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Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

Hi, it's me again.

I tried to download and install the wallet. That went well.
Then I started syncing, but after a while I needed to close it, because my laptop become very slow Undecided

Make sure you're not using the prebuilt binaries, they're very old.

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

* Mixing my full balance took 3 hours. How long would it take to mix 10 XMR (about the same value)

From instant to a a minute if you're on a slow computer and sending a lot of small outputs.

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

* When I was mixing, the wallet showed that sometimes masternodes were idle (probably because they weren't upgraded). Is the mixing network of Monero faster?

There is no mixing network. Instead of sending your outouts to others who shuffle them in rounds, you mix them on your own computer, against the whole blockchain, and nobody can see what you've done (insert usual warnings about malware, etc).

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

* Doing a darksend transaction of +/- 1 DASH costed me 0.1 DASH. What is the fee for an XMR "darksend" ?

0.01 monero per kB. This does not depend on value sent, though larger values may need more outouts if you only have small ones. A typical tx can be 1 to several kB. High mixin mean larger size, and thus larger fee.

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Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

Hi, it's me again.

I tried to download and install the wallet. That went well.
Then I started syncing, but after a while I needed to close it, because my laptop become very slow Undecided

Any ideas how to solve this? I'm sorry, I didn't read in this topic yet. Maybe there is a solution already.
If there isn't, i'm sorry, but then I won't be able to test out XMR and just stick with DASH.
I don't want to buy a faster laptop just to test a cryptocurrency.

The current version is a bit outdated. This version stores the entire blockchain in RAM/swap, that's why you felt your laptop (almost) grind to a halt.

You have three options:
- try the new beta for windows (i'm guessing you use windows) - URL Huh

- compile and run from the current master - https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/
- wait for the new release to finish your comparison (you might lose the valuation caused by that release, or not)

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How long would it take to mix 10 XMR (about the same value)

Very seldom it is more than a few secs. (It really depends on the inputs you have in your wallet).

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* When I was mixing, the wallet showed that sometimes masternodes were idle (probably because they weren't upgraded). Is the mixing network of Monero faster?

There is no mixing network for monero, ie you are not dependent of external services to ensure privacy for your transactions. The wallet simple chooses the outputs to mix with from the blockchain you have on your computer and sends the transaction.

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* Doing a darksend transaction of +/- 1 DASH costed me 0.1 DASH. What is the fee for an XMR "darksend" ?

First of all, the privacy features of monero are the default. You don't have to make a special kind of transaction to make it private. You just have to choose the level of obfuscation (the minimum is 0 for the time being but that is going to change). Regarding the fees it depends on the size of the transaction (more inputs, bigger size). Currently it is defined as 0.01 XMR per KB.

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Quote from: cryptonewb on October 14, 2015, 11:28:08 AM

Hi, it's me again.

I tried to download and install the wallet. That went well.
Then I started syncing, but after a while I needed to close it, because my laptop become very slow Undecided

Any ideas how to solve this? I'm sorry, I didn't read in this topic yet. Maybe there is a solution already.
If there isn't, i'm sorry, but then I won't be able to test out XMR and just stick with DASH.
I don't want to buy a faster laptop just to test a cryptocurrency.

Meanwhile I managed to test DASH and was wondering how Monero compares to that. Wasn't able to test it due to the problems with my wallet, but maybe someone else knows the details:

FYI: I had 2 DASH in my wallet so I could test out the features.
* Mixing my full balance took 3 hours. How long would it take to mix 10 XMR (about the same value)
* When I was mixing, the wallet showed that sometimes masternodes were idle (probably because they weren't upgraded). Is the mixing network of Monero faster?
* Doing a darksend transaction of +/- 1 DASH costed me 0.1 DASH. What is the fee for an XMR "darksend" ?

You've probably installed 0.8.8.6, which is very slow compared to the soon(tm) to be released new binaries (0.9). If you are on windows, there are already binaries available though -> https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

Regarding your points:
[1] Opposed to DASH, Monero uses on-chain mixing, so if you want to transfer funds the mixing kinda happens immediately and your transaction will be included into the next available block. Our blocktime is around 1 minute, so your transaction should be included pretty fast. Also, because mixing is passive, you don't need active others to mix with. More about how Monero's mixing works -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ojjkq/can_someone_help_me_understand_the_claims_of/cvxwq10

[2] See 1, it's significantly faster, because it allows passive mixing and thus doesn't need others to be active to mix.

[3] Monero uses a per-kb fee. Currently, the fee is 0.01 per kb. Usually the fee for a transaction is around 0.015-0.03 XMR.

cryptonewb

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Hi, it's me again.

