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Quote from: af_newbie on October 04, 2019, 08:14:34 AM

Bitcoin is different from God. I see the benefits of Bitcoin because I understand it (as I did in 2011, LOL).

Nobody can even define what God is.

Start with that.

PS. Just because you are ignorant of science, it is not an excuse to invent answers to your questions.

Thank you for defining God for us. As you defined, God is an Entity Who is so great that He is undefinable.

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Quote from: Renampun on October 03, 2019, 03:58:10 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 02, 2019, 01:03:30 PM

Quote from: Renampun on October 02, 2019, 06:21:02 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 30, 2019, 05:27:47 AM

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I am an atheist because I cannot "feel" God. People who talk about their feelings as though it is the "truth" don't impress me much.

Most are delusional sheep who follow the culturally-driven customes and traditions that were nailed into their brains since childhood.

Religious people lack critical thinking skills. You don't believe me? Ask them the why questions.

"Faith is a form of trust & recognition for the unseen"
how you can "feel" God without accepting it, you can feel the benefits of the cryptocurrency because you accept and believe it,
I can't explain the presence of God in detail but I always feel his presence when I'm having a hard time,
I respect if you think it's a doctrine that was planted since childhood,
but humans did not create themselves (through the merging of cells for millions of years).

Bitcoin is different from God. I see the benefits of Bitcoin because I understand it (as I did in 2011, LOL).

Nobody can even define what God is.

Start with that.

PS. Just because you are ignorant of science, it is not an excuse to invent answers to your questions.

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Quote from: af_newbie on October 02, 2019, 01:03:30 PM

Quote from: Renampun on October 02, 2019, 06:21:02 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 30, 2019, 05:27:47 AM

snip~

I am an atheist because I cannot "feel" God. People who talk about their feelings as though it is the "truth" don't impress me much.

Most are delusional sheep who follow the culturally-driven customes and traditions that were nailed into their brains since childhood.

Religious people lack critical thinking skills. You don't believe me? Ask them the why questions.

"Faith is a form of trust & recognition for the unseen"
how you can "feel" God without accepting it, you can feel the benefits of the cryptocurrency because you accept and believe it,
I can't explain the presence of God in detail but I always feel his presence when I'm having a hard time,
I respect if you think it's a doctrine that was planted since childhood,
but humans did not create themselves (through the merging of cells for millions of years).

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Quote from: Trading on April 03, 2016, 11:54:30 AM

"...1) God is a human creation..."

...TL;DR

We live on an artificially lit plain under a composite steel dome, its scale and size can only be explained by giants as gods. Your wall of text is both heretical and un-scientific, your work is of the Devil.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on September 30, 2019, 05:27:47 AM

For me the question "Does God exist?" is not the important one. We can't prove it either way, and so we'll never settle any arguments or change any opinions based on answers to this question.

I think the more pertinent question is: "If we assume that God exists, then should (s)he be worshipped?"

I am an atheist, but even if it could be proven that God exists, I would still argue that they shouldn't be worshipped. Why? Because to do so is to deny our own freedom and our own responsibility for our own actions. If every murderer could say 'God designed me to be a murderer,' then no-one has any accountability. It is like being a child. Everything is always someone else's fault. But if instead we say 'I am an individual with free will, every action I take or do not take is a result of my own decisions,' then I just think that is a better and more honest way to live.

You don't need proof to believe the existence of God, you just need to believe. We can't see the air we breath in but yet still we believe that what we breathing is air. If you don't believe in the existence of God, keep it to yourself. Don't try to rationalize things based on nature of things people do. When you die, thus when you will know whether God exist or not...

BADecker

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Almost all the atheists who are serious about their atheism, have chosen to make themselves into gods. After all, just because a person doesn't see God somewhere he looked, doesn't mean that God doesn't exist somewhere he hasn't looked. This means that God could be somewhere in almost all of the universe, and in loads of different places right on Earth that people haven't checked out yet.

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Religion was meant to explain the world & universe to as much people as possible. Everything unexplainable got replaced by 'god'.

So actually, being religious is totally outdated. Wink

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Quote from: Renampun on October 02, 2019, 06:21:02 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on September 30, 2019, 05:27:47 AM

For me the question "Does God exist?" is not the important one. We can't prove it either way, and so we'll never settle any arguments or change any opinions based on answers to this question.

I think the more pertinent question is: "If we assume that God exists, then should (s)he be worshipped?"

