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In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
June 23, 2013, 06:06:02 AM
If I ever get a console again, the price would have to be down a lot, just because of the subscriptions involved when you have actually bought the console. In fact, I don't think I would even play on line. I would most likely play single player games.
I doubt I will get a console because for me needs I don't see the point.

Certainly, a shame as I did like the PS3 & Xbox 360. Just because they were mainly for gaming. I did prefer PS3. After experiencing both of them the PS3 was much faster and more responsive. For graphics and game capabilities, they are pretty much the same. Xbox had better communications and more people playing on line and was a lot cheaper than the PS3 at the time.


However, The PS4 is indeed cheaper than the xbox and offers everything related to gaming as the Xbox does. Except the Kinect which is **** anyway.

Consoles are the only way to play the awesome RPG's, which sucks. I wish more RPG's were ported over to the PC. As it is, you really have to rely on consoles for certain game genres.
As I am a fan of modern and semi-modern RPGs, I can say most are on PC so that doesn't worry me. Old school ones don't really catch my attention.
legendary
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June 23, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
If I ever get a console again, the price would have to be down a lot, just because of the subscriptions involved when you have actually bought the console. In fact, I don't think I would even play on line. I would most likely play single player games.
I doubt I will get a console because for me needs I don't see the point.

Certainly, a shame as I did like the PS3 & Xbox 360. Just because they were mainly for gaming. I did prefer PS3. After experiencing both of them the PS3 was much faster and more responsive. For graphics and game capabilities, they are pretty much the same. Xbox had better communications and more people playing on line and was a lot cheaper than the PS3 at the time.


However, The PS4 is indeed cheaper than the xbox and offers everything related to gaming as the Xbox does. Except the Kinect which is **** anyway.

Consoles are the only way to play the awesome RPG's, which sucks. I wish more RPG's were ported over to the PC. As it is, you really have to rely on consoles for certain game genres.
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June 21, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
However, The PS4 is indeed cheaper than the xbox and offers everything related to gaming as the Xbox does. Except the Kinect which is **** anyway.

I only bought the Xbox 360 because of the Kinect, and I only play Kinect games on it, with the exception of Rock Band/Band Hero games. The Kinect is revolutionary for exercise games. I am waiting to see if anyone takes advantage of the new Kinect features for exercising. If so, it may eventually be worth it to me to get the One.
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June 21, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
If I ever get a console again, the price would have to be down a lot, just because of the subscriptions involved when you have actually bought the console. In fact, I don't think I would even play on line. I would most likely play single player games.
I doubt I will get a console because for me needs I don't see the point.

Certainly, a shame as I did like the PS3 & Xbox 360. Just because they were mainly for gaming. I did prefer PS3. After experiencing both of them the PS3 was much faster and more responsive. For graphics and game capabilities, they are pretty much the same. Xbox had better communications and more people playing on line and was a lot cheaper than the PS3 at the time.


However, The PS4 is indeed cheaper than the xbox and offers everything related to gaming as the Xbox does. Except the Kinect which is **** anyway.
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 10:17:47 PM
8 year tenure on Xbox live. Haven't played playstation since 1 and 2. Already pre-order the Cod bundle, can't wait.
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June 20, 2013, 01:52:02 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.

Maybe that was their plan. But, Sony was already doing this. Xbox had to do it, otherwise they would have lost the battle. They didn't listen to customers. They listened to their advisor's that they were making a big mistake.

It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Xbox fans will always buy the next Xbox, regardless as to what kind of ridiculousness is implemented. Much like why PC gamers use Windows. Because we like to? No. Because our choices are either 1) use Windows or 2) not be able to play most of our games.



You are right we gamers use windows for playing games because there are no other options which we like. Don't get me wrong there are options but they aren't quick enough or reliable enough for me. Windows is a top class operating system. Even though I believe Linux is better, Linux is not meant for gaming.
Just like the Xbox isn't made solely made for gaming. It's got all this multimedia. That's why a lot of people are pissed.
They want a console which just does what they want it to do, GAME. I don't want to watch Netflix or listen to music which I have to pay for. I can do that on my Smart TV which I plug in my Xbox.
But, back to the point. You said PC users use windows because we have no other choice. Well, Xbox fans HAVE a CHOICE. Sony is their competitors. They both do the same thing. Except Xbox has all added crap.

There is good news for PC users who use Linux. There is going to be further development in some games for Linux. So hopefully some big titles will be able to work.
Also, there is going to be a emulator which I have been keeping my eyes on. It looks promising and has been in development for quite a while now.
But, I don't see Linux as a gaming operating system. I normally use it for programming, networking & database work.


Exclusives for Xbox take away the choice, much like exclusives for PS3 take away the choice there. For example, Halo; one of the games that's played as an eSport.

So while you have a choice in whether or not you want to buy each system, if you want to play the games you like you have to get the proper one(s).

