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legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 04:18:17 PM

Why would anyone want to think these Bronze Age myths have any truth in them?  What are you talking about?
These stories are utter nonsense.

There is nothing to believe or not to believe.  These are stories written by some uneducated people who lived in very primitive societies.

Why don't you 'believe' in the Superman or Mr. Brownlow from Oliver Twist story?  WTF, are you mad?

I don't ask for much evidence.  Just one post by your God in this thread would do.

Ask your God to post my ATM card PIN number and my grandfather's concentration camp identification number.  LOL.

BADecker, talk to your God, post the two numbers or be quiet forever.

Bronze Age myths are Bronze Age myths. Bronze Age reality isn't myths.

Bible stories were written by very educated people. How can you tell? By the fact that they were able to write. Moses' writings were based on other writings that we don't have today. But the fact of these writings is found in the writings that have been discovered in Egypt. Consider the Nag Hammadi Library - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/nag_hammadi/contents.htm.

Our modern-day superheroes don't match the things of the universe. Their existence is the thing that is mythology.

Why would God post your ATM card along with your PIN? That would damge you because some unscroupulous characters might use them?

If you really want those numbers posted by God, talk to Him yourself. I don't control the way he posts. However, your card and PIN numbers might already be up for sale at some site in the Dark Web.

Get off your crazy kick, you knucklebrain.

Cool

Read, I asked for the ATM card PIN number.  Jesus Fucking Christ, learn how to read you little twit.

Let's go BADecker and your God, post my ATM card PIN number.

You don't even realize how stupid you and your God look now. 

He does not know my PIN number because he fucking does not exist.  He is an image, feelings in your brain, my ATM PIN number is only in my brain and there is no way you or any of the other 3000+ 'Gods' know my PIN number.


I don't understand. You asked for the ATM card and PIN number, didn't you? Well? Do you have them or not? Jesus allowed you to have them, right?

Since He allowed you to have them, He already knows the numbers, right? You don't really want Him to post your private numbers for all the world to see, do you? If you do, start praying to Him to post them. Here's what I mean.

God bases everything on faith... including salvation. If you have faith, you can move mountains. It was Eve's and Adam's failure in the faith area that prompted God to base everything on faith... just to show them that He is faithful. So, why is Jesus going to post your numbers when you don't have faith that He will, and when you don't even have faith that He exists? Besides, if you want your numbers posted, don't you have the ability to post them? Go ahead and post them. Or don't you have the strength to do it?

I know that you are having a bad day. Your days won't get any better until you acknowledge God.

Cool

Pay attention.  No wonder little details do not matter to you.

In any case, both you and your God failed the test.  No PIN number, no proof.

Good luck with your imaginary friends.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 04, 2019, 02:56:22 PM

Why would anyone want to think these Bronze Age myths have any truth in them?  What are you talking about?
These stories are utter nonsense.

There is nothing to believe or not to believe.  These are stories written by some uneducated people who lived in very primitive societies.

Why don't you 'believe' in the Superman or Mr. Brownlow from Oliver Twist story?  WTF, are you mad?

I don't ask for much evidence.  Just one post by your God in this thread would do.

Ask your God to post my ATM card PIN number and my grandfather's concentration camp identification number.  LOL.

BADecker, talk to your God, post the two numbers or be quiet forever.

Bronze Age myths are Bronze Age myths. Bronze Age reality isn't myths.

Bible stories were written by very educated people. How can you tell? By the fact that they were able to write. Moses' writings were based on other writings that we don't have today. But the fact of these writings is found in the writings that have been discovered in Egypt. Consider the Nag Hammadi Library - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/nag_hammadi/contents.htm.

Our modern-day superheroes don't match the things of the universe. Their existence is the thing that is mythology.

Why would God post your ATM card along with your PIN? That would damge you because some unscroupulous characters might use them?

If you really want those numbers posted by God, talk to Him yourself. I don't control the way he posts. However, your card and PIN numbers might already be up for sale at some site in the Dark Web.

Get off your crazy kick, you knucklebrain.

Cool

Read, I asked for the ATM card PIN number.  Jesus Fucking Christ, learn how to read you little twit.

Let's go BADecker and your God, post my ATM card PIN number.

You don't even realize how stupid you and your God look now. 