I respect every opinion they think about the existence of God,
but there is one thing we must know about the existence of God,
"God is in our hearts, its existence is like the wind, it cannot be seen but can be felt"
there are people who believe in cryptocurrencies, but there are also those who refuse to believe,
the choice is in us. slowly, sooner or later surely your heart and mind will accept God.

I am an atheist because I cannot "feel" God. People who talk about their feelings as though it is the "truth" don't impress me much.

Most are delusional sheep who follow the culturally-driven customes and traditions that were nailed into their brains since childhood.

Religious people lack critical thinking skills. You don't believe me? Ask them the why questions.

"Why do you believe in XXX?" (XXX could be Jesus or Allah)
"Why don't you believe in YYY?" (YYY could be Zeus)
"Why do you believe that ZZZ book is the word of God but not the UUU book?"
"Why do you believe that fictional characters (Jesus or Moses) were real?"

Depending on their answer you can further question them about their "beliefs". What will happen that in the end (if they remain honest about it) is that they will tell you that they have no actual, factual reason to believe in the supernatural claims, but they will still continue their beliefs because it makes them feel good, or that it is to better their communities, make friends in church, sing songs, have a place where they feel they belong, etc. LOL.

The reason is not their friend.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on September 30, 2019, 05:27:47 AM

For me the question "Does God exist?" is not the important one. We can't prove it either way, and so we'll never settle any arguments or change any opinions based on answers to this question.

I think the more pertinent question is: "If we assume that God exists, then should (s)he be worshipped?"

I respect every opinion they think about the existence of God,
but there is one thing we must know about the existence of God,
"God is in our hearts, its existence is like the wind, it cannot be seen but can be felt"
there are people who believe in cryptocurrencies, but there are also those who refuse to believe,
the choice is in us. slowly, sooner or later surely your heart and mind will accept God.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on September 30, 2019, 01:53:28 PM

i am a non-believer then an atheist and i will remain so at least until i see a miracle with my eyes, mens,mankind have done over the course of millennia horrible atrocities in the name of faith/religion
like burning witches, crusades, torture, the bible is full of parables, teachings of dubious interpretation, to finish someone can dispute with tangible evidence that it was not the aliens millions of years ago to put living cells in water on earth (create life)? ...

Here's you miracle... blade of grass.

Nobody can make one, but countless trillions of them grow automatically.

We can automate machinery to make many things, but we can't make one to duplicate itself from scratch without being fed the raw materials.

But the second biggest miracle - way bigger than a blade of grass - is that some people can't see all the miracles around them in nature.

Maybe I'll tell you about the biggest miracle, sometime.

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i am a non-believer then an atheist and i will remain so at least until i see a miracle with my eyes, mens,mankind have done over the course of millennia horrible atrocities in the name of faith/religion
like burning witches, crusades, torture, the bible is full of parables, teachings of dubious interpretation, to finish someone can dispute with tangible evidence that it was not the aliens millions of years ago to put living cells in water on earth (create life)? ...

BADecker

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^^^ God is proven to exist simply because the marvels and wonders of nature exist. We of all people should be able to see God in nature. And actually we do.

The complexities of nature are shown to not exist when we simply toss a handful of sand into the air. We can't make the complexities happen. Yet they DO exist in the ways the sand falls to the ground, and in the patterns that come about in the fall. But we didn't originate the complex patterns. We just acted and they happened.

In our machinery that we make, the more the complexity, the more the thought that had to go into them to make them complex. Yet we are barely starting to understand the complexity of the whole universe.

If you want to call nature God, then at least you have recognized that nature is way mor complex in itself than we are.

God exists. Nature shows it. And one of the greatest points that shows God is that we are complex enough, and strong enough, within ourselves, that we can deny God in the face of all the complexity in nature that shows that He exists.

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For me the question "Does God exist?" is not the important one. We can't prove it either way, and so we'll never settle any arguments or change any opinions based on answers to this question.

I think the more pertinent question is: "If we assume that God exists, then should (s)he be worshipped?"

I am an atheist, but even if it could be proven that God exists, I would still argue that they shouldn't be worshipped. Why? Because to do so is to deny our own freedom and our own responsibility for our own actions. If every murderer could say 'God designed me to be a murderer,' then no-one has any accountability. It is like being a child. Everything is always someone else's fault. But if instead we say 'I am an individual with free will, every action I take or do not take is a result of my own decisions,' then I just think that is a better and more honest way to live.

