So you are arguing just to argue? What a waste.
The rest of us are here to warn unsuspecting noobs that BFL is a long con scam run by a convicted mail fraud felon who is far more interested in generating short term cash flow than delivering product to the people who pre ordered and never received them.
Topic: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL - page 12. (Read 45622 times)
Not if Josh doesn't stop playing around the forums with trolls. Doesn't he have shit to do like get product from the loading dock to a paying customer that cut the order line or something?
Hmm, the chips are ordered already, so they are outside of BFL's hands being manufactured by an outside company, yet if Josh is not hard at work the manufacturer will stop working too? Wow. Just wow.Do you suck Josh off with that mouth? Are you his lover? (only a lover could continue to defend him as you have).
You are mistaking my pointing out your outright fantasies and fallacies as defence. You could have been talking about BPM and Bicknel and I would have made the same comment. Grow up already.
Not if Josh doesn't stop playing around the forums with trolls. Doesn't he have shit to do like get product from the loading dock to a paying customer that cut the order line or something?
Hmm, the chips are ordered already, so they are outside of BFL's hands being manufactured by an outside company, yet if Josh is not hard at work the manufacturer will stop working too? Wow. Just wow.Do you suck Josh off with that mouth? Are you his lover? (only a lover could continue to defend him as you have).
If you have ordered from ButterFly Labs and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask ButterFly Labs for a refund, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. Multiple customers have already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via Bitcoin or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC at http://www.ftc.gov/complaint and they will advocate for you with ButterFly Labs to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.
You can also do a paper filing with the DA here: http://da.jocogov.org/complaint-forms
There are also several threads on how to get a refund from ButterFly Labs, here are two:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yes-you-can-get-a-refund-from-bfl-266945
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-did-everything-they-could-to-make-getting-a-refund-impossible-272585
First ask ButterFly Labs for a refund, they will probably say no but you might get lucky.
If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. Multiple customers have already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via Bitcoin or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC at http://www.ftc.gov/complaint and they will advocate for you with ButterFly Labs to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.
You can also do a paper filing with the DA here: http://da.jocogov.org/complaint-forms
There are also several threads on how to get a refund from ButterFly Labs, here are two:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yes-you-can-get-a-refund-from-bfl-266945
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-did-everything-they-could-to-make-getting-a-refund-impossible-272585
Not if Josh doesn't stop playing around the forums with trolls. Doesn't he have shit to do like get product from the loading dock to a paying customer that cut the order line or something?
Hmm, the chips are ordered already, so they are outside of BFL's hands being manufactured by an outside company, yet if Josh is not hard at work the manufacturer will stop working too? Wow. Just wow. 
Not if Josh doesn't stop playing around the forums with trolls. Doesn't he have shit to do like get product from the loading dock to a paying customer that cut the order line or something?
BFL will make it in time, right?
You just know they will...(I hope)
You just know they will...(I hope)
What has happened with BFL chips? Were they on time?
What has happened with BFL chips? Were they on time?
I don't think the shipping date has arrived yet.*edit*
Chips sales started Jun 15, so mid September would be the 100 days.
What has happened with BFL chips? Were they on time?
What happened with Terrahash that they are receiving refund complaints?
Yifu happened to TH.
He means we are ALL waiting for the million chips to arrive in the mail... still no sign. No ROI and now people are selling off lots of 10K at 50% off... oh that be the issue for any DIY team right now. Most will probably implode in the next week or two as a result. Sad.
Specifically check out any of the DIY thread or group chip buys... it is starting to get ugly.
Only 50% reduction? Buyers should hold out for alot less.
I will go check out the Group Buys.
This is what I love most. Start-up after start-up fails yet people cling to the next new thing out there and denounce everything else. Everybody uses the LONG CON example on BFL. Ok, so maybe they are a long con, does that make every other company legit?
No, but BFL has been giving new schedules and then failing to meet them for months on end now. Also, they are insulting and dismissive of any and all complaints. Those are two very serious red flags for scams, so many people think BFL is a scam.
The 100TH/s mining pool delay was due to their boards that they designed having issues, not Bitfury chips having issues. There are several deployments of Bitfury that are successful.
