Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 339.

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Quote from: 21coin on September 18, 2015, 03:44:26 AM

Cause nothing like that exists, you die and you just die there's nothing after it. The vital processes that make you live just stop nothing dramatic after that

Man: start to think better things in Life.

You may even find Happiness.

"Instead thinking about Death, think about Life".

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I don't know what atheists really think. But by their statements, they are essentially saying that they are God. Maybe they are a G-d, as well, whatever that is.

On the first place dont be so judgemental please, there is no such thing in the world that all atheist would agree on ,every guys has a different opinion..
I am an A too but I don't think I am God ..

god exists bl bla bla bla
2. There is a lot of evidence, and even scientific proof that God DOES exist.

god exists bl bla bla bla

Give me one scientific proof of that. Secondly how do you even know god speaks english so as to answer your prayers, now dont give me that shit about he can do anything bla bla bla

What does speaking English have to do with answering prayers? If God answers in Latin, or some Heavenly language, He still answers.

The three scientific laws, that when combined prove that God exists, are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Universal entropy;
3. Universal complexity (which may be an observation rather than a law).

Put them together, and you have no other understanding than that God exists.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12437583

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You can prove anything you want by coldly logical reason---if you pick the proper postulates

And try reading the book's "Cutie" chapter for knowing what I'm talking about.

Thank you for agreeing that there is proof that God exists.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 03:42:58 AM

Quote from: 21coin on September 18, 2015, 03:41:40 AM

Yeah yeah see you in hell then

Why you want to go to hell?

Please answer I want to understand.

Thank You.

Cause nothing like that exists, you die and you just die there's nothing after it. The vital processes that make you live just stop nothing dramatic after that

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 03:34:47 AM

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 03:26:44 AM

You are wrong to say it's too late for him.

It's never too late.

Thank You.

There is even a place in Hebrews, in the New Testament, that says that if a person who is a believer falls away, it will be impossible for him to be brought back to faith again.

So you agree with me? Atheists need to die?

Thank You.

No, I don't agree. Atheists have their place even if they can never be brought to faith, just the same as those who believe in a false god.

However, some atheists are simply liars without knowing it. They are believers in heart, but have been hurt in life, and are struggling against God in their spiritual pain, not realizing that God is the one Who is trying to help them. Perhaps they will come to God someday.

There are other atheists who simply have not heard about God. Give them a chance to be saved. One never knows when they might turn.

Will atheists die? It seems that most people die sooner or later. There isn't anybody running around admitting that he is 200 years old. If there is, he doesn't have documented proof. It would be in the newspapers.

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Quote from: 21coin on September 18, 2015, 03:41:40 AM

Yeah yeah see you in hell then

Why you want to go to hell?

Please answer I want to understand.

Thank You.

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Quote from: mindrust on September 18, 2015, 03:36:21 AM

Interesting nobody asks the question "Why does religious dudes hating atheists?"

All of the religious books are full with hate againts atheists, yet still, atheists are blamed for hating. Sad

I don't hate atheists.

Were in the phrase "atheists need to die" you infer hate?

It's a theological conclusion based on the sin of idolatry (1st Commandement) and the Golden Calf episode (Ex 32:4).

Atheists do not believe in God so they put idols in the place of God: idolatry sin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Commandment)
Idolatry is punished with death: Golden Calf episode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf)

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Yeah yeah see you in hell then

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Quote from: mindrust on September 18, 2015, 03:36:21 AM

Interesting nobody asks the question "Why does religious dudes hating atheists?"

All of the religious books are full with hate againts atheists, yet still, atheists are blamed for hating. Sad

I don't hate atheists.

Were in the phrase "atheists need to die" you infer hate?

It's a theological conclusion based on the sin of idolatry (1st Commandement) and the Golden Calf episode (Ex 32:4).

Atheists do not believe in God so they put idols in the place of God: idolatry sin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Commandment)
Idolatry is punished with death: Golden Calf episode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf)

I'm not judging I'm going to a conclusion based on the law of the book.

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Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 17, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

But like my belief that there is a God who created us, I can not prove it to others.

