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Topic: Will China go to war with Japan? - page 5. (Read 10128 times)

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December 19, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Lol, believing these stupid multimedia?
legendary
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December 19, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
i dont think so.  A war with China would be great for the US economy and terrible for China. We owe China so much we could charge them for every missile and every loss. This is a no lose for the US. But war sucks and China should simply buy the Japanese interest in the islands in lieu of war.Either that or agree to share the oil reserves which is what this is really all about.

No. It will be bad for the US economy. Because the US is having the moral obligation to support Japan, there is no chance that the Americans are going to play neutral here. They will also be dragged in to the war, either willingly or unwillingly.

And the war in Iraq alone cost the American tax payers some $ 1 trillion. But it will pale in comparison to the expenses arising from a future war with China.
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December 19, 2013, 09:17:30 AM
i dont think so.  A war with China would be great for the US economy and terrible for China. We owe China so much we could charge them for every missile and every loss. This is a no lose for the US. But war sucks and China should simply buy the Japanese interest in the islands in lieu of war.Either that or agree to share the oil reserves which is what this is really all about.
sr. member
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December 19, 2013, 05:34:09 AM
What is this nonsense? Everyone knows that humanoid giant robots are the ultimate fighting machines!*  Grin

(* may require watching one or more of the following: Gundam, Macross, Code Geas, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Furi Kuri, etc.)

Or one could just watch Terminator and see the awesome power of the humanoid robot. Cheesy
legendary
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December 19, 2013, 03:55:41 AM
You now chinas military size is over 4,500,000

PLA Ground Force - 1,700,000 (+ 800,000 reserves)

People's Liberation Army Navy - 290,000

People's Liberation Army Air Force - 330,000

The numbers are there for sure. But the vast majority of the PLA soldiers are very poorly trained as well as inadequately equipped with modern weapons. And the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force is far better in quality when compared to the People's Liberation Army Navy.
legendary
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December 19, 2013, 02:23:26 AM
I never managed to watch 1 episode of those.
But from all the references I saw in Gintama , I haven't missed anything Smiley

Also , was FLCL about robots? I thought it was about nonsense.

Yes, FLCL was a lot about nonsense, but nonsense involving giant robots... well, one or two of them were giant robots, the rest were about human sized.  Roll Eyes
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The General
December 19, 2013, 02:21:01 AM
The human form is not designed for fighting.
That's why we have tanks with tracks , planes with turbines not flapping wings and subs with no tails.
So , no giant robots fighting!

What is this nonsense? Everyone knows that humanoid giant robots are the ultimate fighting machines!*  Grin

(* may require watching one or more of the following: Gundam, Macross, Code Geas, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Furi Kuri, etc.)

I never managed to watch 1 episode of those.
But from all the references I saw in Gintama , I haven't missed anything Smiley

Also , was FLCL about robots? I thought it was about nonsense.

FLCL made no sense, it's about some alien girl with a magic guitar and after he hit the main character he could turn into a robot to fight bad guys when he feels threatened or something

and the two main characters have a romantic relationship even though she's 20 years old and the kid is like 10

but yeah Gintama is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!

Also no China will not declare war on Japan.

If there is a war anytime soon, we are all FCKED.

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in defi we trust
December 19, 2013, 02:15:00 AM
The human form is not designed for fighting.
That's why we have tanks with tracks , planes with turbines not flapping wings and subs with no tails.
So , no giant robots fighting!

What is this nonsense? Everyone knows that humanoid giant robots are the ultimate fighting machines!*  Grin

(* may require watching one or more of the following: Gundam, Macross, Code Geas, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Furi Kuri, etc.)

I never managed to watch 1 episode of those.
But from all the references I saw in Gintama , I haven't missed anything Smiley

Also , was FLCL about robots? I thought it was about nonsense.
legendary
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December 19, 2013, 02:01:56 AM
The human form is not designed for fighting.
That's why we have tanks with tracks , planes with turbines not flapping wings and subs with no tails.
So , no giant robots fighting!

What is this nonsense? Everyone knows that humanoid giant robots are the ultimate fighting machines!*  Grin

(* may require watching one or more of the following: Gundam, Macross, Code Geas, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Furi Kuri, etc.)
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in defi we trust
December 19, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
You now chinas military size is over 4,500,000
4500000 Chinese vs 500 000 Japanese
First with chinese weapons , the second with western modern armament.