Avalon has failed to get their chips into the hands of developers of a lot of the English speaking DIY. There have been photos of Avalon chip batches arriving from multiple sources but there is no getting around the fact that a large chunk of DIY projects are ruined by the delay. It is impossible to know the cause of the delay at this time, but eventually more evidence will come to light and then we can start speculating. Right now, all that I am aware of is the chips supposedly left Yifu's hands but never arrived in the customers.
Which chips?
This is what I love most. Start-up after start-up fails yet people cling to the next new thing out there and denounce everything else. Everybody uses the LONG CON example on BFL. Ok, so maybe they are a long con, does that make every other company legit?
No, but BFL has been giving new schedules and then failing to meet them for months on end now. Also, they are insulting and dismissive of any and all complaints. Those are two very serious red flags for scams, so many people think BFL is a scam.
The 100TH/s mining pool delay was due to their boards that they designed having issues, not Bitfury chips having issues. There are several deployments of Bitfury that are successful.
Avalon has failed to get their chips into the hands of developers of a lot of the English speaking DIY. There have been photos of Avalon chip batches arriving from multiple sources but there is no getting around the fact that a large chunk of DIY projects are ruined by the delay. It is impossible to know the cause of the delay at this time, but eventually more evidence will come to light and then we can start speculating. Right now, all that I am aware of is the chips supposedly left Yifu's hands but never arrived in the customers.
Which chips?
This is what I love most. Start-up after start-up fails yet people cling to the next new thing out there and denounce everything else. Everybody uses the LONG CON example on BFL. Ok, so maybe they are a long con, does that make every other company legit?
No, but BFL has been giving new schedules and then failing to meet them for months on end now. Also, they are insulting and dismissive of any and all complaints. Those are two very serious red flags for scams, so many people think BFL is a scam.
The 100TH/s mining pool delay was due to their boards that they designed having issues, not Bitfury chips having issues. There are several deployments of Bitfury that are successful.
Avalon has failed to get their chips into the hands of developers of a lot of the English speaking DIY. There have been photos of Avalon chip batches arriving from multiple sources but there is no getting around the fact that a large chunk of DIY projects are ruined by the delay. It is impossible to know the cause of the delay at this time, but eventually more evidence will come to light and then we can start speculating. Right now, all that I am aware of is the chips supposedly left Yifu's hands but never arrived in the customers.
This is what I love most. Start-up after start-up fails yet people cling to the next new thing out there and denounce everything else. Everybody uses the LONG CON example on BFL. Ok, so maybe they are a long con, does that make every other company legit?
No, but BFL has been giving new schedules and then failing to meet them for months on end now. Also, they are insulting and dismissive of any and all complaints. Those are two very serious red flags for scams, so many people think BFL is a scam.
The 100TH/s mining pool delay was due to their boards that they designed having issues, not Bitfury chips having issues. There are several deployments of Bitfury that are successful.
Avalon has failed to get their chips into the hands of developers of a lot of the English speaking DIY. There have been photos of Avalon chip batches arriving from multiple sources but there is no getting around the fact that a large chunk of DIY projects are ruined by the delay. It is impossible to know the cause of the delay at this time, but eventually more evidence will come to light and then we can start speculating. Right now, all that I am aware of is the chips supposedly left Yifu's hands but never arrived in the customers.
What happened with Terrahash that they are receiving refund complaints?
Yifu happened to TH.
He means we are ALL waiting for the million chips to arrive in the mail... still no sign. No ROI and now people are selling off lots of 10K at 50% off... oh that be the issue for any DIY team right now. Most will probably implode in the next week or two as a result. Sad.
Specifically check out any of the DIY thread or group chip buys... it is starting to get ugly.
I guess at this moment the only TRUE option is ASICMiner, and with their prices, they got you by the balls.
What happened with Terrahash that they are receiving refund complaints?
Yifu happened to TH.
He means we are ALL waiting for the million chips to arrive in the mail... still no sign. No ROI and now people are selling off lots of 10K at 50% off... oh that be the issue for any DIY team right now. Most will probably implode in the next week or two as a result. Sad.
Specifically check out any of the DIY thread or group chip buys... it is starting to get ugly.
What happened with Terrahash that they are receiving refund complaints?
Yifu happened to TH.
i did that a couple of weeks ago, i got the standard "No" form letter. I really want my equipment more than the money though so i let it ride for now.
And that's why con men never go out of business... there's always some clueless fool.Jump to: