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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 326. (Read 1009280 times)

legendary
Activity: 1318
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We are scratching our heads over gambling and its definition.
Seems to me, that the real problems of ZEIT have been solved.

There is so much we have to do in the future. I believe we should save our energy for our priorities.
I personally see no sense in such discussions.

Keep on focusing on the goals, not focusing the non-goals.

Cheers,
Ray
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
Nobody - certainly not me - is saying that what any individual chooses to do with their own coins is any business but their own.

What HAS been said, very clearly, is that there should be no 'official' promotion or support for gambling.
legendary
Activity: 1318
Merit: 1036
Unless I missed a meeting, there is NOTHING in those principles which would countenance the support or promotion of anything to do with gambling.

copied from our official OP:

Games
http://zeit.cryptoraffles.com/

Site seems to be down. I think it was some kind of lottery.
We're not able to control what the people will do with their zeit.
ZEIT is an open currency and if someone make the decision to add ZEIT to an online casino, we cannot prevent this.

The Knights can use ZEIT for their noble intentions, but that's all we can do. ZEIT itself is not under any control. It's P2P.

For example: The Knights can also use Mintcoin for their targets instead.
The Mintcoin community can do nothing. It's an open currency.

ZEIT is free.

PS:
The Knight has been bought from Dreamstime.com.
It's not my work.
Link

Cheers,
Ray


hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
NICE artwork, Ray Grin

As always ... Good job  Smiley

I've already re-posted it on Facebook, Twatter & CoinBlab Grin
full member
Activity: 163
Merit: 100
I realy hate the" gambling" discussion.
If we have the counsel we will made a democratic vote.

Fair point. But we should really define our terms and build on solid ground. What people do with their Zeitcoins is their own business. If there are sites out there that use Zeitcoins, that also is their business. Life is a gamble, but my personal opinion is that invitations to addictive gambling should not appear on any of the Zeitcoin websites. I note that two other posts have come in while writing this, but here goes:

I can't state this strongly enough: I, for one, do not wish to be associated with anything 'tacky' and for Zeitcoin to explicitly encourage gambling, it would strike me as being exactly that - tacky. I like to be associated with quality.

Being part of a group of like-minded people is also important. The boundaries and cornerstones of group 'principles', the word Lion used, should be established early on, not avoided. That's what I assume we have been and are doing. Mitras, I don't include you in this because I think that you are genuine and that we may be speaking at cross-purposes - but speaking for myself, I would not want to belong to a group that was 'unprincipled'. I wouldn't know whether to turn my back, or not.

Neither am I desperate enough to have to stoop to exploiting other people's weaknesses. Zeitcoin facilitating gambling? Not for me. Zeitcoin doesn't need it. It hasn't done other coins any good, has it? Quark? Maxcoin?  I believe Zeitcoin is intrinsicly strong and will rise on its own merit. Quality and principles are part of merit.
legendary
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hero member
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Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
hero member
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hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
I realy hate the" gambling" discussion.
If we have the counsel we will made a democratic vote.

What will you do, Mitras, if PRIOR to the formation of the knights, a set of principles are established that preclude such things from even being voted on?

 - I still see, on the coins' official page & in the OP, that this coin is supposed to MEAN something:-

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We are an active community of like-minded individuals who believe in TZM's principles

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We are dedicated to building up this community with the goal of bringing cryptocurrencies into the world of activism.

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A revolutionary crypto resource made in homage to the Zeitgeist Movement..

Unless I missed a meeting, there is NOTHING in those principles which would countenance the support or promotion of anything to do with gambling.

If you don't respect & support those principles, perhaps it is you who are in the wrong place, not me?
member
Activity: 76
Merit: 10
I realy hate the" gambling" discussion.
If we have the counsel we will made a democratic vote.

hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
Kiklo, I would like to add this to your suggested to-do list. Full support of Lion in that Zeitcoin is not to be associated with anything that exploits, or encourages destructive, addictive behaviour, such as gambling.

That for me is also a no-no.

That is very much appreciated. If we have no principles, how can we 'stand for' anything & expect to be believed?
full member
Activity: 163
Merit: 100
Kiklo, I would like to add this to your suggested to-do list. Full support of Lion in that Zeitcoin is not to be associated with anything that exploits, or encourages destructive, addictive behaviour, such as gambling.