That is the developers choice. That's why a lot of game have not announced anything for the consoles & only for PC to this date. They may still develop for the console but it's their decision.
In fact Microsoft are known for paying developers to make it exclusive to Xbox. Of course Sony does it too.
I respect a developer which takes the time to develop on each platform. They put more effort into it. They have better profit margins. They give people freedom of choice.

I personally don't like gears of war & the halo series. Forza Motorsport on the other hand, is my style of game.

I will not be getting either on of the consoles. It's just a computer now. When people realise the price they are charging for a low end PC, people will start to ask why.
Xbox kept mentioning they have "Voice control" and how awesome it is. Voice control has been around for years. Nothing new and nothing special. It was a bug flop just like 3D tv's.


I'm only following each console, because there's a mini war going on between them, other than that I'm not interested. Especially paying online. PC = free. Also, think of all the games which you can't get on ps4 and Xbox. There are loads.
Classics like red alert (the good version, it's shit on the ps3 & xbox). command & conquer. Theme hospital (Very old game). Age of Conan.
I can go on and on. World of Warcraft. Everyone likes that don't they? Another would be Minecraft. Minecraft will never be as good on the Xbox.

legendary
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June 20, 2013, 08:36:57 AM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.

Maybe that was their plan. But, Sony was already doing this. Xbox had to do it, otherwise they would have lost the battle. They didn't listen to customers. They listened to their advisor's that they were making a big mistake.

It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Xbox fans will always buy the next Xbox, regardless as to what kind of ridiculousness is implemented. Much like why PC gamers use Windows. Because we like to? No. Because our choices are either 1) use Windows or 2) not be able to play most of our games.



You are right we gamers use windows for playing games because there are no other options which we like. Don't get me wrong there are options but they aren't quick enough or reliable enough for me. Windows is a top class operating system. Even though I believe Linux is better, Linux is not meant for gaming.
Just like the Xbox isn't made solely made for gaming. It's got all this multimedia. That's why a lot of people are pissed.
They want a console which just does what they want it to do, GAME. I don't want to watch Netflix or listen to music which I have to pay for. I can do that on my Smart TV which I plug in my Xbox.
But, back to the point. You said PC users use windows because we have no other choice. Well, Xbox fans HAVE a CHOICE. Sony is their competitors. They both do the same thing. Except Xbox has all added crap.

There is good news for PC users who use Linux. There is going to be further development in some games for Linux. So hopefully some big titles will be able to work.
Also, there is going to be a emulator which I have been keeping my eyes on. It looks promising and has been in development for quite a while now.
But, I don't see Linux as a gaming operating system. I normally use it for programming, networking & database work.


Exclusives for Xbox take away the choice, much like exclusives for PS3 take away the choice there. For example, Halo; one of the games that's played as an eSport.

So while you have a choice in whether or not you want to buy each system, if you want to play the games you like you have to get the proper one(s).
staff
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June 20, 2013, 06:13:40 AM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.

Maybe that was their plan. But, Sony was already doing this. Xbox had to do it, otherwise they would have lost the battle. They didn't listen to customers. They listened to their advisor's that they were making a big mistake.

It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Xbox fans will always buy the next Xbox, regardless as to what kind of ridiculousness is implemented. Much like why PC gamers use Windows. Because we like to? No. Because our choices are either 1) use Windows or 2) not be able to play most of our games.



You are right we gamers use windows for playing games because there are no other options which we like. Don't get me wrong there are options but they aren't quick enough or reliable enough for me. Windows is a top class operating system. Even though I believe Linux is better, Linux is not meant for gaming.
Just like the Xbox isn't made solely made for gaming. It's got all this multimedia. That's why a lot of people are pissed.
They want a console which just does what they want it to do, GAME. I don't want to watch Netflix or listen to music which I have to pay for. I can do that on my Smart TV which I plug in my Xbox.
But, back to the point. You said PC users use windows because we have no other choice. Well, Xbox fans HAVE a CHOICE. Sony is their competitors. They both do the same thing. Except Xbox has all added crap.

There is good news for PC users who use Linux. There is going to be further development in some games for Linux. So hopefully some big titles will be able to work.
Also, there is going to be a emulator which I have been keeping my eyes on. It looks promising and has been in development for quite a while now.
But, I don't see Linux as a gaming operating system. I normally use it for programming, networking & database work.
legendary
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June 19, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.

Maybe that was their plan. But, Sony was already doing this. Xbox had to do it, otherwise they would have lost the battle. They didn't listen to customers. They listened to their advisor's that they were making a big mistake.

It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other. Xbox fans will always buy the next Xbox, regardless as to what kind of ridiculousness is implemented. Much like why PC gamers use Windows. Because we like to? No. Because our choices are either 1) use Windows or 2) not be able to play most of our games.
staff
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June 19, 2013, 08:50:11 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.

