite a bit of scientific research to support veridical perception and consciousness after death, including the recent AWARE study where the patient's recollections were verified even though the patient was totally brain-dead (i.e. actually dead); here are some resources you can explore:
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

lol what people claim to be 'near death experience' are just hallucinations. Want to recreate it? It can be easily and safely done. What you see and dream about with your eyes closed is just your brain going woozy as it slowly dies nothing more and nothing less.

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 11:57:55 AM

Quote from: legendster on December 22, 2015, 11:56:43 AM

Are you naive ? A bigot ? A troll ? or been raised surrounded by idiots ?

I am sorry this is not a personal attack.

Best Regards

I'm in the wrong thread and I wan't to know why.

Best regards.

Wait I am confused are you a religious man or not? Am I supposed to like you or not? lol from what I have quote I can see you are promoting a 'belief in god' which is not like by many, including me.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 08:48:34 AM

Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on December 22, 2015, 08:44:49 AM

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

There is quite a bit of scientific research to support veridical perception and consciousness after death, including the recent AWARE study where the patient's recollections were verified even though the patient was totally brain-dead (i.e. actually dead); here are some resources you can explore:
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

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Quote from: BADecker on December 22, 2015, 12:00:20 PM

Quote from: helloeverybody on December 22, 2015, 06:16:58 AM

Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 06:11:56 AM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 06:08:57 AM

No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?

Best regards.

I have no religion, only theories none of which include any gods. And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

You could say that he has some sort of belief system in place.

Atheism is the lack of believe that is why I refuse the definition of atheism as religion.

Best regards.

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Quote from: helloeverybody on December 22, 2015, 06:16:58 AM

Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 06:11:56 AM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 06:08:57 AM

No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?

Best regards.

I have no religion, only theories none of which include any gods. And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

All of this in your quote directly above is, then, is part of your religious belief, and your religion.

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Quote from: legendster on December 22, 2015, 11:56:43 AM

Are you naive ? A bigot ? A troll ? or been raised surrounded by idiots ?

I am sorry this is not a personal attack.

Best Regards

I'm in the wrong thread and I wan't to know why.

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 06:40:21 AM

Infact you don't have to believe in God.

Believing in God gives you lots of things: last of the which is Eternal Life, but you don't have to believe a God to live.

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Are you naive ? A bigot ? A troll ? or been raised surrounded by idiots ?

I am sorry this is not a personal attack.

Best Regards

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 11:31:44 AM

I never said it is and neither i am throwing at anyone but I see you have a misunderstanding among 'differentiating facts from knowledge' and 'throwing shit' and you should correct it from a better source than wiki*****.

I know the difference.

The British empire was one of the greatest empires in history. FACT
Roman Empire was one of the greatest empires in history (and came before the British Empire). FACT
Americans always fight with the British. FACT

I don't want to loose time in this fight just to prove that I understand proper English. FACT

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 11:27:45 AM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 11:24:04 AM

That was a typo and it was supposed to be " It " ,It still doesn't proves your illogical point of view ? how come you lose the control in such short time span.If you are believing in something then it reflects the foundation of your philosophy.

Aside the fact that it was a typo (really?!?), I never had control over the Wikipedia community, I'm just stating that throwing shit on something is never a smart move.

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I never said it is and neither i am throwing at anyone but I see you have a misunderstanding among 'differentiating facts from knowledge' and 'throwing shit' and you should correct it from a better source than wiki*****.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 11:24:04 AM

That was a typo and it was supposed to be " It " ,It still doesn't proves your illogical point of view ? how come you lose the control in such short time span.If you are believing in something then it reflects the foundation of your philosophy.

Aside the fact that it was a typo (really?!?), I never had control over the Wikipedia community, I'm just stating that throwing shit on something is never a smart move.

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 11:16:55 AM

Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 11:13:19 AM

I was a community (including you) and within an hour you lost your control over it ? Isn't it questionable when it's so hard to prove what you believe.
Looks like the new religions has eradicated logic from human mind ?

You cannot be a Community: a community needs two people (at least) to be called a community.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community

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That was a typo and it was supposed to be " It " ,It still doesn't proves your illogical point of view ? how come you lose the control in such short time span.If you are believing in something then it reflects the foundation of your philosophy.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 22, 2015, 11:13:19 AM

I was a community (including you) and within an hour you lost your control over it ? Isn't it questionable when it's so hard to prove what you believe.
Looks like the new religions has eradicated logic from human mind ?

You cannot be a Community: a community needs two people (at least) to be called a community.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community

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Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 11:07:12 AM

which I have no control over.

Quote from: BitNow on December 22, 2015, 09:22:50 AM

It is called Community (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community).

Wikipedia is a community for Knowledge.

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I was a community (including you) and within an hour you lost your control over it ? Isn't it questionable when it's so hard to prove what you believe.
Looks like the new religions has eradicated logic from human mind ?

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