He does not know my PIN number because he fucking does not exist.  He is an image, feelings in your brain, my ATM PIN number is only in my brain and there is no way you or any of the other 3000+ 'Gods' know my PIN number.


I don't understand. You asked for the ATM card and PIN number, didn't you? Well? Do you have them or not? Jesus allowed you to have them, right?

Since He allowed you to have them, He already knows the numbers, right? You don't really want Him to post your private numbers for all the world to see, do you? If you do, start praying to Him to post them. Here's what I mean.

God bases everything on faith... including salvation. If you have faith, you can move mountains. It was Eve's and Adam's failure in the faith area that prompted God to base everything on faith... just to show them that He is faithful. So, why is Jesus going to post your numbers when you don't have faith that He will, and when you don't even have faith that He exists? Besides, if you want your numbers posted, don't you have the ability to post them? Go ahead and post them. Or don't you have the strength to do it?

I know that you are having a bad day. Your days won't get any better until you acknowledge God.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 02:16:16 PM

Why would anyone want to think these Bronze Age myths have any truth in them?  What are you talking about?
These stories are utter nonsense.

There is nothing to believe or not to believe.  These are stories written by some uneducated people who lived in very primitive societies.

Why don't you 'believe' in the Superman or Mr. Brownlow from Oliver Twist story?  WTF, are you mad?

I don't ask for much evidence.  Just one post by your God in this thread would do.

Ask your God to post my ATM card PIN number and my grandfather's concentration camp identification number.  LOL.

BADecker, talk to your God, post the two numbers or be quiet forever.

Bronze Age myths are Bronze Age myths. Bronze Age reality isn't myths.

Bible stories were written by very educated people. How can you tell? By the fact that they were able to write. Moses' writings were based on other writings that we don't have today. But the fact of these writings is found in the writings that have been discovered in Egypt. Consider the Nag Hammadi Library - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/nag_hammadi/contents.htm.

Our modern-day superheroes don't match the things of the universe. Their existence is the thing that is mythology.

Why would God post your ATM card along with your PIN? That would damge you because some unscroupulous characters might use them?

If you really want those numbers posted by God, talk to Him yourself. I don't control the way he posts. However, your card and PIN numbers might already be up for sale at some site in the Dark Web.

Get off your crazy kick, you knucklebrain.

Cool

Read, I asked for the ATM card PIN number.  Jesus Fucking Christ, learn how to read you little twit.

Let's go BADecker and your God, post my ATM card PIN number.

You don't even realize how stupid you and your God look now. 

He does not know my PIN number because he fucking does not exist.  He is an image, feelings in your brain, my ATM PIN number is only in my brain and there is no way you or any of the other 3000+ 'Gods' know my PIN number.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 04, 2019, 01:25:13 PM

Why would anyone want to think these Bronze Age myths have any truth in them?  What are you talking about?
These stories are utter nonsense.

There is nothing to believe or not to believe.  These are stories written by some uneducated people who lived in very primitive societies.

Why don't you 'believe' in the Superman or Mr. Brownlow from Oliver Twist story?  WTF, are you mad?

I don't ask for much evidence.  Just one post by your God in this thread would do.

Ask your God to post my ATM card PIN number and my grandfather's concentration camp identification number.  LOL.

BADecker, talk to your God, post the two numbers or be quiet forever.

Bronze Age myths are Bronze Age myths. Bronze Age reality isn't myths.

Bible stories were written by very educated people. How can you tell? By the fact that they were able to write. Moses' writings were based on other writings that we don't have today. But the fact of these writings is found in the writings that have been discovered in Egypt. Consider the Nag Hammadi Library - https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/nag_hammadi/contents.htm.

Our modern-day superheroes don't match the things of the universe. Their existence is the thing that is mythology.

Why would God post your ATM card along with your PIN? That would damge you because some unscroupulous characters might use them?

If you really want those numbers posted by God, talk to Him yourself. I don't control the way he posts. However, your card and PIN numbers might already be up for sale at some site in the Dark Web.

Get off your crazy kick, you knucklebrain.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 12:44:18 PM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool

You should compare your notes with notbatman.  You guys have more in common than you are willing to admit.

An electric universe, ROFL.