I prove my belief in God by pointing to the evidence that refutes humanism (link); when others refuse to rationally evaluate it, I conclude that I have proven it to them. Thus far, nobody has engaged me in serious discussion of the evidence and/or the reasoning that strongly suggests (and in my opinion demonstrates) the proof of God, so I end up proving God every time!
Reason is the tool that humans use to prove a thing to another. On the other hand, Cognitive Dissonance is a tool used by the ignorant to maintain faith in their illusion of knowledge. Likewise, Scapegoating is a tool used by the wicked who want to hide the evidence of their own imperfection instead of acknowledging the need to grow (e.g. learn). You attack these authors, but your claims are made in ignorance (which books did you read??), and you will not use reason to explain your understanding. To me, it seems that you are just as ignorant as those who fail to read the evidence supporting life-after-death.

Quote from: MakingMoneyHoney on September 17, 2015, 08:19:36 PM

You won't see it. I know that.

Try me; I am reasonable. Perhaps when you have some spare "time"...

Quote from: http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j085/

Even the ones who CLAIM to hear regularly from God and speak FOR and in the NAME-OF this Christ and pronounce HIS edicts on your heads cannot abide the POSSIBILITY that God may well have sent MESSENGERS JUST AS PROMISED. Why do they object? Because they are going to find that "our presentation" is TRUTH and that means THEIRS IS NOT and IF YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THEM--THEY LOSE ALL POWER OVER YOUR BEINGS AND THIS IS NO SMALL LOSS TO "MAN"' ON YOUR PLANET GEARED TO "POWER" OF PHYSICAL EGO EXPRESSION. WE WANT NO CONTROL OVER ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY YOUR BEINGS. I simply ask you to take note at how many people pronounce edicts regarding our work and word and how many of YOU labor long and hard in trying to change perceptions--when the persons involved have not, nor have any intentions of so much as reading the work and word in point. I am continually amused at how many tell me to "go back to Christ!" How so--I TRAVEL WITH YOUR "CHRIST"!! AND, FURTHERMORE, IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ MY WRITINGS--IT CAN NOT BE REFUTED. So, WHO is the fool? Well, perhaps "me" for wasting your time with it for, after all, I have all the "time" in the Universe--and you are VERY LIMITED IN THAT COMMODITY. I would ask you, however, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING THAT TAKES SO MUCH "TIME"?

What's wrong with Americans and Authority?

Look at the Pope than you may speak: listen, learn, think and then speak if you can.

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The information that 1aguar provides is twisted because he gets it from demons.

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Interesting nobody asks the question "Why does religious dudes hating atheists?"

All of the religious books are full with hate againts atheists, yet still, atheists are blamed for hating. Sad

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:33:24 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 03:26:44 AM

You are wrong to say it's too late for him.

It's never too late.

Thank You.

There is even a place in Hebrews, in the New Testament, that says that if a person who is a believer falls away, it will be impossible for him to be brought back to faith again.

So you agree with me? Atheists need to die?

Thank You.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:31:26 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:02:34 AM

I don't know what atheists really think. But by their statements, they are essentially saying that they are God. Maybe they are a G-d, as well, whatever that is.

On the first place dont be so judgemental please, there is no such thing in the world that all atheist would agree on ,every guys has a different opinion..
I am an A too but I don't think I am God ..

god exists bl bla bla bla
2. There is a lot of evidence, and even scientific proof that God DOES exist.

god exists bl bla bla bla

Give me one scientific proof of that. Secondly how do you even know god speaks english so as to answer your prayers, now dont give me that shit about he can do anything bla bla bla

What does speaking English have to do with answering prayers? If God answers in Latin, or some Heavenly language, He still answers.

The three scientific laws, that when combined prove that God exists, are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Universal entropy;
3. Universal complexity (which may be an observation rather than a law).

Put them together, and you have no other understanding than that God exists.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12437583

Let me quote I robot here

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You can prove anything you want by coldly logical reason---if you pick the proper postulates

And try reading the book's "Cutie" chapter for knowing what I'm talking about.