I tried to download and install the wallet. That went well.
Then I started syncing, but after a while I needed to close it, because my laptop become very slow Undecided

Any ideas how to solve this? I'm sorry, I didn't read in this topic yet. Maybe there is a solution already.
If there isn't, i'm sorry, but then I won't be able to test out XMR and just stick with DASH.
I don't want to buy a faster laptop just to test a cryptocurrency.

Meanwhile I managed to test DASH and was wondering how Monero compares to that. Wasn't able to test it due to the problems with my wallet, but maybe someone else knows the details:

FYI: I had 2 DASH in my wallet so I could test out the features.
* Mixing my full balance took 3 hours. How long would it take to mix 10 XMR (about the same value)
* When I was mixing, the wallet showed that sometimes masternodes were idle (probably because they weren't upgraded). Is the mixing network of Monero faster?
* Doing a darksend transaction of +/- 1 DASH costed me 0.1 DASH. What is the fee for an XMR "darksend" ?

Creat0r

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Quote from: luigi1111 on October 14, 2015, 09:38:13 AM

Quote from: GingerAle on October 13, 2015, 05:33:42 PM

Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

the truth of the matter is, if you're really just holding, you can just run simplewallet, or use moneromoo's offline generator, to create an address, and then send funds to that address. Your account is just an entry in the blockchain - you don't need to actually run *anything*. The only reason you would need to run something is to transact, or to verify that your coins have been deposited.

But thats not entirely true, because recently luigi1111 made a thingy that can confirm that your transaction went through to a wallet you sent it to. It's not super user friendly... well, I don't know... I've never tried it.

Long story short, mymonero is fine, you don't need to run anything, but running something is always better (because it supports the network).

Is simplewallet bit agnostic?

I guess it's user friendly *enough*, though ugly (someone is working on it I hear). Actually I don't really see how you could make it much easier than it is now. Several people I know have used it with success for cold wallets.

The other function (proving a destination received some outputs) mooo has added to simplewallet now (not merged): https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/bitmonero/commit/46c7989854c07c26d8a31b5bdf266cc658a62119

no slight meant sir! I just meant that for those in need of a GUI, it might be a tall order. I should really just give it a shot though... perhaps make a video!! Sweet that moo integrated that into simplewallet. Simplewallet is going beyond simple. I'll rename my bin complexwallet

luigi1111

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Quote from: GingerAle on October 13, 2015, 05:33:42 PM

Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

the truth of the matter is, if you're really just holding, you can just run simplewallet, or use moneromoo's offline generator, to create an address, and then send funds to that address. Your account is just an entry in the blockchain - you don't need to actually run *anything*. The only reason you would need to run something is to transact, or to verify that your coins have been deposited.

But thats not entirely true, because recently luigi1111 made a thingy that can confirm that your transaction went through to a wallet you sent it to. It's not super user friendly... well, I don't know... I've never tried it.

Long story short, mymonero is fine, you don't need to run anything, but running something is always better (because it supports the network).

Is simplewallet bit agnostic?

I guess it's user friendly *enough*, though ugly (someone is working on it I hear). Actually I don't really see how you could make it much easier than it is now. Several people I know have used it with success for cold wallets.

The other function (proving a destination received some outputs) mooo has added to simplewallet now (not merged): https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/bitmonero/commit/46c7989854c07c26d8a31b5bdf266cc658a62119

Bagatell

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Quote from: Nik4691 on October 14, 2015, 09:03:10 AM

Quote from: Harpua on October 14, 2015, 08:59:03 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on October 14, 2015, 08:47:49 AM

I have a knoppix Linux boot CD for emergencies. Quite handy to have for emergencies.

What function would that serve to have it for "emergencies"? What would be classified as an emergency?

Repair/recover files from a Windows partition? Cheesy

Being able to use a computer at a friend or relatives that has half the screen covered in task bars.

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Quote from: Harpua on October 14, 2015, 08:59:03 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on October 14, 2015, 08:47:49 AM

I have a knoppix Linux boot CD for emergencies. Quite handy to have for emergencies.

What function would that serve to have it for "emergencies"? What would be classified as an emergency?

Repair/recover files from a Windows partition? Cheesy

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Spastic dead-eyed hound.

Quote from: Globb0 on October 14, 2015, 08:47:49 AM

I have a knoppix Linux boot CD for emergencies. Quite handy to have for emergencies.

What function would that serve to have it for "emergencies"? What would be classified as an emergency?

Globb0

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Free spirit

I have a knoppix Linux boot CD for emergencies. Quite handy to have for emergencies.

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Quote from: okane818 on October 14, 2015, 06:39:05 AM

Need XMR Windows Wallet 32Bit, Please provide.