I wonder what it is in one's brain that makes him/her susceptible to these crackpot theories: flat Earth, electric universe, Jesus zombie myth, invisible/undetectable God(s), souls, ghosts, zombies, heaven, hell, demons, etc.  The list is endless.

In the same way you are susceptible to crackpot theories that are being proven wrong. You are attempting to maintain wrong science theories... why? Are you so afraid of the truth that you are willing to remain wrong? Will it take away from your income if you turn to what is right?

Regarding God, change before it's too late for you and you destroy yourself.

Cool

Change what?  What are you talking about?

I am not a fiction writer or a con man to invent a new God story.

I don't think we need more God stories.  We have over 3000+ God myths.  They don't need changing.  They speak for themselves.

We have enough God stories to save those who believe God's Word. We don't need any more. More might even prove to dilute the things that God talks about in the God stories. It's time for atheists to turn and believe God, before they destroy themselves by their unbelief.

Cool

Why would anyone want to think these Bronze Age myths have any truth in them?  What are you talking about?
These stories are utter nonsense.

There is nothing to believe or not to believe.  These are stories written by some uneducated people who lived in very primitive societies.

Why don't you 'believe' in the Superman or Mr. Brownlow from Oliver Twist story?  WTF, are you mad?

I don't ask for much evidence.  Just one post by your God in this thread would do.

Ask your God to post my ATM card PIN number and my grandfather's concentration camp identification number.  LOL.

BADecker, talk to your God, post the two numbers or be quiet forever.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 04, 2019, 12:24:53 PM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool

You should compare your notes with notbatman.  You guys have more in common than you are willing to admit.

An electric universe, ROFL.

I wonder what it is in one's brain that makes him/her susceptible to these crackpot theories: flat Earth, electric universe, Jesus zombie myth, invisible/undetectable God(s), souls, ghosts, zombies, heaven, hell, demons, etc.  The list is endless.

In the same way you are susceptible to crackpot theories that are being proven wrong. You are attempting to maintain wrong science theories... why? Are you so afraid of the truth that you are willing to remain wrong? Will it take away from your income if you turn to what is right?

Regarding God, change before it's too late for you and you destroy yourself.

Cool

Change what?  What are you talking about?

I am not a fiction writer or a con man to invent a new God story.

I don't think we need more God stories.  We have over 3000+ God myths.  They don't need changing.  They speak for themselves.

We have enough God stories to save those who believe God's Word. We don't need any more. More might even prove to dilute the things that God talks about in the God stories. It's time for atheists to turn and believe God, before they destroy themselves by their unbelief.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 12:20:57 PM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool

You should compare your notes with notbatman.  You guys have more in common than you are willing to admit.

An electric universe, ROFL.

I wonder what it is in one's brain that makes him/her susceptible to these crackpot theories: flat Earth, electric universe, Jesus zombie myth, invisible/undetectable God(s), souls, ghosts, zombies, heaven, hell, demons, etc.  The list is endless.

In the same way you are susceptible to crackpot theories that are being proven wrong. You are attempting to maintain wrong science theories... why? Are you so afraid of the truth that you are willing to remain wrong? Will it take away from your income if you turn to what is right?

Regarding God, change before it's too late for you and you destroy yourself.

Cool

Change what?  What are you talking about?

I am not a fiction writer or a con man to invent a new God story.

I don't think we need more God stories.  We have over 3000+ God myths.  They don't need changing.  They speak for themselves.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 04, 2019, 11:34:56 AM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool

You should compare your notes with notbatman.  You guys have more in common than you are willing to admit.

An electric universe, ROFL.

I wonder what it is in one's brain that makes him/her susceptible to these crackpot theories: flat Earth, electric universe, Jesus zombie myth, invisible/undetectable God(s), souls, ghosts, zombies, heaven, hell, demons, etc.  The list is endless.

In the same way you are susceptible to crackpot theories that are being proven wrong. You are attempting to maintain wrong science theories... why? Are you so afraid of the truth that you are willing to remain wrong? Will it take away from your income if you turn to what is right?

Regarding God, change before it's too late for you and you destroy yourself.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 11:05:46 AM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool

You should compare your notes with notbatman.  You guys have more in common than you are willing to admit.

An electric universe, ROFL.

