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Topic: You got a pifzer ? Then you can be eligible for lottery in Poland. (Read 3006 times)

legendary
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So what? Do you now propose to do both vaccinations (Modern and Pfizer) at the same time? In addition, we still do not get away from the fact that even a vaccinated person can be a carrier of the virus and in him it can mutate (and produce more deadly strains), albeit with a lower intensity.
Well, the level of protection actually looks dubious, given that millions of people get sick, protection by 76 percent reduces the overall picture of the incidence weakly - maybe it only slows down the spread of the virus a little. In any case, this does not look like a "final solution" and a way to defeat the virus.
By the way, what will we do when the next strain appears, against which both Modern and Pfizer will be even weaker?

Do you have a solution other than vaccination? Even an efficacy of 76% is significant. That means four times less people who are infected with the virus. And that also means that the spread of the virus can be contained, as the infected are less likely to infect others. If you look at the current situation in the United States, the regions with largest number of active cases are states like Arkansas, where the vaccination rate is very low. The chances of further mutations decrease, if there are less number of carriers of the virus. So even a 76% reduction is OK for me.
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Alot of people have no trust for government, especially when the party in power is not one they voted for.  In this way its quite normal for at least half of a country to question anything stated by an opposing power to which they believe in.   The unfortunate problem is when knowledge is lost because of distrust and the state is not independent of any corruption by various ideologies that create noise in any news.  Its not rare, the world all over has this dynamic.

Another thing that slows the vaccinations, those doubts coming from the opposition  corrupting
the mindsets of other people and influenced them not to agree with how the government is trying to prevent the spread.

We see a lots of incident like this in so many countries, instead of fighting together with this virus political agendas are everywhere,
trying to put down the current government, blaming that they are not working well to resolve this problem.

With how Poland is trying, partnering with Pfizer they can attract and reached those who wanted to try their luck in winning the pot.
legendary
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No. I can assume that you are not following the latest news on this topic. Even Israeli officials recently made a statement that universal vaccination is not a total solution to the coronavirus issue. And they say this on the basis of the actual situation that has developed in their country, although even before that, many people stated the same. If you are interested, check this information from any source from which you are comfortable. In addition, in general, the idea that you can vaccinate everyone and stop mutations is a utopia. The virus mutation rate is very high and it occurs even in vaccinated carriers.

As per published figures, Moderna offers 76% protection against the most contagious strain of COVID 19 (and almost 100% protection against death from the virus). That means that vaccinated people are far safer, when compared to the unvaccinated ones. And even in the US, most of the deaths have been reported from the section of the population which refused to get vaccinated. Fully vaccinated (more than half of the population) accounted for less than 1% of the deaths in May 2021. You can check this article:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

So what? Do you now propose to do both vaccinations (Modern and Pfizer) at the same time? In addition, we still do not get away from the fact that even a vaccinated person can be a carrier of the virus and in him it can mutate (and produce more deadly strains), albeit with a lower intensity.
Well, the level of protection actually looks dubious, given that millions of people get sick, protection by 76 percent reduces the overall picture of the incidence weakly - maybe it only slows down the spread of the virus a little. In any case, this does not look like a "final solution" and a way to defeat the virus.
By the way, what will we do when the next strain appears, against which both Modern and Pfizer will be even weaker?
hero member
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Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who decide not to get a vaccination. I don't really understand what's going on with those people. The pandemic will never end because of them. They are egoists. Have no other word for it. Unless due to circumstances they can't make it.
And that's why countries like Poland and other countries are encouraging and giving them a free thing to take if they take the vaccine.

It's a matter of mind set by the government and also by those people who care for the welfare of others.

I think it's not about the mind set, but more about economics and politics. In a country where state hospitals are free for everyone, it is much better to persuade people to get vaccinated by doing lotteries than to pay for their hospitalization later when the wave of infection returns.
On the other hand, it obviously improves the political image when so many businesses fail.
legendary
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It is so fucking stupid, I wonder if anybody got vaccinated just because there was a lottery going on.

This is just like how Biden offered $100 to those who are willing to take the vaccine. They are laughing at your face, they are insulting you and people are actually OK with this.

Now they named a price, I guess we can start negotiating. The opening bid was $100 from Biden in USA and its a lottery ticket in Poland.

