Topic: Will China go to war with Japan? - page 2. (Read 10143 times)
You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...
Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?
Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?
I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand?
The Japanese sent a rocket to the moon 17 years before the Chinese. hiten vs chang'n
They abandoned the program because it wasn't cost effective and no real objective beyond.
The Chinese are wasting money on propaganda , just like the Americans did with the Apollo.
Oh, really? According to this they launched their first lunar orbiter only in 2007 (not just a fly-by mission)... Not quite 17 years before the Chinese, especially when taking into account that the latter launched their first orbiter in the same year...
And the facts still somehow contradict your assertion that they abandoned the program
You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...
Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?
Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?
I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand?
The Japanese sent a rocket to the moon 17 years before the Chinese. hiten vs chang'n
They abandoned the program because it wasn't cost effective and no real objective beyond.
The Chinese are wasting money on propaganda , just like the Americans did with the Apollo.
There are still some japanese in isolated islands still at war. And that's no joke.
That was actually just a bit of bad propaganda to make the Japanese look like war-crazy ultra-nationalists.
And it definitely can't be true in 2014, the soldiers doing this would be in their late 80's and 90's.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/28/secondworldwar.japan
Well , not sure if its' real or not but there were some people out there claiming to be soldiers.
So , based on the previous users assumption , the war isn't over right? We still have a nut with a rifle , not an ak , so japan isn't defeated yet.
You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...
Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?
Hey, we were talking about China vs Japan and the tech superiority of the latter before the former (from your words), and now you talk about the USA, lol. What about the Japanese launching something to the Moon really?
I already told you that just one warhead thrown and the deal is over for Japan. Is it that hard to understand? Japan taken by itself is not a match for China, period
You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon already with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...
Yes. China put some unmanned vehicle in the moon. So what? The US had achieved that four decades ago. Do you have any idea how many aircraft carriers which currently serves under the Japanese navy?
No matter what way you look at it they are not the defenseless towel heads the US are used to pushing around. they can bite back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAYzkqYl-oA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAYzkqYl-oA
that is there first. china are currently building a 110,000-ton nuclear-powered 'super aircraft carrier' that will be ready in 2015 with more planed.
I will believe it when I watch it in action. If China is having such capability, then why it didn't build its current aircraft carrier, rather than buying up second hand junk from Russia? Even now the PLAN is in possession of just ONE aircraft carrier (the former Soviet carrier Varyag).
China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.
China buying up useless hardware and a second-hand Russian aircraft carrier (which is actually good for nothing) is not going to help them. Japan is having the best technology. China won't be able to match it even with a 10x budget.
You obviously seem to be stuck with that "useless hardware and Russian aircraft carrier". Hey, wake up already, China is on the Moon now with their "inferior" technology, not Japan with its "best" technology. Why are you so deep in denial? One warhead blown over Tokyo would send all the Japanese tech superiority to dust and ashes...
China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.
China buying up useless hardware and a second-hand Russian aircraft carrier (which is actually good for nothing) is not going to help them. Japan is having the best technology. China won't be able to match it even with a 10x budget.
that is there first. china are currently building a 110,000-ton nuclear-powered 'super aircraft carrier' that will be ready in 2015 with more planed.
There are still some japanese in isolated islands still at war. And that's no joke.
That was actually just a bit of bad propaganda to make the Japanese look like war-crazy ultra-nationalists.
And it definitely can't be true in 2014, the soldiers doing this would be in their late 80's and 90's.
China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.
China buying up useless hardware and a second-hand Russian aircraft carrier (which is actually good for nothing) is not going to help them. Japan is having the best technology. China won't be able to match it even with a 10x budget.
Any all out war that concerns 2 nuclear powers is likely to end in disaster. It seem slikely that the side losing will make up some reason to resort to using nukes and then it's game over. The countries that were not in the war will end up being the winners, forget the one who "wins" the war, if that is even possible in a nuke war.
really 
How would the war be long over. because the US will come to japan aid. and get in and get out. hahaha.
yea because the US went to war with a few camel jockeys with ak47 and it still took years.
or how about the last time the US went to war with china via proxy korean war. how did that end again. quick in and out yea???
and I was not talking about the factories themselves I was talking about the chinese ability to produce. where as in the US they don't and cant manufacture anything.
How would the war be long over. because the US will come to japan aid. and get in and get out. hahaha.
yea because the US went to war with a few camel jockeys with ak47 and it still took years.
or how about the last time the US went to war with china via proxy korean war. how did that end again. quick in and out yea???
and I was not talking about the factories themselves I was talking about the chinese ability to produce. where as in the US they don't and cant manufacture anything.