My bet is on Japan.
A tank can kill 1 million people with sticks but 1 million people with armed with rocks can't destroy a tank.


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December 19, 2013, 01:17:33 AM
You now chinas military size is over 4,500,000
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in defi we trust
December 18, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Dude, haven't you seen Code Geass?

Nope. I don't watch Japanese anime that frequently. What's it about?

They have robot armies in it. UAV are todays pilot test of what is to come. With robots who needs a lot of people?

The human form is not designed for fighting.
That's why we have tanks with tracks , planes with turbines not flapping wings and subs with no tails.
So , no giant robots fighting!

Also , even the UAV right now , they are unmmaned , but they need a person guiding them from the base.
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December 18, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
That's exactly why Germany started the WWII. They had got too much shit to worry about at home, and the blitzkrieg war was probably the only path for the power clique (at least they thought so) to slip out from the inevitable bankruptcy of the state and its socialistic policy...

Just a few days ago two dozen or so died in ethnic clashes inside China (Xinjiang province). Tibetans are protesting against the regime for many months now. The ethnic Chinese themselves are protesting against the corruption committed by the top officials. The conditions are now ripe.

I agree that there is a real risk of war, whether it will be between China and Japan or other countries is hard to say. As I see it war is not a long term beneficial investment, but I do believe that some factions in China see it that way. Especially starting with smaller clashes.

There are several reasons for why China would want at least a smaller war:

(1) hubris
(2) increasing international clout (the Philippines come to mind)
(3) using a common enemy to distract people at home from problems
(4) want of an empire

But I consider it almost equally likely that the declining hegemon (the US) would like to go to war with China (going through a proxy like Japan or Taiwan is one way to do it). In fact if the US managed to cut off China from a lot of international trade it would benefit immensely, because it could still get cheap manufacturing goods from other countries it has more control over. Additionally, increasing military spending is a great way to turn around the economy (like the US did in WW2).

However, I doubt China will be involved in a war soon. However within years it is not unlikely. How many I have no idea of.
legendary
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December 18, 2013, 11:23:47 AM
That's exactly why Germany started the WWII. They had got too much shit to worry about at home, and the blitzkrieg war was probably the only path for the power clique (at least they thought so) to slip out from the inevitable bankruptcy of the state and its socialistic policy...

Just a few days ago two dozen or so died in ethnic clashes inside China (Xinjiang province). Tibetans are protesting against the regime for many months now. The ethnic Chinese themselves are protesting against the corruption committed by the top officials. The conditions are now ripe.
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December 18, 2013, 11:04:57 AM
War would not benefit China in the slightest. They've got enough shit to worry about at home (most of china being either smog ridden or in poverty). Going to war doesn't make any sense, especially if you end up destroying or being destroyed by a valuable trade partner.

That's exactly why Germany started the WWII. They had got too much shit to worry about at home, and the blitzkrieg war was probably the only path for the power clique (at least they thought so) to slip out from the inevitable bankruptcy of the state and its socialistic policy...
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December 18, 2013, 08:40:41 AM
War would not benefit China in the slightest. They've got enough shit to worry about at home (most of china being either smog ridden or in poverty). Going to war doesn't make any sense, especially if you end up destroying or being destroyed by a valuable trade partner.
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December 18, 2013, 08:39:18 AM
They have robot armies in it. UAV are todays pilot test of what is to come. With robots who needs a lot of people?

Right now robots are not capable of doing all the maneuvers which the humans are capable of. They can only play a supporting role in the war zone. May be in 10-15 years it will be possible to replace regular armies with robots.
Dude, it is here today!

Check to first minute or so of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zP7yP8hdLE CheesyCheesy:D
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legendary
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December 18, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
They have robot armies in it. UAV are todays pilot test of what is to come. With robots who needs a lot of people?

Right now robots are not capable of doing all the maneuvers which the humans are capable of. They can only play a supporting role in the war zone. May be in 10-15 years it will be possible to replace regular armies with robots.
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December 18, 2013, 06:04:24 AM
Dude, haven't you seen Code Geass?

Nope. I don't watch Japanese anime that frequently. What's it about?

They have robot armies in it. UAV are todays pilot test of what is to come. With robots who needs a lot of people?
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