I have to disagree with you. I know people who would be encouraged to take the vaccine, if a lottery ticket is being given as a complimentary gift. Those who are stubbornly against the vaccine would refuse anyway, but these steps will encourage a lot of those who are on the fence. A few months back, there was a similar measure in the US state of Ohio. And the results were very encouraging. After the lottery ("Vax a million") was announced, there was a steep jump in daily vaccination rates and it helped the vaccination rate in Ohio to surpass the national average. 
legendary
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why would person need to take the vaccine just to join the lottery ? this is only fooling people because we knew how hard to even win in lottery lol.

It is so fucking stupid, I wonder if anybody got vaccinated just because there was a lottery going on.

This is just like how Biden offered $100 to those who are willing to take the vaccine. They are laughing at your face, they are insulting you and people are actually OK with this.

Now they named a price, I guess we can start negotiating. The opening bid was $100 from Biden in USA and its a lottery ticket in Poland.
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Alot of people have no trust for government, especially when the party in power is not one they voted for.  In this way its quite normal for at least half of a country to question anything stated by an opposing power to which they believe in.   The unfortunate problem is when knowledge is lost because of distrust and the state is not independent of any corruption by various ideologies that create noise in any news.  Its not rare, the world all over has this dynamic.
it is normal to have Opposition in every government because this separate the decision making towards anticipating others more than the favor . but the thing here is we are talking about lives in which being spared because of ignorance of the vaccine.
and also listening to those spreads wrong information in regards to the effect and benefits of the virus.
but what i see here is why would person need to take the vaccine just to join the lottery ? this is only fooling people because we knew how hard to even win in lottery lol.
STT
legendary
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Alot of people have no trust for government, especially when the party in power is not one they voted for.  In this way its quite normal for at least half of a country to question anything stated by an opposing power to which they believe in.   The unfortunate problem is when knowledge is lost because of distrust and the state is not independent of any corruption by various ideologies that create noise in any news.  Its not rare, the world all over has this dynamic.
legendary
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There's really a lot of tricks to convince people to get vaccinated, I was curious what other countries tricks in order to convince their citizens to have the vaccine. It seems that many people are not interested on having the vaccine that's why they need something like this to convince people.

If covid is a real thing then there would be no need for "encouraging people" to take a vaccine! But covid and all this shit is just one big trick from powerful people on the top, and I see many "brainwashed" people here making ridiculous comments!

Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who decide not to get a vaccination. I don't really understand what's going on with those people. The pandemic will never end because of them. They are egoists. Have no other word for it. Unless due to circumstances they can't make it.

So you took that vaccine and now you are judging all others... It is a funny thing how religious/nationalistic/or any other fanatics remind me on covid fanatics! You are ready to blow entire cities, with all the people who live there, just to prove your worthless point!

Nothing is going with me... I am healthy and well, why would I take that vaccine? And don't sell me some mambo jumbo things you saw on TV who are earning on that vaccine and this entire situation! I am not their slave, I mean I am like anyone else, but there are some limits...

In the end, this new vaccinated-unvaccinated war is made up! It's what they want, to separate people even more! Separated people can't unite and without unity, there are no big changes... I can't believe that so many people fall on this covid crap!
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Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who decide not to get a vaccination. I don't really understand what's going on with those people. The pandemic will never end because of them. They are egoists. Have no other word for it. Unless due to circumstances they can't make it.
You don't understand because you are not in their shoes , you don't feel their body and you have no idea what they are going through .
There are people that has already having medical issues and they are afraid that they will not survive the vaccine as the side effects will eventually come.
and also this vaccine knows to be dangerous at some point to those who has week body so what is the different of dying in Covid and dying in vaccine? at east they can decide not to die in vaccine and if even they got infected then that would be their nightmare .
hero member
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There's really a lot of tricks to convince people to get vaccinated, I was curious what other countries tricks in order to convince their citizens to have the vaccine. It seems that many people are not interested on having the vaccine that's why they need something like this to convince people.
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Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who decide not to get a vaccination. I don't really understand what's going on with those people. The pandemic will never end because of them. They are egoists. Have no other word for it. Unless due to circumstances they can't make it.
And that's why countries like Poland and other countries are encouraging and giving them a free thing to take if they take the vaccine.

It's a matter of mind set by the government and also by those people who care for the welfare of others.
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I hope you are kidding? Why would I read these childish excuses like "the delta variant dog ate my homework"?
The virus mutates all the time and a vaccine that works well against one strain is rubbish. And by killing one strain, you immediately open the way for all others who were "oppressed" by the more widespread strain. It's an endless loop. By the way, do you think that in the future you will have to do a thousand vaccinations against each strain separately?