I wonder what it is in one's brain that makes him/her susceptible to these crackpot theories: flat Earth, electric universe, Jesus zombie myth, invisible/undetectable God(s), souls, ghosts, zombies, heaven, hell, demons, etc.  The list is endless.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 04, 2019, 10:25:19 AM

Observable redshift.

Redshift is a misinterpretation of electric plasma activity. Search on "electric cosmos" or "electric universe." There you will find theory that fits universe operations way better than the current usage of Relativity Theory.

What does this mean? It means that scientists would rather continue with the status quo than adopt the truth. However, that is the way that people act in general, isn't it? Even scientists with their pet theories, right?

This should cause you to at least question your atheistic views.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 04, 2019, 06:43:29 AM

Notice how all your stuff in you links is written. Much of it is in books. So, the question has to do with which of it is true and which of it is false.

If you don't realize that everything that exists is the effect of one or more causes, you are scientifically quite naive. Show me something that exists without one or more causes making it to exist the way it does. And then show me how those causes are not the effects of other causes.

Even the idea that radioactive half-life exists without cause is wrong. Its cause is simply in a different level than what is usually understood to fit into the idea of cause and effect. The only reason it is interpreted as not having a cause, is that scientists are desperately trying to find something that doesn't have a cause, just so they can suggest that intelligent design might not exist after all.

Cool

That is why science has a self-regulating mechanism to filter out the falsehoods.  It is a peer review, evidence-based process.
It is a work in progress.  New scientific discoveries are made as I type this post.

Unlike the Bible.  You know, human living for 3 days in the stomach of a huge fish and surviving, 6 days universe creation story, talking snake, humans created from dirt generating genetic variance we see today in a mere 6000 years, from one Middle-Eastern couple. LOL.  Not to mention the global flood and Noah's story.  Too far fetched to be included in children's fairy tales.

You are confused, uneducated man.  I see no point of discussing this further.  We are worlds apart.  

The so-called mechanism for filtering out falsehood, only proves to solidify falsehood if the peer reviews agree with something that is wrong. Being popular, or being proclaimed loudly, or being attested to isn't the thing that makes things to be the truth. Only if they ARE the truth, are they the truth.

If you have stories that contradict the Bible stories you mention, it is you who have the fairy tales. Just because your stories are things that are the standard accepted by some people, doesn't make them true. You need more. The fact that there are loads of people who accept Bible stories as true, makes them just as true as your fictional stories. Bible people need more, as well.

We ARE worlds apart. You would like to accept science that makes sense along with other science that doesn't make sense. Because of this you come up with a muddled view that you don't even realize is muddled.

I accept the Bible stories for a couple of reasons. Science shows that they are true. And the Holy Spirit acknowledges them within me.

Btw, you haven't shown me something that factually exists without a cause. Can't answer, so you ignore the point.

Cool

Our universe started without a cause.  Space-time was created without a cause.  There was no time for any possible cause to exist in, there was no time, i.e. no cause or effect before t=0.

Cause and effects only exist if you can establish the time interval where they exist.

Good night little buddy.  Sleep tight.

You just know this how? Certainly not from understanding science. The science of cause and effect alone shows that the universe was programmed. The machine nature of the universe shows that the Programmer was highly intelligent. Don't just pick and choose the science you like. Rather, look at all of it.

Cool

Observable redshift.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 03, 2019, 08:55:07 PM

Notice how all your stuff in you links is written. Much of it is in books. So, the question has to do with which of it is true and which of it is false.

If you don't realize that everything that exists is the effect of one or more causes, you are scientifically quite naive. Show me something that exists without one or more causes making it to exist the way it does. And then show me how those causes are not the effects of other causes.

Even the idea that radioactive half-life exists without cause is wrong. Its cause is simply in a different level than what is usually understood to fit into the idea of cause and effect. The only reason it is interpreted as not having a cause, is that scientists are desperately trying to find something that doesn't have a cause, just so they can suggest that intelligent design might not exist after all.

Cool

That is why science has a self-regulating mechanism to filter out the falsehoods.  It is a peer review, evidence-based process.
It is a work in progress.  New scientific discoveries are made as I type this post.

Unlike the Bible.  You know, human living for 3 days in the stomach of a huge fish and surviving, 6 days universe creation story, talking snake, humans created from dirt generating genetic variance we see today in a mere 6000 years, from one Middle-Eastern couple. LOL.  Not to mention the global flood and Noah's story.  Too far fetched to be included in children's fairy tales.