That for me is also a no-no.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
It's amazing what you are doing here !
Zeitcoin is here to stay !
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Place the word slogan at the top of your post , if you want it added to the list.


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hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500

1. Zeit will have its time.
2. Give Zeit some time.
sr. member
Activity: 319
Merit: 250
Open your eyes, and you will have Zeit!
uki
legendary
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Merit: 1000
cryptojunk bag holder
one more slogan proposal:
The time (ZEIT) is now!
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
ZEITKNIGHTS
Jan 31., 2015
Become a legendary zeight (zeitknight) and help us to help others.
Registration is open for 4 weeks in February, 4 weeks in June, 4 weeks in October.

Currently there are 3 active members.
Rent-A-Ray     |   LionOfNarnia       |  Kiklo    |

Zeit-Knights
Sword & Shield
Donate 10% of their interest stake to help others and fund the Zeit-Games & Faucet.
Design & Commission of New Wallets
OverSee Games Design and Monitor Games Sites

Zeit-Games
(Online Game Designers will work closely with the Zeit-Knights.)
(Online Role Play Game that allows player to Spend & Receive Zeit in & outside the game)
(Zeit-Knights will fund specific amount of zeit monthly to be used for the ZEIT Game)
(Also we will setup a ZEIT Game Links on the Web Site & in the Forums.)

Slogans
"Zeit : "Helping the Innocent and Innovation"                  submitted by Rent-A-Ray
“Zeitcoin: based on the Zeitgeist ethos.”                       submitted by BainbridgeJ
"In Zeit We Trust"                                                      submitted by LionOfNarnia
"Out of Zeit - Out of Mind"                                           submitted by LionOfNarnia
"Zeit : "Innovation for the Innocent"                              submitted by LionOfNarnia
" die Zeit ist hier 'the time is here "                                submitted by Podizzle
"The time (ZEIT) is now!"                                             submitted by UKI


Goals , Long & Short Range for Consideration
Wallets: Option to Combine Blocks, Automatically            submitted by Zels
Wallet Block explorer / Chatrooms / Exchange Link           submitted by Podizzle
Build, or Transform an Existing City                               submitted by BitcoinNational
A Directory of Services/Items for sale using Zeitcoins       submitted by BainbridgeJ  
ZEIT Friendly Tourist Location Listings
Making The Zeitcoin Council A Legal entity                     submitted by BainbridgeJ  
Commission an Android Wallet for Zeitcoin                      submitted by kiklo
Exchange Zeit for Preloaded Gift Cards                          submitted by kiklo
Site for buying and selling 3D printing blueprints              submitted by Atronite
Merchandise shop stickers, wallpapers, Watermarks         submitted by Mitras
Charity & Crowdfunding Projects                                  submitted by Rent-A-Ray
Picture shop selling commercial pictures for Zeitcoins       submitted by Rent-A-Ray

Submit a Slogan or express a Goal you would like completed by ZeitKnights
(Included the word Slogan in your Post so we know to add it to the list)
Submit a Unit Description & what function you think it would fill in the ZeitKnights.
Submit an idea for a Zeitcoin Game.

The ZeitKnight's End Game,
To make this World a Better Place for All who reside in it.
By making zeitcoin into a tool that can help someone next door or someone across the world.

Requirements:
All Members must have 100 million Zeitcoins as a requirement of being part of the Zeit-Knights.
Members with more than 100 million zeit may proxy any extra to someone else to be considered for entry on the Zeit-Knights. (Lion working out the Proxy regulations)

Soon to be Listed under Completed Goals
Thanks to Efforts of Rent-A-Ray
New Wallets to speed up the Zeit Wallet Load time: submitted by UKI

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hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500

Ok. I will change all your Cryptsy-ZEIT into ZEIT.
Gimme 100 Mil of your Cryptsy-ZEIT, i will give you 50 Mil real ZEIT.
 Grin

Guys, keep cool...

People should just move their funds off exchanges if not actively trading, like they should be doing anyway.

Someone bought some nice sells on cryptsy today. I was hoping those would stay up for a while and shake out some loose coins.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000

Ok. I will change all your Cryptsy-ZEIT into ZEIT.
Gimme 100 Mil of your Cryptsy-ZEIT, i will give you 50 Mil real ZEIT.
 Grin

LOL ,

Now that is Funny!!!  Cheesy

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