If the population is fully vaccinated and herd immunity is achieved, then the virus will stop infecting humans and the mutations will stop. The reason why we had delta strain in the first place was that during the initial stages, the developed nations hoarded all the vaccines, leaving poor nations with a vaccine shortage. If you remember, the more fatal strains emerged almost 15 months after the appearance of the original strain. There was enough time to vaccinate everyone, but it was not done. And right now, there is no option apart from getting vaccinated, to stay alive.

No. I can assume that you are not following the latest news on this topic. Even Israeli officials recently made a statement that universal vaccination is not a total solution to the coronavirus issue. And they say this on the basis of the actual situation that has developed in their country, although even before that, many people stated the same. If you are interested, check this information from any source from which you are comfortable. In addition, in general, the idea that you can vaccinate everyone and stop mutations is a utopia. The virus mutation rate is very high and it occurs even in vaccinated carriers.
That is what I most fear. Delta variation is already terrifying enough, but the virus can still get more powerful and we don't know where this is going to end. Vaccines are temporary palliatives, but they don't fully protect the individual or stop new mutations. A proof of this fact are the yearly vaccines for common flu, which don't prevent people from getting sick or the flu itself from existing.
Another thing I think it's an absurd is how the world's countries and WHO in special don't confront China for developing the virus. quite the opposite, there is already an agenda manufacturing the theory that covid19 isn't lab made, didn't come from China and they have nothing to do with this. It's totally negligent to let China unpunished for this crime, because they will feel free and loose to keep doing their experients with biological weapons until a similar or worse leak happen again...
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People are afraid of the needle that will inject into their body because they think it will hurt.
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The government needs to promote their programs while educating their people but do not force them to vaccinate because they really do not want it.
I think only the fewest vaccination refusers are actually afraid of the needle but of the active substances in the vaccination itself - whether justified or not is of course open to question.

With your last sentence I agree with you, of course, coercion is never a propate way to convince the population. However, countries such as Germany are already introducing compulsory vaccination through the back door, where in the near future people will no longer be allowed to participate in public life without proof of vaccination above a certain incidence.
If they still doubt the active substances in the vaccination, those people can ask their doctor or health center for more explanations.
It is hard if the government forces their people to get vaccinated while they are still afraid or doubt the program.
The governments need to think the other methods how to explain to them.
If everything becomes forcing them to vaccinate, I think sooner or later, a demo might happen in many countries as people will think that they can take care of their health and do not want to vaccinate.
I hope that people can open their minds about the vaccine and not stubbornly receive the right information about it and not get wrong or can think twice about the wrong issue.
The hope from those who value life emerges to fasten the vaccinations,

They wanted to lessen or slow the spread, vaccination help but if even the majority already have it, there's still no assurance that the virus will not continue, mutations as we seen it happened with this Delta variant, even those who already vaccinated are not secure not being a carrier and spread it from those who still don't have the vaccines, this action from the government of giving incentive should also have demos or advertisement what value vaccines will add to protect lives.
If they are already vaccinated, they still need to take care of themselves and not go out if they do not have urgent things to prevent the risk.
We still need to wait for further information from the government as a regulator and hopefully, they will give something good news to us.
Hopefully, the existing variant will not mutate into a new one and we can still live healthily and not worry about the virus anymore.
Or if there are a new variant comes out, we already build a new immune to prevent the variant.
But better to communicate with your doctor or discuss with the health representative to know more details about the vaccine so you will not get the wrong information.
legendary
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No. I can assume that you are not following the latest news on this topic. Even Israeli officials recently made a statement that universal vaccination is not a total solution to the coronavirus issue. And they say this on the basis of the actual situation that has developed in their country, although even before that, many people stated the same. If you are interested, check this information from any source from which you are comfortable. In addition, in general, the idea that you can vaccinate everyone and stop mutations is a utopia. The virus mutation rate is very high and it occurs even in vaccinated carriers.

As per published figures, Moderna offers 76% protection against the most contagious strain of COVID 19 (and almost 100% protection against death from the virus). That means that vaccinated people are far safer, when compared to the unvaccinated ones. And even in the US, most of the deaths have been reported from the section of the population which refused to get vaccinated. Fully vaccinated (more than half of the population) accounted for less than 1% of the deaths in May 2021. You can check this article:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
legendary
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People are afraid of the needle that will inject into their body because they think it will hurt.
-snip-
The government needs to promote their programs while educating their people but do not force them to vaccinate because they really do not want it.
I think only the fewest vaccination refusers are actually afraid of the needle but of the active substances in the vaccination itself - whether justified or not is of course open to question.

