WTF Avalon? Ship the Chips! - page 11.

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Quote from: pikeadz on August 07, 2013, 04:02:03 PM

Thankfully, there are other ways to get bitcoins. You can simply buy them.

See ya.

You have got to be trolling. Should we buy them with the money that we already spent on avalon chips to mine them? Or are we all suddenly independently wealthy? I must have missed the memo, guess I'll be watching my mailbox for that check ;P

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Thanks! Might be useful. Ill try my luck.

Quote from: AdamKD on August 07, 2013, 03:52:24 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:44:05 PM

Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.

yifu guo
http://www.linkedin.com/in/yifuguo
https://github.com/yifuguo
[email protected]
http://bitsyn.com

ngzhang:
https://github.com/ngzhang

https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus (Signed-off-by: ngzhang <[email protected]>)
("If you want to join this project and make some changes, please e-mail me: [email protected]")

xiangfu:
(https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xiangfu-46727)

https://github.com/xiangfu

[email protected]
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Maybe his FB
https://www.facebook.com/yifu.guo.1

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Quote from: s40ward on August 07, 2013, 02:41:08 PM

I chose to invest (probably more than I should have) on the belief that I was investing in a system free from the "big guys". With Yifu's failure and other realizations..I care for bitcoin no more. A neat experiment..ultimately corrupted and soiled the in the same ways all things tied to money always are.

How do you make more USD than mining bitcoins? Rip off the entire (willfully overstated) community with shitty and probably illegal methods. I look forward to a lawsuit against Mr. Yifu Guo. I don't even hope to collect. My money's already gone..or so I must believe.

Thanks Avalon. DIAF.

Thankfully, there are other ways to get bitcoins. You can simply buy them.

See ya.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:44:05 PM

Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.

Yifu Guo:
(This looks right, might not be ... https://plus.google.com/115522189507514183090/about ... a lot of ppl from Brooklyn Polytechnic have him in circles and a "Bitcoin Advocate" ... also Jeff Garzik (https://plus.google.com/105424721218711536033) is a person he's following. Same with Gavin Anderson ("https://plus.google.com/117494054859918211010") )
http://www.linkedin.com/in/yifuguo
https://github.com/yifuguo
[email protected]
[email protected]
http://bitsyn.com
http://www.reddit.com/user/yifuguo

( His work and cell 380-115-6072 and 347-370-9069) from ("https://109.201.133.65/index.php?topic=211593.msg2230878#msg2230878")

(Managing Member - YIFU GUO
Address 1:     2282 E15   Address 2:
City:     BROOKLYN   State:     NY
Zip Code:     11229   Country:
Status:     Active   Email:     ) from ("https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=ozwghIfOnmFj64qH4nYDaA%253d%253d")

(Registrant Contact:

   Yifu Guo ()

   Fax:
   2282 EAST 15th STREET
   FIRST FLOOR
   BROOKLYN, P 11229
   US) from ("http://whois.domaintools.com/yifuguo.com")

([email protected]) from ("https://dominder.com/bitcoinstore.us")

(Yifu Guo
skype: yifu.guo
http://bitsyn.com
1-(347)-370-9069
"Life is an everlasting self-improvement.") from ("https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/babycastles/65zLZJYLsck", "http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/2094")

("http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/2094" -> You can scrape that page for contact info of people who interacted with him to contact those if you want.)

http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2013/02/01/10389481/Avalon_Press_Release.pdf ----> "Brooklyn Native"

ngzhang:
https://github.com/ngzhang

https://github.com/ngzhang/Icarus (Signed-off-by: ngzhang <[email protected]>)
("If you want to join this project and make some changes, please e-mail me: [email protected]")

(CONTACT:

email: [email protected]
QQ: 17568957) from ("https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/avalon-asic-announcement-pre-order-pre-order-over-project-started-110090")

xiangfu:
(https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xiangfu-46727)

https://github.com/xiangfu

[email protected]
http://www.openmobilefree.net

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Quote from: lukestokes on August 07, 2013, 03:32:54 PM

Quote from: server on August 07, 2013, 02:49:23 PM

I was wondering too.

Did you get a reply from Yifu ?

I emailed the info@ address and got a reply from NG Zhang about an hour later. I have yet to receive a follow up reply.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I've contacted a few clone builders and am going to take everything apart right now to get an idea of what parts I need and how much they will cost.

So it seems NGzgang, answered this guy.
Maybe some one should try emailing him?

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Ill try the email but if its true they parted its not likely the mail will reach its target. But without trying no chance at all.

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Quote from: ampu on August 07, 2013, 03:36:39 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:06:41 PM

Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

Here is just an email address..
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1383-so-here-avalon-asics-3rd-batch-scenario-fyi.html

You may as well paste it here dude; [email protected]

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:06:41 PM

Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

Here is just an email address..
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/1383-so-here-avalon-asics-3rd-batch-scenario-fyi.html

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:17:16 PM

Quote from: geekoin on August 07, 2013, 03:15:33 PM

Quote from: badalien on August 07, 2013, 01:55:47 PM

i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

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This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?

Yifu doesnt have to pay much for the chipproduction. They earned enough money from the miners before so they dont need to use the money from that address.

VICE: This is an obvious question, but why aren’t you mining your own chips?