You are confused, uneducated man.  I see no point of discussing this further.  We are worlds apart.  

The so-called mechanism for filtering out falsehood, only proves to solidify falsehood if the peer reviews agree with something that is wrong. Being popular, or being proclaimed loudly, or being attested to isn't the thing that makes things to be the truth. Only if they ARE the truth, are they the truth.

If you have stories that contradict the Bible stories you mention, it is you who have the fairy tales. Just because your stories are things that are the standard accepted by some people, doesn't make them true. You need more. The fact that there are loads of people who accept Bible stories as true, makes them just as true as your fictional stories. Bible people need more, as well.

We ARE worlds apart. You would like to accept science that makes sense along with other science that doesn't make sense. Because of this you come up with a muddled view that you don't even realize is muddled.

I accept the Bible stories for a couple of reasons. Science shows that they are true. And the Holy Spirit acknowledges them within me.

Btw, you haven't shown me something that factually exists without a cause. Can't answer, so you ignore the point.

Cool

Our universe started without a cause.  Space-time was created without a cause.  There was no time for any possible cause to exist in, there was no time, i.e. no cause or effect before t=0.

Cause and effects only exist if you can establish the time interval where they exist.

Good night little buddy.  Sleep tight.

You just know this how? Certainly not from understanding science. The science of cause and effect alone shows that the universe was programmed. The machine nature of the universe shows that the Programmer was highly intelligent. Don't just pick and choose the science you like. Rather, look at all of it.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
April 03, 2019, 07:01:27 PM

Notice how all your stuff in you links is written. Much of it is in books. So, the question has to do with which of it is true and which of it is false.

If you don't realize that everything that exists is the effect of one or more causes, you are scientifically quite naive. Show me something that exists without one or more causes making it to exist the way it does. And then show me how those causes are not the effects of other causes.

Even the idea that radioactive half-life exists without cause is wrong. Its cause is simply in a different level than what is usually understood to fit into the idea of cause and effect. The only reason it is interpreted as not having a cause, is that scientists are desperately trying to find something that doesn't have a cause, just so they can suggest that intelligent design might not exist after all.

Cool

That is why science has a self-regulating mechanism to filter out the falsehoods.  It is a peer review, evidence-based process.
It is a work in progress.  New scientific discoveries are made as I type this post.

Unlike the Bible.  You know, human living for 3 days in the stomach of a huge fish and surviving, 6 days universe creation story, talking snake, humans created from dirt generating genetic variance we see today in a mere 6000 years, from one Middle-Eastern couple. LOL.  Not to mention the global flood and Noah's story.  Too far fetched to be included in children's fairy tales.

You are confused, uneducated man.  I see no point of discussing this further.  We are worlds apart.  

The so-called mechanism for filtering out falsehood, only proves to solidify falsehood if the peer reviews agree with something that is wrong. Being popular, or being proclaimed loudly, or being attested to isn't the thing that makes things to be the truth. Only if they ARE the truth, are they the truth.

If you have stories that contradict the Bible stories you mention, it is you who have the fairy tales. Just because your stories are things that are the standard accepted by some people, doesn't make them true. You need more. The fact that there are loads of people who accept Bible stories as true, makes them just as true as your fictional stories. Bible people need more, as well.

We ARE worlds apart. You would like to accept science that makes sense along with other science that doesn't make sense. Because of this you come up with a muddled view that you don't even realize is muddled.

I accept the Bible stories for a couple of reasons. Science shows that they are true. And the Holy Spirit acknowledges them within me.

Btw, you haven't shown me something that factually exists without a cause. Can't answer, so you ignore the point.

Cool

Our universe started without a cause.  Space-time was created without a cause.  There was no time for any possible cause to exist in, there was no time, i.e. no cause or effect before t=0.

Cause and effects only exist if you can establish the time interval where they exist.

Good night little buddy.  Sleep tight.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 03, 2019, 03:45:52 PM

Notice how all your stuff in you links is written. Much of it is in books. So, the question has to do with which of it is true and which of it is false.

If you don't realize that everything that exists is the effect of one or more causes, you are scientifically quite naive. Show me something that exists without one or more causes making it to exist the way it does. And then show me how those causes are not the effects of other causes.