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I wholeheartedly agree with your take. I cannot call myself a hardcore christian but I do occasionally pay my respects when at a church or saying a prayer. It of course could be written off as me being influenced during my upbringing but I have found these small acts to provide me with some form of safety, like it's a part of me. I do not see the need to distance myself from the idea of belief completely, since the best course of action is simply to not expect anything, but rather see for myself. But I do believe that many of the teachings of many religions across the world are flawed and barbaric by today's standard of society. That is to say that although there have been some really bad, entitled and egocentric apples I have met some incredible people through my life such as priests that are hard working and kind people. In the end, religion should not decide ones life and more importantly it should not decide others opinions towards that person. I personally treat it as another attribute of someone who is ultimately just another human being like me, and I treat his beliefs and his religion with respect, since berating them and downgrading their beliefs won't bring about anything.

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1043-4
An all powerful and omniscient god, who enforces a moral code and is aware of all sins, only was invented when the first urban societies were created.

Only on these societies someone could act in violation of social rules with some chance of avoiding punishment. On a small clan community this is much harder to happen.

Hence, a god with functions of moral/religious enforcer only was invented when social needs made this necessary.

This can explain the enduring animist religions who ruled for millennia and their overcome by gods with moral functions and omniscient and omnipotent qualities after the formation and development of urban societies.

The first god with moral functions seems to be Maat, daughter of the god Ra, about 5000 years ago, on Egypt.

As the State became more powerful (and modern surveillance techniques are increasing their role: China is the best example), the need for a divine enforcer of social rules disappeared. This can also explain religious tolerance from the authorities.

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Humans evolved religion as a trait for a reason.

Because it helped us survive.

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Quote from: Vod on April 05, 2019, 02:12:30 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on April 04, 2019, 08:17:17 PM

PS. God is doing shit. Hey God, you little fuck, get in here and post my PIN number.

I killed badecker's god years ago. I am the real Vod.

Your PIN is (obviously) 6969.

LOL.

You have entered an incorrect pin number. Please try again ...

Does any other God, Fod, Tod, Yod, Hod, or Bod want to try?

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Quote from: af_newbie on April 04, 2019, 08:17:17 PM

PS. God is doing shit. Hey God, you little fuck, get in here and post my PIN number.

I killed badecker's god years ago. I am the real Vod.

Your PIN is (obviously) 6969.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 04, 2019, 06:46:54 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on April 04, 2019, 04:18:17 PM

Pay attention. No wonder little details do not matter to you.

In any case, both you and your God failed the test. No PIN number, no proof.

Good luck with your imaginary friends.

You just don't get it, do you. No PIN, absolute proof. Why? Because the things that you do and that are under your control, God is doing through you. You verbally ask for the PIN, but you don't put the PIN up. So, you lie, but God tells the truth by not putting the PIN up.

Do you want God to put the PIN up? Then [put the PIN up, and it will be God working through you to put the PIN up.

If you continue long enough in your refusal to accept God and His salvation, you will be using God's power to say "NO" to yourself. That NO is an eternal one. Please don't go there. It means that I will have failed regarding you and salvation. And I feel so bad when I fail at something.

Are you laughing, yet? Go ahead and laugh at me, now. Only repent and believe, so that you will have the ability to laugh in joy throughout eternity?

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You are a special boy, aren't you?

Take your meds 1 hour before you post. Your replies are progressively less coherent.

PS. God is doing shit. Hey God, you little fuck, get in here and post my PIN number.

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Quote from: af_newbie on April 04, 2019, 04:18:17 PM

Pay attention. No wonder little details do not matter to you.

In any case, both you and your God failed the test. No PIN number, no proof.

Good luck with your imaginary friends.

You just don't get it, do you. No PIN, absolute proof. Why? Because the things that you do and that are under your control, God is doing through you. You verbally ask for the PIN, but you don't put the PIN up. So, you lie, but God tells the truth by not putting the PIN up.

Do you want God to put the PIN up? Then [put the PIN up, and it will be God working through you to put the PIN up.

If you continue long enough in your refusal to accept God and His salvation, you will be using God's power to say "NO" to yourself. That NO is an eternal one. Please don't go there. It means that I will have failed regarding you and salvation. And I feel so bad when I fail at something.

Are you laughing, yet? Go ahead and laugh at me, now. Only repent and believe, so that you will have the ability to laugh in joy throughout eternity?

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