Yifu: Like I said, the current reality is vastly different from what we originally had planned. We always figured we would be late to the party. Butterfly Labs and bASIC (another ASIC developer that ultimately failed to launch) were supposed to launch in succession. But due to various complications and delays, it didn’t work out that way.

If they had delivered on their promises, they would have shipped months before our first batch. We wanted to start selling chips so people could make their own units, providing a hedge from a single entity becoming too powerful, and then move onto a new project. That was our main goal. We wanted to prevent this potential monopoly. As it turned out, we became the monopoly we tried to prevent.

VICE: You aren’t doing any mining at all?

Yifu: Nope. Fun fact: none of the Avalon team have their own mining units (outside of test units).

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/engineering-the-bitcoin-gold-rush-an-interview-with-yifu-guo-creator-of-the-first-asic-based-miner#ixzz2bJSc9dJX

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He once said he does not control the address.

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Quote from: geekoin on August 07, 2013, 03:15:33 PM

Quote from: badalien on August 07, 2013, 01:55:47 PM

i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

+1
This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?

Yifu doesnt have to pay much for the chipproduction. They earned enough money from the miners before so they dont need to use the money from that address.

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Quote from: badalien on August 07, 2013, 01:55:47 PM

i think Yifu - Bitsyncom cant deliver the chips, because they have no chips Sad

+1
This is the payment address for chip orders: https://blockchain.info/address/1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU
It currently has a balance of 75,779.8 BTC with no withdrawals.
So doesn't it look like they haven't paid TSMC for chip production?

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Quote from: AdamKD on August 07, 2013, 03:11:15 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:06:41 PM

Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

I believe Yifu is the one mostly for the blame. From my understanding (through reading these forums - therefore it may be wrong and should be considered a speculation) the group (ngzhang/yifu/etc) broke up due to ethical disagreements. I think the chip delays are this ethical disagreement. In what way? No idea - but that'd be another speculation.

In any case it'd be nice if ngzhang could enlighten the community, or for that matter anyone from former 'Avalon', on what exactly is happening here.

I didnt ask to blame them, i only would like to ask them whats going on. The better when they broke because of ethical disagreements. This should mean we can get infos more likely. I only wonder if thats the case when they keep silence. So it would be good to know details about them so one could try to find contact details then.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 03:06:41 PM

Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

I believe Yifu is the one mostly for the blame. From my understanding (through reading these forums - therefore it may be wrong and should be considered a speculation) the group (ngzhang/yifu/etc) broke up due to ethical disagreements. I think the chip delays are this ethical disagreement. In what way? No idea - but that'd be another speculation.

In any case it'd be nice if ngzhang could enlighten the community, or for that matter anyone from former 'Avalon', on what exactly is happening here.

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Does anyone know any more detail about ngzhang? His name or other details? He writes in his profile that he wont read PM's but maybe some other data can be found.

And the other user that posted the boxes with chips... is it really a member of BitSyncom? If so someone knows details?

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Quote from: chanberg on August 07, 2013, 02:42:10 PM

lol so dramatic jeez

It takes a lot to get me riled. I would call this conduct "a lot". Lol. I will say no more! Lips sealed

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Quote from: chanberg on August 07, 2013, 02:42:10 PM

Quote from: s40ward on August 07, 2013, 02:41:08 PM

I chose to invest (probably more than I should have) on the belief that I was investing in a system free from the "big guys". With Yifu's failure and other realizations..I care for bitcoin no more. A neat experiment..ultimately corrupted and soiled the in the same ways all things tied to money always are.

How do you make more USD than mining bitcoins? Rip off the entire (willfully overstated) community with shitty and probably illegal methods. I look forward to a lawsuit against Mr. Yifu Guo. I don't even hope to collect. My money's already gone..or so I must believe.

Thanks Avalon. DIAF.

lol so dramatic jeez

ya well, sounds like Mr Yifu Guo needs some of this drama brought to his doorstep, im sure he is living comfortably without a care in the world where any of our chips are, we invested millions of dollars into his company, for all we know he took our money and ran, or built his own machines with the chips to mine with them and may claim they got confiscated in customs, got stolen, irrepairably damaged or will decide to have more chips made after difficulty has reached past 200,000,000.

This company has fucked us and the whole bitcoin community over, if we had the mined bitcoins with our own machines already a large percentage of those profits would be spent within the bitcoin economy and make bitcoin even stronger, instead these chips are probably lining someone elses pockets with exchanged bitcoins to USD.

We all know Avalon has mined from customers equipment in the past and how shady they are.

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I think a lawyer sending Yifu a letter might be a good idea but the police or something could make everything worse. I dont want to see chips blocked for a police investigation or something of that kind. And if Yifu thinks he lost every trust for the future, so that his customers fight him already, he could start to act nefario-like so that at the end one had to beg to get at least the details about the securities.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 07, 2013, 07:49:50 AM

Quote from: warhawk187 on August 06, 2013, 09:07:54 PM

Anyone knows where yifu hangs out in NY? I live here and can certainly give him a piece of my mind regarding getting those damn chips shipped already. (Not just Batch 1).

I only know these details: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2594647

I see this is where he registered the address for Bitsyncom, I thought Yifu lived in Brooklyn, based on the articles I have read about him. I see he/they chose Albany because the cost of that office is probably incredibly cheap.

I understand that this is cutting edge technology, but its reaching a point where millions of $ have been invested in many companies, and so far a handful of products have been released. There is certainly some backroom dealing going on that we dont know about.

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