Even the idea that radioactive half-life exists without cause is wrong. Its cause is simply in a different level than what is usually understood to fit into the idea of cause and effect. The only reason it is interpreted as not having a cause, is that scientists are desperately trying to find something that doesn't have a cause, just so they can suggest that intelligent design might not exist after all.

Cool

That is why science has a self-regulating mechanism to filter out the falsehoods.  It is a peer review, evidence-based process.
It is a work in progress.  New scientific discoveries are made as I type this post.

Unlike the Bible.  You know, human living for 3 days in the stomach of a huge fish and surviving, 6 days universe creation story, talking snake, humans created from dirt generating genetic variance we see today in a mere 6000 years, from one Middle-Eastern couple. LOL.  Not to mention the global flood and Noah's story.  Too far fetched to be included in children's fairy tales.

You are confused, uneducated man.  I see no point of discussing this further.  We are worlds apart.  

The so-called mechanism for filtering out falsehood, only proves to solidify falsehood if the peer reviews agree with something that is wrong. Being popular, or being proclaimed loudly, or being attested to isn't the thing that makes things to be the truth. Only if they ARE the truth, are they the truth.

If you have stories that contradict the Bible stories you mention, it is you who have the fairy tales. Just because your stories are things that are the standard accepted by some people, doesn't make them true. You need more. The fact that there are loads of people who accept Bible stories as true, makes them just as true as your fictional stories. Bible people need more, as well.

We ARE worlds apart. You would like to accept science that makes sense along with other science that doesn't make sense. Because of this you come up with a muddled view that you don't even realize is muddled.

I accept the Bible stories for a couple of reasons. Science shows that they are true. And the Holy Spirit acknowledges them within me.

Btw, you haven't shown me something that factually exists without a cause. Can't answer, so you ignore the point.

Cool
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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April 03, 2019, 06:24:57 AM
..Even though it is not design in itself, it has been designed. ...

Because you wish it was?

Have you heard of confirmation bias?

You see the design because you want to have the universe designed by your (version) of your God.

BTW, mammals would never have evolved if it was not for a big asteroid wiping out 90% of life on Earth.

We would not be here if it was not for the accidents in our past.

Accidents continue, so stay tuned.
legendary
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April 02, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
Design has a purpose and function.    

What is the purpose of the continued creation of spacetime?

If you say it is us here on Earth, we are done.

Ahm, I personally do not know the exact reason why it keeps on evolving as you have said the universe is too wide and as of the current technology that we have it is almost impossible to explain the unknown phenomenon. Wait then how can that be reason to consider that there is no any singular self-subsequent substance("GOD" not the personal God from religions) ?

So stop talking about the design of the universe.

Why? ...
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To identify design you need to identify the purpose and the function first.  If you don't know what they are, the talk about the design is pointless. Out of your ass assertion, not much else.

Complexity is not design.  Entropy here on Earth is decreasing, BTW.  Thanks to the energy input from the Sun.

The universe is a violent, cruel place, Earth and everything on it might be wiped out by some random asteroid at any time.  Galaxies are colliding, wiping star systems in the process, as I type this post.  Chaos and destruction are unimaginable.

If you see design in it, you do not understand much.


It's a shame that nobody told you about pleasure, and that you indulge in pain, simply because you haven't been able to figure out that the purpose of life is to enjoy pleasure and avoid pain. It was out of your hands for your life to exist. You didn't really have any choice in the matter. But now that it does exist, seek the pleasure, and avoid the pain, by turning to God. There's your purpose.

Complexity doesn't happen by accident. Even though it is not design in itself, it has been designed. Some areas of entropy increase, while others wane. But overall, entropy is increasing, even if the rate of the increase is decreasing.

You really need to take a vacation to Bora Bora, or Tahiti in general. If you choose the enjoyment of those places rather than looking for some pain therein, you will find just how cruel the universe isn't. The fact that you aren't out there in the midst of the colliding galaxies shows that you are being spared from that pain. Btw, we don't know that galaxies are colliding. We are only trusting some light and electromagnetics that we see coming in.

All the atoms of everything operate according to physics laws. Even the raging tidal wave acts according to precise laws of physics. If you don't see design in all that exists, you are really not looking... or thinking.

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