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:31:26 AM

What does speaking English have to do with answering prayers? If God answers in Latin, or some Heavenly language, He still answers.

The three scientific laws, that when combined prove that God exists, are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Universal entropy;
3. Universal complexity (which may be an observation rather than a law).

Put them together, and you have no other understanding than that God exists.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12437583

You cannot prove with Science that God exist.

"The existence of God is a Faith problem".

Thank You.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 03:26:44 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:07:09 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

G-d is an English word indicating deity.

This word is derived first from Latin which, in its turn, derived from Greek as well. This word "God" was first invented in the greek version of the Bible "The Septuagint" from where the Latin and the English version are derived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

In the hebrew version of the Bible (Tanakh) the term G-d is translated with: Elohim, Adonai, El and YHWH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh

Every God's name has it own different meaning. As I think we have lost a lot by incorporating all his names in one word (God) I think it is better to use the word G-d when needed instead using the uncensored version God.

I understand, now, that for you this is not the God's name but you'll never know who will be reading your thoughts so it is better to use the censored version (G-d) to respect the reader.

Hope this is clear enough.

Thank You

Oops! Sorry. In all the writing about all the different kinds of stuff, I missed your explanation of what G-d means. Well, Since G-d means God, why not just say God like the rest of us? I mean, it is enough trouble trying to figure out what people are saying without adding something that we are not used to.

EDIT: I went to both of those Wikipedia sites, and I couldn't find the word G-d anywhere. Did I spell it wrong? I used the small hyphen. Was I supposed to use the large one?

I will try to explain again what I explained clearly above:
God is an English word indicating deity.

The names of God are YHWH, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Ja, Adonai, HaShem, Shalom...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism

I use God when referring to the only one.
I use G-d when the name is in there (YHWH, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Ja, Adonai, HaShem, Shalom...)

If I use the word G-d when referring to his name I avoid the sin in the 2nd Commandment ("Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain").

Hope this is clear enough.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 17, 2015, 11:43:37 PM

It's too late for him. Don't push God so far that He does the same to you.

You are wrong.

Thank You.

Beliathon actually said that he went to Hell and came back. Do you think he was lying?

You are wrong to say it's too late for him.

It's never too late.

Thank You.

There is even a place in Hebrews, in the New Testament, that says that if a person who is a believer falls away, it will be impossible for him to be brought back to faith again.

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Quote from: 21coin on September 18, 2015, 03:23:48 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:18:30 AM

Quote from: gampher on September 18, 2015, 03:09:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:02:34 AM

I don't know what atheists really think. But by their statements, they are essentially saying that they are God. Maybe they are a G-d, as well, whatever that is.

On the first place dont be so judgemental please, there is no such thing in the world that all atheist would agree on ,every guys has a different opinion..
I am an A too but I don't think I am God ..

god exists bl bla bla bla
2. There is a lot of evidence, and even scientific proof that God DOES exist.

god exists bl bla bla bla

Give me one scientific proof of that. Secondly how do you even know god speaks english so as to answer your prayers, now dont give me that shit about he can do anything bla bla bla

What does speaking English have to do with answering prayers? If God answers in Latin, or some Heavenly language, He still answers.

The three scientific laws, that when combined prove that God exists, are:
1. Cause and effect;
2. Universal entropy;
3. Universal complexity (which may be an observation rather than a law).

Put them together, and you have no other understanding than that God exists.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12437583

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:07:09 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

G-d is an English word indicating deity.

This word is derived first from Latin which, in its turn, derived from Greek as well. This word "God" was first invented in the greek version of the Bible "The Septuagint" from where the Latin and the English version are derived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

In the hebrew version of the Bible (Tanakh) the term G-d is translated with: Elohim, Adonai, El and YHWH.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh

Every God's name has it own different meaning. As I think we have lost a lot by incorporating all his names in one word (God) I think it is better to use the word G-d when needed instead using the uncensored version God.

I understand, now, that for you this is not the God's name but you'll never know who will be reading your thoughts so it is better to use the censored version (G-d) to respect the reader.

