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Topic: Will China go to war with Japan? - page 10. (Read 10145 times)

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November 30, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
#30
I'm quite sure that they won't
newbie
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November 30, 2013, 08:23:22 AM
#29
China benefits too much from trade to go to war...

Exactly. Most countries these days do. Doesn't mean wars are impossible, of course, but there are huge economic incentives working against it that are much bigger than they were 50-100 years ago. That's why we had two world wars within 30 years but then not any more in the last 70+.

People tend to overestimate the importance of daily news reports about conflicts. The Japan-China dispute was making headlines earlier this year and people thought war was imminent and then it faded completely from most people's memories until it came back just now. Doesn't mean war is impossible, just a lot less likely than a lot of people tend to think.
legendary
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November 30, 2013, 05:06:38 AM
#28
Aaaa was involved in 70+ wars(the way of...oops they see it) in the last 70 years, so nothing new.
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November 29, 2013, 01:45:07 PM
#27
If you think that no country is interested in going to war...

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the UNITED STATES OF Aaaa...



USA may want to go to war. But not with China.
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Free World
November 29, 2013, 01:39:44 PM
#26
If you think that no country is interested in going to war...

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE the UNITED STATES OF Aaaa...

legendary
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November 29, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
#25
Another possibility is that the Chinese and Japanese are engaging in some clever collaboration.

They both know that divisions can be exploited by Western powers to try and exert influence in the region. Why not hand out a dispute on a silver platter, and make it the most dramatic issue that can give lots of pictures of warships and fighter jets to fill up newpapers and TV screens? If the Chinese and Japanese have agreed to stage this (and never create any real tension or conflict from it), it could make any dispute that Western powers might like to encourage look like a minor issue.

Mt Gox is a big middle finger to the US, a big exploitation of the global banking industry connections that Japan has been building up over the decades (16 currencies, count 'em). The promotion of BTC in China is also a humungous middle finger to the US. Bank of Japan are undertaking massive currency printing, with no date set as to when it finishes. A little known fact that has recently come to light is that Central Bank of China has printed more USD equivalent of yuan in the last 5 years than the Federal Reserve has, by about 7 times.

It seems that China and Japan are pretty well agreed on some policy areas, despite video footage of military warships, or tales of fighter jets shadowing defiant commercial airliners.

Does anyone know that those pictures of Chinese warships were actually taken in the past few weeks? It's just video of ships and aircraft carriers. Do we know the stories are for real? I would suggest that very few people are at all well placed to know these things for a fact. They're just stories until something a bit more concrete takes place.
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November 29, 2013, 07:56:34 AM
#24
No

Firstly, China is a civilization state - they've been fighting off the barbarians for thousands of years so the US doesn't bother them.  China's biggest threat is internal instability, so war isnt a good idea. 
It would damage their uber neo liberal capitalist system which is doing really well for them at the moment.
They are asserting regional control.  Neither country could overwhelm the other without great personal cost. 
Cyber war will be China's preferred battleground.
Japan needs to sort alot of things out before they could even consider such.
legendary
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November 29, 2013, 05:03:21 AM
#23
Traditional wars are a thing of the past, unless its over resources.
There are huge wars going on economically and electronically without most noticing as we speak.
donator
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November 29, 2013, 04:51:59 AM
#22
I've taken the liberty of correcting the order the OP article authors put the sentences in.

"China unilaterally announced the creation of a [sic] "Air Defense Identification Zone" over several islands it and Japan have both claimed. The two countries have been sharply at odds over those isles, which are believed to be near large reserves of natural resources.

Washington responded negatively to what Secretary of State John Kerry characterized as an "escalatory action (that) will only increase tensions in the region and create risks of an incident."

Two U.S. military aircraft flew into China's newly claimed and challenged air defense zone over the East China Sea, a U.S. official said, an action that could inflame tensions between the world powers."
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November 29, 2013, 04:42:56 AM
#21
With the increased integration of economies in the world, I highly doubt any countries actually want to go to war (barring some of those with a deep hatred for each other) due to the extreme economic side effects. China is just pulling out some bluster to maintain it's control over the population as usual.
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November 29, 2013, 04:36:03 AM
#20
The chinese government has been allowing or covertly promoting increasingly rabid anti-japanese rhetoric for a couple of years now (Including giant banners at factories that say things like "all japanese must die" and so forth.

It seems likely that they are planning a short brutal war and looking for some pretext to go to war over.

not gonna happen. anti-japanese rhetoric is good to divert issues from problems within the country and blame the Japanese.

It's not in the interest of either Japan or China to start a war. only crazies like the two koreas would be dumb enough to go as far as to shell each other, but even the DPRK knows where to stop. The time of land conquests by means of war are likely over.
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Free World
November 28, 2013, 11:42:13 PM
#19
Are you saying MTGOX going to war with BTCCHINA?

LOL
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legendary
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November 27, 2013, 01:18:53 PM
#17
China benefits too much from trade to go to war they basically own the U.S through the government debt as well as other countries which is why they can get any kind of deal they like despite being 'evil communists' I think this seems a lot like the kind of rhetoric we saw from Iran awhile back as well, it must be because their leaders don't want to appear weak so they're doing a lot of posing to scare people. I think in truth like most people in the World the Japanese and Chinese themselves don't give a fuck and just want to leave each other alone, it's only the dickwaving douchebags in power that ever want to wage war with each other.
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November 27, 2013, 11:06:50 AM
#16
No chance

Sanity will prevail in the end, that's for sure
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in defi we trust
November 27, 2013, 09:45:29 AM
#15
I do think that Japan and China will have a limited war at some point to resolve the issues of the disputed islands. 
I also think that China will overwelm Japan to such an extent that they will just back down and not try to extend the war further.  Nuclear weapons still stop any large scale wars from happening, but large skirmishes should be possible.

Numbers don't matter , what it matter it's the technology available.
And the JSDF even as tiny as it is will put China back to it's place.
Also , Japan has allies , China ? Not. Russia won't move a finger in this , but will rather join the opposite side.
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 09:42:07 AM
#14
I do think that Japan and China will have a limited war at some point to resolve the issues of the disputed islands. 
I also think that China will overwelm Japan to such an extent that they will just back down and not try to extend the war further.  Nuclear weapons still stop any large scale wars from happening, but large skirmishes should be possible.
sr. member
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November 27, 2013, 09:34:16 AM
#13
It's a chicken race. Most of the times, someone will back down. Most of the times.
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in defi we trust
November 27, 2013, 07:20:08 AM
#12
China will never risk a war.
Right now they will get their ass kicked in so many forms , both on the war from and the economic one that is madness  to even think about it.
Also China is not known for winning wars Smiley
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November 27, 2013, 04:57:41 AM
#11
Some interesting opinions floating about here..!  Roll Eyes
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