Maybe that was their plan. But, Sony was already doing this. Xbox had to do it, otherwise they would have lost the battle. They didn't listen to customers. They listened to their advisor's that they were making a big mistake.
legendary
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June 19, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

Whoa now... that was unexpected and honestly I think it changes my entire view of the One. To me, a company paying attention to its customers is one of the most admirable things one can do. To read this and see that Microsoft completely did a 180 from something they were so adamant about (or two things, if you consider the requirement to be online to play SP games) is major to me.
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June 19, 2013, 06:48:17 PM
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I'm curious why? Not trying to knock you just want the honest truth. IMO now the only thing that the PS4 still has over Xbox is it's $100 cheaper. Other than that what else is better?
Faster memory

PS4 may have faster RAM, but Xbox has better memory cache. Look at the PS3. It had faster RAM than the 360 yet it could barely handle Skyrim. Skyrim worked fine on the 360 because RAM is not the only important feature.

I've owned Skyrim and other various performance hogging games. And they worked perfect. In fact, I only ever experienced a few second freezes. But, that's mainly the developers. They are pretty well known for buggy games.
I have also owned Skyrim on Xbox. It was pretty much the same. I experienced freezing and one or two crashes.

Xbox uses more memory in the background. If you have looked into debugging etc. You'll see that the Xbox is doing various other stuff whilst running the game. Whilst the Ps3 does the same. it's a lot less than the Xbox.
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June 19, 2013, 06:39:26 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

how is it sony's turn?
xbox just caught UP to sony, they have to make another move to make things right
also, more expensive, mandatory kinect.

and I don't even use consoles and i can tell sony is still in the better position.
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June 19, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
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I'm curious why? Not trying to knock you just want the honest truth. IMO now the only thing that the PS4 still has over Xbox is it's $100 cheaper. Other than that what else is better?
Faster memory

PS4 may have faster RAM, but Xbox has better memory cache. Look at the PS3. It had faster RAM than the 360 yet it could barely handle Skyrim. Skyrim worked fine on the 360 because RAM is not the only important feature.
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June 19, 2013, 06:15:18 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

I guess they'll have to rename it to the XBox 180.
I guess xbox finally realized how much money they would've lost keeping the DRM in place. Even with this news i'll still most likely get a PS4 instead.

I'm curious why? Not trying to knock you just want the honest truth. IMO now the only thing that the PS4 still has over Xbox is it's $100 cheaper. Other than that what else is better?
Well overall I'm just tired of Microsoft and this DRM issue was the last straw. I've never owned a Playstation before (always had an Xbox) so I think now's a good time to try one.
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June 19, 2013, 06:12:33 PM
I hate to break it to you guys but modern day consoles now tend to just be plastic boxes with pre-configured PC components stuck in them and a controller attached, as far as I know they don't do anything particularly different from PCs ( In fact you could argue they're worse ) and they're just used as a good way of letting publishers have a monopoly over whatever goes on inside. This is also the reasoning behind why I hate PC forms of DRM because we already had that shit, its' just being used in a way to steal away control from the end user.

Exactly, you might as well get a PC with a controller....


The Xbox & Ps4 will still lose money this year. Xbox has made a great move with trade in games & no internet required. But, Ps4 was already doing that. So they have only matched Ps4. I believe Sony have something up they're sleeve.

But, no matter what happens I'll be sticking with my PC thank you!
legendary
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June 19, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
I hate to break it to you guys but modern day consoles now tend to just be plastic boxes with pre-configured PC components stuck in them and a controller attached, as far as I know they don't do anything particularly different from PCs ( In fact you could argue they're worse ) and they're just used as a good way of letting publishers have a monopoly over whatever goes on inside. This is also the reasoning behind why I hate PC forms of DRM because we already had that shit, it's just being used in a way to steal away control from the end user.

The only way I could see games consoles getting back into the market again is if they made them open source and easy to configure like a PC but then that would be just a PC with a different name on it really.
legendary
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June 19, 2013, 06:01:02 PM
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I'm curious why? Not trying to knock you just want the honest truth. IMO now the only thing that the PS4 still has over Xbox is it's $100 cheaper. Other than that what else is better?
Faster memory
hero member
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June 19, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

I guess they'll have to rename it to the XBox 180.
I guess xbox finally realized how much money they would've lost keeping the DRM in place. Even with this news i'll still most likely get a PS4 instead.

I'm curious why? Not trying to knock you just want the honest truth. IMO now the only thing that the PS4 still has over Xbox is it's $100 cheaper. Other than that what else is better?
sr. member
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June 19, 2013, 05:36:10 PM
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Xbox has removed all its DRM. Your move Sony.

I guess they'll have to rename it to the XBox 180.
I guess xbox finally realized how much money they would've lost keeping the DRM in place. Even with this news i'll still most likely get a PS4 instead.
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