Hope this is clear enough.

Thank You

Oops! Sorry. In all the writing about all the different kinds of stuff, I missed your explanation of what G-d means. Well, Since G-d means God, why not just say God like the rest of us? I mean, it is enough trouble trying to figure out what people are saying without adding something that we are not used to.

EDIT: I went to both of those Wikipedia sites, and I couldn't find the word G-d anywhere. Did I spell it wrong? I used the small hyphen. Was I supposed to use the large one?

I will try to explain again what I explained clearly above:
God is an English word indicating deity.

The names of God are YHWH, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Ja, Adonai, HaShem, Shalom...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism

I use God when referring to the only one.
I use G-d when the name is in there (YHWH, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Ja, Adonai, HaShem, Shalom...)

If I use the word G-d when referring to his name I avoid the sin in the 2nd Commandment ("Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain").

Hope this is clear enough.

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:24:14 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 17, 2015, 11:43:37 PM

It's too late for him. Don't push God so far that He does the same to you.

You are wrong.

Thank You.

Beliathon actually said that he went to Hell and came back. Do you think he was lying?

You are wrong to say it's too late for him.

It's never too late.

Thank You.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 17, 2015, 11:43:37 PM

No, BADecker simply shows aspects of faith laws that most other people don't think of.

Be careful, popcorn1. Beliathon mocked God. Then he went to Hell and found out it wasn't so much fun. He came back and told us about it a little. Check his posts https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/beliathon-182576. He isn't happy.

The point? God is not mocked. His patience lasts only for a while. Beliathon is locked into his anti-God position, now. It's too late for him. Don't push God so far that He does the same to you.

You are wrong.

Thank You.

Beliathon actually said that he went to Hell and came back. Do you think he was lying?

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:18:30 AM

Quote from: gampher on September 18, 2015, 03:09:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:02:34 AM

I don't know what atheists really think. But by their statements, they are essentially saying that they are God. Maybe they are a G-d, as well, whatever that is.

On the first place dont be so judgemental please, there is no such thing in the world that all atheist would agree on ,every guys has a different opinion..
I am an A too but I don't think I am God ..

god exists bl bla bla bla
2. There is a lot of evidence, and even scientific proof that God DOES exist.

god exists bl bla bla bla

Give me one scientific proof of that. Secondly how do you even know god speaks english so as to answer your prayers, now dont give me that shit about he can do anything bla bla bla

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Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:21:10 AM

Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

Before discussing about Satana you should listen to the Pope before which is the vicary of Jesus Christ on Earth.

Thank You.

The Pope isn't the vicar of Jesus Christ on earth any more than any other learned or knowledgeable Christian is.

It's fine if you say that you have some doubts.

Thank You.

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Quote from: BitNow on September 18, 2015, 02:30:25 AM

Before discussing about Satana you should listen to the Pope before which is the vicary of Jesus Christ on Earth.

Thank You.

The Pope isn't the vicar of Jesus Christ on earth any more than any other learned or knowledgeable Christian is.

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Quote from: gampher on September 18, 2015, 03:09:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on September 18, 2015, 03:02:34 AM

I don't know what atheists really think. But by their statements, they are essentially saying that they are God. Maybe they are a G-d, as well, whatever that is.

On the first place dont be so judgemental please, there is no such thing in the world that all atheist would agree on ,every guys has a different opinion..
I am an A too but I don't think I am God ..

Of course, I expect that an atheist will not think he is God right out in the open. He probably hasn't though it out well enough. Here is what I mean.

Two major points about the existence of God.
1. Nobody knows that God doesn't exist.
2. There is a lot of evidence, and even scientific proof that God DOES exist.

If the atheist said, "I don't know for a fact that God doesn't exist, but I simply don't believe that He exists," then the atheist might not be setting himself up in a position of authority.

But if the atheist says, "I know for a fact that God doesn't exist (or some other, similar wording)," Then he is setting himself as the authority on the subject. The place of authority regarding God is one that is at least as great as God is, especially in the light of the fact that NOBODY knows that God DOESN'T exist.

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