With your last sentence I agree with you, of course, coercion is never a propate way to convince the population. However, countries such as Germany are already introducing compulsory vaccination through the back door, where in the near future people will no longer be allowed to participate in public life without proof of vaccination above a certain incidence.
If they still doubt the active substances in the vaccination, those people can ask their doctor or health center for more explanations.
It is hard if the government forces their people to get vaccinated while they are still afraid or doubt the program.
The governments need to think the other methods how to explain to them.
If everything becomes forcing them to vaccinate, I think sooner or later, a demo might happen in many countries as people will think that they can take care of their health and do not want to vaccinate.
I hope that people can open their minds about the vaccine and not stubbornly receive the right information about it and not get wrong or can think twice about the wrong issue.
The hope from those who value life emerges to fasten the vaccinations,

They wanted to lessen or slow the spread, vaccination help but if even the majority already have it, there's still no assurance that the virus will not continue, mutations as we seen it happened with this Delta variant, even those who already vaccinated are not secure not being a carrier and spread it from those who still don't have the vaccines, this action from the government of giving incentive should also have demos or advertisement what value vaccines will add to protect lives.
legendary
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I hope you are kidding? Why would I read these childish excuses like "the delta variant dog ate my homework"?
The virus mutates all the time and a vaccine that works well against one strain is rubbish. And by killing one strain, you immediately open the way for all others who were "oppressed" by the more widespread strain. It's an endless loop. By the way, do you think that in the future you will have to do a thousand vaccinations against each strain separately?

If the population is fully vaccinated and herd immunity is achieved, then the virus will stop infecting humans and the mutations will stop. The reason why we had delta strain in the first place was that during the initial stages, the developed nations hoarded all the vaccines, leaving poor nations with a vaccine shortage. If you remember, the more fatal strains emerged almost 15 months after the appearance of the original strain. There was enough time to vaccinate everyone, but it was not done. And right now, there is no option apart from getting vaccinated, to stay alive.

No. I can assume that you are not following the latest news on this topic. Even Israeli officials recently made a statement that universal vaccination is not a total solution to the coronavirus issue. And they say this on the basis of the actual situation that has developed in their country, although even before that, many people stated the same. If you are interested, check this information from any source from which you are comfortable. In addition, in general, the idea that you can vaccinate everyone and stop mutations is a utopia. The virus mutation rate is very high and it occurs even in vaccinated carriers.
legendary
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Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people who decide not to get a vaccination. I don't really understand what's going on with those people. The pandemic will never end because of them. They are egoists. Have no other word for it. Unless due to circumstances they can't make it.
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That's some good promotion, some people really don't like to get vaccinated because of fear what could be the effect after they get vaccinated. Rather than forcing people to get vaccinated this kind of promotion is really great first thing you will get vaccine which will protect you from the virus and after that you still have chance to win a lottery you could be a very lucky person if you managed to win on the lottery.
lol this is a bribe to make people try their luck but you as human who believes that Vaccine is risk to your life , would you still try that lottery even if you think that can be your death will be the next?

we know what our capacity and care about our life , and having this bribe just to have that vaccine luring small people than interested.
I doubt that because they will not risk their lives to be vaccinated. That is what people might do when they do not believe in the government and will go to someplace that they will not get pursued by the government to go to the health centre or a place that only them know. They believe that getting vaccinated or not is a choice and they choose not to get vaccinated because they doubt the vaccine can protect their lives.

In this matter, the government need to use different approaches to explain to them and not use their power to force that person to vaccinate. The government does not have to use the lottery because as long as they want to get vaccinated, the lottery will not be the primary thing for them.
legendary
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I hope you are kidding? Why would I read these childish excuses like "the delta variant dog ate my homework"?
The virus mutates all the time and a vaccine that works well against one strain is rubbish. And by killing one strain, you immediately open the way for all others who were "oppressed" by the more widespread strain. It's an endless loop. By the way, do you think that in the future you will have to do a thousand vaccinations against each strain separately?

If the population is fully vaccinated and herd immunity is achieved, then the virus will stop infecting humans and the mutations will stop. The reason why we had delta strain in the first place was that during the initial stages, the developed nations hoarded all the vaccines, leaving poor nations with a vaccine shortage. If you remember, the more fatal strains emerged almost 15 months after the appearance of the original strain. There was enough time to vaccinate everyone, but it was not done. And right now, there is no option apart from getting vaccinated, to stay alive.
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