I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off. 
it's because of the emission, those who are patient will win big.
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August 28, 2014, 05:51:12 PM
it's because of the emission, those who are patient will win big.
August 28, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
Anyone who wants a GUI is free to use one of the third party ones, the development of which were supported by the community including the core developers.
Just because we are working hard on a brand new GUI that is truly revolutionary in terms of ease-of-use and design does take anything away from the more traditional GUIs that are available now:
Just because we are working hard on a brand new GUI that is truly revolutionary in terms of ease-of-use and design does take anything away from the more traditional GUIs that are available now:
Monero Client .NET (for Windows) - Please use v0.39.0-rc.1!
Monero QT Wallet (for all platforms) - You need to compile it from GitHub
Monero QT Wallet (for all platforms) - You need to compile it from GitHub
August 28, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It's just not ready yet. When the GUI and database are ironed out, I believe we'll see much more adoption.
So, I view our current status as something of an IPO. Or a technology preview for us alpha nerds.
I remember years and years ago when Bitcoin was simmering below the surface. You'd see an occasional release posted to Freshmeat and whatnot. This is very similar. Command line and all.
Spot on brotha!! Thanks!!
August 28, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.
Seriously? It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD. If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.
Doing very well all things considered ...
i would not say it's "horrifically user unfriendly", but it's not like most wallets for sure - I'm sorry that most people today are petrified/scared/turned off by CLI, but as an old school dude, i love it to be honest. i don't care about the gui wallet, it will just inflate the price once it comes, making them harder/more expensive to buy.
TL;DR = This coin has serious potential. the longer no fancy wallet is out, the more time to buy in early...
edit - not to mention, since the .10 tx fee's started, i'm moving much less around, especially mined coins. too expensive to move them!
August 28, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It's just not ready yet. When the GUI and database are ironed out, I believe we'll see much more adoption.
So, I view our current status as something of an IPO. Or a technology preview for us alpha nerds.
I remember years and years ago when Bitcoin was simmering below the surface. You'd see an occasional release posted to Freshmeat and whatnot. This is very similar. Command line and all.
August 28, 2014, 04:21:10 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.
Seriously? It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD. If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.
Doing very well all things considered ...
Edit: It will eventually "take off" but then one will not be able to buy at these prices. This is what a lot of the "smart money" moving into XMR as we speak is betting on.
August 28, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.
Seriously? It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD. If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.
I certainly agree with you that there is much work to be done (and being done).
Regarding XC, DRK, and BTCD, we are literally ahead of XC and BTCD in market cap already and the market caps aren't directly comparable since those are fully mined coins (correct comparison is that we are at parity at roughly 1/6 their cap, which puts us far ahead). We're slightly behind DRK but the momentum is very much in our favor. We'll see.
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Doing very well all things considered ...
Exactly.
August 28, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.
Seriously? It's horrifically user unfriendly and unrefined and it's still in a race with XC, Dark & BTCD. If/when it pulls away and polishes it's features off (doesn't take all your ram, official GUI, etc) it will launch IMO.
Doing very well all things considered ...
August 28, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
I love this coin for it's innovation but what eludes me is why it never takes off.
It is a top 20 coin (top 10 if you exclude premined/nonmined) in a universe of hundreds (at least) of altcoins. I'd say that counts as taking off.
August 28, 2014, 03:37:23 PM
Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.
Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Hm, probably most secure would be using an in-between account, I guess.Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Could be accessed with TOR, once it's supported.
Not nice, but effective. Or do you think it is overdone?
Using an in-between account doesn't add anything, because each transfer using a new one-time key pair.
As far as anyone else can tell (non-participant to the transaction), every transfer goes to a new account. Since you are the only participant when sending to yourself, no one else can tell.
The complicating issue is lack of coin control in the wallet currently. The only way to ensure that the coins are resent is to use a separate wallet.
August 28, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.
Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Hm, probably most secure would be using an in-between account, I guess.Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
Could be accessed with TOR, once it's supported.
Not nice, but effective. Or do you think it is overdone?
August 28, 2014, 03:19:05 PM
yeah i'm owed btc too.
Okay negative trust added. I encourage others to do the same if you have any bad experience with them. I'm willing to remove mine if they get things cleaned up.
August 28, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
What if one doesn't like the broadcaster able to determine the anonymity of an transaction?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?
Send the coins back to yourself using a mix. No one, not even the sender, can tell what you did.
Probably best to wait a little while though, since timing can be used make inferences (though never with certainty) about which transactions are related.
August 28, 2014, 03:11:13 PM
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Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.
You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.
yeah i'm owed btc too.
Their bets looks very.. fake. All bets are huge compared to what you would normaly see on a dice site.
Yea, the site is a scam. Most of the "bets" are above .5 Bitcoin lmao. Even primedice(bitcoins biggest casino) mostly has bets below .1 bitcoin
August 28, 2014, 03:08:38 PM
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What is EFF?
When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?
Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.
You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.
yeah i'm owed btc too.
Their bets looks very.. fake. All bets are huge compared to what you would normaly see on a dice site.
August 28, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
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What is EFF?
When will affiliates be working? Can you pay out affiliates manually for now?
Unless they fix affiliates soon I'm going to add negative trust to their account.
You simply can't run a gambling site and screw affiliates. It's dishonest and more than that stupid. If you are dishonest enough to do it deliberately or stupid enough to do it non-deliberately, you can not be trusted.
yeah i'm owed btc too.
August 28, 2014, 02:44:55 PM
What if one doesn't like the broadcaster able to determine the anonymity of an transaction?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?
Can't there be an option to let the wallet e.g. reject an incoming transaction if it doesn't come with a certain count of mixes and then let the network automatically do more mixes before the transfer is accepted?
If fees get to high, the transaction would be fully rejected.
Wouldn't this be a way to let the user decide to always stay fully anonymous?
August 28, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
-snip-
Your fee on that transaction was 0.2 XMR - http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/487ba284e7f4aecc262901d7ac8d8490a9639484e8c28ffe84de0ba89e7abda6
I see no reason for the fee to be 0.2 XMR, though, are you using a custom build of simplewallet?
No, i use 0.8.8.2 Win64 http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip
August 28, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Seems like Monero and duckNote are two
The best thing about duckNode is Wittgenstein. He's dead.Perhaps you and I could launch RabbitNote? They would accuse us of being a pure clone, but they are just backwards....
August 28, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
The view key will eventually allow you to do that but for now you can look up the transaction in a block explorer by txid to make sure it was confirmed into the block chain.
Ok. is there a command to get that tx id from wherever i'm sending from? (meaning from simple wallet?? As I would probably/likely send it from the exchange a temporary simplewallet address, then on to the paper address).
So, thats me final question, I promise, and thanks again, much appreciated.
When you send from simplewallet it gives you the txid right away. When you send from an exchange they usually give you the txid on their wallet/balances/withdraw page although it was reported here recently that one of the exchanges did not.
I can confirm that MintPal does not provide a txid. I happened to do my first XMR withdrawal during the DoS attack from a few days ago, so the delay wasn't exactly comforting but in the end the transaction went through OK.
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