Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 288. (Read 901367 times)

Both ways are a bit farfetched. These are just numbers someone has pulled out of their ass and there's no way to fully explain this in the form of statistics.

See, that's the difference with atheists. Atheists have a religion that just doesn't care.

The other religions want to convert people so that people have a better life here, and in most cases, a better life in the next life.

It isn't that atheists don't have religion. They just don't have religion that is anywhere near the truth.

Oh, who cares. It isn't the job of religious people to keep atheists from committing suicide with their religion. Let 'em go. They have all the chance in the world to change. But if they want to remain in their willful ignorance, let 'em.

I find this hard to believe.
I think what you mean is 90% of those in church ignore what's in the bible and just do their own thing.
That's much more believable.

because atheists don't like people whom too fanatic with their own religion and don't appreciate other religion and want all of people (especially for atheists) to follow their religion

If you are talking about 90% of Christian churches, you are wrong. However, there are many faulty preachers, and all people make mistakes at times, even preachers.

Are you under Matrix control when you talk about others controlling people? Do they control you? People who believe in God of the Bible live in peace, even though their controllers do not. Then the controllers die and will face judgment at the resurrection.

There is no documented history beyond about 4,500 to 5,000 years ago. Nobody knows about history beyond that. Carbon dating is not accurate and cannot be trusted. The only thing you are trusting when you believe things like 14,000 BC is the delusions of other people. So, you have faith in things that are suppositions. Why not believe the eye-witness reports of the Bible?

I check facts daily. I check the Bible where the facts exist.

Because its lies affect our lives. In democracies, even as bad as ours are, it matters what others believe.

Yeah, your right! The preacher are those who should tech us about the word of God, but do they?

During my research I found that the preachers are those who change the way of how should people look at the Bible. Do you know that 90% people who go in to the church, they never heard about the Bible?

Let's talk about the Matrix now. What do you think, how the the people create this huge system for massive control of the people!? They have read the Bible and change some things in politic system so they can teach people that the true government is chosen by God!

Now about the documents and facts... If you really want to be sure that you holding the document and the fact in your hands, then you must compare them. What I mean is... The first, the oldest and original story of the Bible come from ancient Sumeria. The books of the Bible was found on 22 000 stone tablets who are according to new research are older then 14 000 b.c.e.

You can check that fact if you like!

Hey! That's quite an interesting religion you have there. That dogmatic doctrine of "live and let live" approaches the one in the Bible.

I dont believe in religion.. but i dont hate it tho.. Let everyone live the life they want

And, yet, if there happened to be nothing wrong with a particular religion, would religion be needed to tell others about God, Jesus and salvation? Personally, I think that true and right religion would be needed to send out missionaries to preach the Word of God, the Bible.

There are other non-Biblical books and scrolls that were written before the Bible was compiled. There are only a few places in the Bible that may have been taken from writings going back to the time of the Creation - the first two chapters in Genesis.

The only complete book of the Bible that is possibly older that the writings of Moses (the first 5 books of the Bible) is Job. The writings of Moses may contain the oldest writings, even though the vast majority of his stuff was written over 40 years in the mid 1500s BC.

In the spirit of providing a possible look, see http://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/bible-basics/what-are-the-earliest-versions-and-translations-of-the-bible.aspx. The traditions of the Jews suggest that the best Old Testament (Tanakh) is the one we have today.

Atheists say that they believe in men.

When do they say it? They say it by inferring it, when they take authority on themselves and say that there is no God.

When they say that there is no God, they are making themselves out to be greater than God, because they do not factually know that there is no God. In fact, all of nature shouts that a God far greater than mankind exists.

Because of this, atheists believe in man as God. So, they believe in mankind and men.

No offense taken. You are right, at least in part.

What or who is a Christian? The dictionaries give various meanings to the word "Christian." However, we probably wouldn't have such a word if there had been no Jesus Christ. But if the word existed without Jesus, it would probably pertain to the promised Messiah of the Jews, Who they have almost given up on because they don't believe in Jesus and they don't see anyone else who could be the Messiah.

If by Christian one means a believer in Jesus of the New Testament, and at the same time this Christian does not understand salvation by faith in Jesus work on the cross and resurrection, he has a very weak understanding of the Christ.

The point is, nobody can be saved without the salvation of Jesus, the Christ. Why not? Because God requires perfection, and even if a person never sinned, there would be genetic imperfection handed down from his parents.

Thus, a real Christian (not one who only says he is) is one who believes in Jesus for salvation in the coming resurrection. Why? Because that is what the Christ is all about. To see it, all one need do is read the New Testament, the only place from which basic info about Jesus Christ is derived. Either you believe all of it, or you are not really believing any of it.

I will say: Why atheists don't know the difference between the religion and spirituality?

What is written in the ancient sacred text and what society want us to think is so different and so wrong! People like you (atheists) should blame the preachers, not the books! I know why you hate religion, because I hate it to, but the difference between religion and God is so different.

There is only one book in this world who is talking about the creation of the world like nature, animals and humans, creation of the nations and countries and creation of the relationships between you and your people around you... The Bible. The first and the oldest book that is ever written since the first humans first emerges.  This book is not just verified bu our modern science, but also is the most researched book that ever exist.

Every person who read, understand and start to practice the Bible will know the difference between good, bad and relativity. If you think that Islam or Hinduism are other religion that they should exist, then look up in the Bible and see what will happen with this two groups of ''religion''.

The true christian will know the meaning of the word christian, the meaning of the name Christ and will deciphers the meaning of the Revelation (the last book of John in the New Testament).

Some people they even believe in men.


Best regards.

no offense but not all Christians believe that.

Are you atheist?


Best regards.

The point isn't how much or how little sinning people do. The point is whther or not they are saved or damned.

God doesn't want sinning.  But the people who believe in Jesus salvation will be saved, no matter how much sinning they do. And the people who do NOT believe in Jesus salvation will NOT be saved, no matter how innocent they are... because they are not perfect, and God requires perfection, and Jesus is perfection offered to all by faith.

Ditto ^^.

The thing Gandhi didn't understand is, Christians who are true believers in Christ, even though they commit a lot of crime and are slapped around by God for it, will ultimately be saved. Gandhi will be damned unless he had the belief in the salvation of Jesus, thereby being a true Christian.