Thank you.!

There is no official wallet. But there are several third party ones.

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Quote from: monero on April 24, 2014, 07:38:50 PM

Windows 32-bit binaries (0.8.8, updated: June 11th - outdated and not recommended until the embedded database is released)

This means that until a new release you should not use any Win32 wallet.

The only think I can propose to you if you are in this situation is the web wallet from mymonero.com

okane818

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Need XMR Windows Wallet 32Bit, Please provide.

Thank you.!

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Quote from: Harpua on October 14, 2015, 05:58:43 AM

Quote from: papa_lazzarou on October 14, 2015, 05:43:43 AM

Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

Have you thought about trying linux. Its not just because of crypto. Its just because it solves so many problems... Even those you might not realize you have Tongue

I would just imagine I would have to take a lot of time to learn command lines, which I really don't have extra time for... Plus the process of getting Linux on my computer seems complicated in terms of having to download it on a USB first. Plus I'm not quite sure if I have a spare 40 GB on my computer to run everything the way it's supposed too. Maybe during a rainy day I'll try to figure it all out... I'm just very illiterate when it comes to setting stuff up myself on computers.

it would honestly take you less than 1 hour. You don't need 40 gigs. U could get away with 10, even less if you didn't have to store the monero blockchain

Oh, and you don't need to know CLI. Ubuntu and other fan favorites all have GUIs.

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Quote from: papa_lazzarou on October 14, 2015, 05:43:43 AM

Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

Have you thought about trying linux. Its not just because of crypto. Its just because it solves so many problems... Even those you might not realize you have Tongue

I would just imagine I would have to take a lot of time to learn command lines, which I really don't have extra time for... Plus the process of getting Linux on my computer seems complicated in terms of having to download it on a USB first. Plus I'm not quite sure if I have a spare 40 GB on my computer to run everything the way it's supposed too. Maybe during a rainy day I'll try to figure it all out... I'm just very illiterate when it comes to setting stuff up myself on computers.

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Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

Have you thought about trying linux. Its not just because of crypto. Its just because it solves so many problems... Even those you might not realize you have Tongue

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Quote from: bitl0ck on October 13, 2015, 06:54:29 AM

MONERO's CUBE WALLET.

Silver made. PM me if any one is interested.

Alternative version for the cube wallet.

I am open to suggestions of the community.

GingerAle

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Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

Quote from: kazuki49 on October 13, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Quote from: cryptonewb on October 13, 2015, 03:09:13 PM

I will start downloading the monero wallet now so I can compare.

If you are on Windows make to sure to use the official beta of the new release that is comming: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

On linux, compile from git

ps: don't troll, we'll find out @_@ Cheesy

So I feel completely idiotic right now Tongue

... this whole time I've been having trouble running these programs on my windows for 64-bit because that's what I thought I had, only to realize that I think I have a 32-bit because when I finally took time to read the error message that comes up when trying to extract bitmonerod.exe or something of the sort it says that "this application is not Win32 compatible" ... sigh, I guess that's what I get for being very impatient with things.

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

the truth of the matter is, if you're really just holding, you can just run simplewallet, or use moneromoo's offline generator, to create an address, and then send funds to that address. Your account is just an entry in the blockchain - you don't need to actually run *anything*. The only reason you would need to run something is to transact, or to verify that your coins have been deposited.

But thats not entirely true, because recently luigi1111 made a thingy that can confirm that your transaction went through to a wallet you sent it to. It's not super user friendly... well, I don't know... I've never tried it.

Long story short, mymonero is fine, you don't need to run anything, but running something is always better (because it supports the network).

Is simplewallet bit agnostic?

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Quote from: Harpua on October 13, 2015, 03:30:20 PM

So I guess my question would be, is it worth it to try and run this stuff on my computer? Or should I just stick with buying monero and putting it into mymonero for holding?

If you are receiving that message, you are either using a 32-bit OS that is unsupported or you are downloading corrupted binaries every single time for some reason. Monero is still officially very alpha and its not your fault for having troubles. It only feels right telling you to do like I did, that is running Monero on Linux (but please make backups before trying to install any version - I recommend Ubuntu 14.04 or Mint 17.2). I have always been able to use the newest code on Linux and watch the evolution of this coin with my own eyes. I understand some are not confortable with Linux and unless you are just testing binaries I recommend not keeping your Monero on Windows (not even with mymonero). I still use mymonero as my hotwallet but I do not use it as cold wallet, I recommend you try to get used to Linux, this is a time for early adopters if Monero will ever be remotely mass-used. So answering your question I do think it is worth running this stuff but only on a PC you own and that is running GNU/Linux.

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