The war in Afghanistan that fallowed was not a conventional war. They trashed both the afghan army and the irak in less than one month.
You can't end a war if you think that as long as there is one person holding an ak rifle one party isn't defeated. By that measure ww2 isn't yet over. There are still some japanese in isolated islands still at war. And that's no joke.
Also you're talking about the Korean war which is almost as old as the ww2.
China's defence spending has doubled every year since 1989. [...]
Still, isn't China's defense spending a miniscule portion of what the US spends? In fact, I think the total Chinese defense spending is less than what the US spends in research alone.
China’s 2013 Military Budget went up 10.7% $114.3 Billion and is spending much more on defense than it discloses. In 2012, the DoD estimates China spent between $135 billion and $215 billion on military-related expenditures.
really
How would the war be long over. because the US will come to japan aid. and get in and get out. hahaha.
yea because the US went to war with a few camel jockeys with ak47 and it still took years.
or how about the last time the US went to war with china via proxy korean war. how did that end again. quick in and out yea???
and I was not talking about the factories themselves I was talking about the chinese ability to produce. where as in the US they don't and cant manufacture anything.
How would the war be long over. because the US will come to japan aid. and get in and get out. hahaha.
yea because the US went to war with a few camel jockeys with ak47 and it still took years.
or how about the last time the US went to war with china via proxy korean war. how did that end again. quick in and out yea???
and I was not talking about the factories themselves I was talking about the chinese ability to produce. where as in the US they don't and cant manufacture anything.
China's defence spending has doubled every year since 1989. [...]
Still, isn't China's defense spending a miniscule portion of what the US spends? In fact, I think the total Chinese defense spending is less than what the US spends in research alone.
As somebody that lived 600km away from Chernobyl , I can tell you that's one bad idea.
Aggression comes back to you gif needed here.
Aggression comes back to you gif needed here.
Now you should see that they can do even more damage without ever taking to nuclear attacks, right? Should they still be nuked by every other nuclear power out there?
Lols, isn't this assumption making japan look even more dangerous to the chinese?
They too have now a way of unleashing nuclear bombs
.Blow up the chinese nuclear plants. Have a origami bird fly into on of the reactors and bye bye China.
I don't think that even in this scenario some industrial zones in China would be far worse from what they are now. Also note that China's territory is the third largest in the world, so it would be so much different for them...
Well , since I've been to China and I could breath the "air" around there , probably the chinese will survive even a post nuclear scenario.
But seriously , that country is turning into a dump.
And with all their "technology" they can't stop the desert advancing and destroying agricultural land.
if that war was to break out. it would be the start of ww3. china is a power house. and if they put the manufacturing plants to warfare production. they could very well wipe japan off the map.
China's defence spending has doubled every year since 1989. If war broke out china would I blieve have plently of anti satellite missiles ready, that would really hurt the US/japan tech based warfare.
A key element of China's defenses is its growing stockpile of ballistic and cruise missiles that have enough range to blanket much of Asia. its DF-21D "aircraft carrier killer" missile, That has a range of 3000 km and is specially designed to target the U.S. navy.
China's defence spending has doubled every year since 1989. If war broke out china would I blieve have plently of anti satellite missiles ready, that would really hurt the US/japan tech based warfare.
A key element of China's defenses is its growing stockpile of ballistic and cruise missiles that have enough range to blanket much of Asia. its DF-21D "aircraft carrier killer" missile, That has a range of 3000 km and is specially designed to target the U.S. navy.
This is not ww2 and not ww1.
Those plants cant be changed to produce tanks instead of tractors. It's not that age anymore , they are designed for a specific purpose and rather that switching is cheaper and easier to build it from scratch.
Also , by the time the first new aircraft is finished the war will be long over.
As somebody that lived 600km away from Chernobyl , I can tell you that's one bad idea.
Aggression comes back to you gif needed here.
Aggression comes back to you gif needed here.
Now you should see that they can do even more damage without ever taking to nuclear attacks, right? Should they still be nuked by every other nuclear power out there?
Lols, isn't this assumption making japan look even more dangerous to the chinese?
They too have now a way of unleashing nuclear bombs
.Blow up the chinese nuclear plants. Have a origami bird fly into on of the reactors and bye bye China.
I don't think that even in this scenario some industrial zones in China would be far worse from what they are now. Also note that China's territory is the third largest in the world, and it would be so much different for them...
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