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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 376. (Read 1009280 times)

legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
zeitcoins charm (and other coins) was teh great fun to be had mining it during the proof of work phase, the effort to get it listed, and the anticipation of the transition of proof of stake. the thrill is gone.

Well, the thrill has been gone from Bitcoin for a while now and it is still sought after. So much so that people are willing to knowingly and unremorsefully scam people just to get it. But it is still going strong. There is nothing new or cool about Bitcoin. What's the difference? I don't think that Zeit should be based solely on the "thrill" of mining or getting it listed on exchanges. Those things are all fine and dandy, but not everything.

If I'm not mistaken, Darkcoin is strictly POS now and it is very much in demand. They don't have any more bells and whistles than Zeit does. The only difference I see is that Darkcoin doesn't have huge sell walls bogging the price down and not letting it go anywhere. Darkcoin didn't have a bunch of idiots who dumped the price right back down to 2 satoshi when it jumped up to 10+ satoshi after the multipool came online like what happened with Zeit. And yes, I know the whole supply and demand thing has a huge influence on the price of Darkcoin. They have far less total coinage than we do. But they had their share of controversy in the beginning with their huge premine that went to a select few people. Zeit never had that. Zeit's premine was used for giveaways and promotion of the coin.

So again, I don't think that Zeit not having a mining thrill factor anymore has anything to do with this issue we are facing. We need to attract buyers with lots of BTC to spare to buy up those huge sell walls. And I doubt that any big money investor will care if it is still minable or not. I would think they would care more about pumping up the price and keeping it stable and then letting their wallet do the work for them.

I know there are members of the community who are perfectly happy with the price being so low. But I know that for Zeit to ever be taken seriously as a viable altcurrency that it has to have value. Right now we are hurting because there were too many dumpers and not enough buyers. That's what need to change. And to do that we have to promote the coin. It already has plenty of bells and whistles. It needs buyers.
full member
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I think the first mistake was moving all zeit discussing over to it's own forum, many of us here are checking threads (when they're active)... and lot of people thought nothing was happening so lost interest...

@CapSER2.0

What is the plan? you need to give us something so we know what were getting into... you can gain interest without details.
member
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my current zeitcoin PoS is now equal to the daily mining of LTC by two HD5850 day.  While the price for ZEITCOIN equals to 0.00000001 sat
hero member
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zeitcoins charm (and other coins) was teh great fun to be had mining it during the proof of work phase, the effort to get it listed, and the anticipation of the transition of proof of stake. the thrill is gone.
sr. member
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I`m staying in too.Some times i thought that i have to dump them but no.I`m here and i`m in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin Grin Grin
full member
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Andreas Antonopoulos put it well when he said that 2014 is Bitcoin's year. All the altcoins can forget it for now. Their time will come. They will be pulled along later by Bitcoin's rise. As the price of Bitcoin rises again, so the price of other coins fall in comparison. In my opinion, the only thing Zeitcoin needs is better public awareness of how good it really is. That should come in time. Zeitcoin has an advanced wallet that, in my experience, works well. A few days ago, I received my first minting payment for doing nothing other than opening my wallet every now and then. That's what fully Proof of Stake means. No inefficient mining. Just open the wallet and you are periodically rewarded for doing virtually nothing. Once people find out how good Zeitcoin really is, the price will rise. Perhaps some of us don't want that to happen just yet, while steadily buying up the coin at a ridiculously low price. The coin is good. Cultivating awareness by spreading the word and marketing is the next stage. The time fortunes are made are during depressions when prices are low and most people sell out. My investment is modest. I like the the odds. I'm staying in!
legendary
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Community is waking up, nice to see. Thank you Mintpal and good morning.  Wink
newbie
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Just a few words to give my opinion about the whole strategy as far as i can see it...

People who invest themselves, working hard on Zeitcoin community maybe have made a mistake. Let me explain... they wanted the community to be strong, united (this is a very good idea) and don't take that much care about its value. BUT the fact is that we are in the cryptocurrency world where people are interested about money ! While the value decreased, people lose interest slowly but steadily !
If we want Zeit to be that strong WE must first take care about its value, stabilize it at a reasonnable value, than this will make people to start paying attention ! And then if the community demonstrate the strenghtness that we are so comfident about then people will stay and make this community even bigger and stronger for the long time project that is behind this coin ! i know that it is not fair to think that way when there are so much hope behind this coin but it is how it works in reality ! The only way to attract people here is the value, high volume of trading ! I know that the buying wall was way superior than the selling one but the volume are so ridiculously low that noone pays attention....

Maybe some of you won't agree with my opinion or maybe i'm totally wrong but this is what i see and what i'm thinking ! I wish a long life to Zeit but i won't sell my stack !
newbie
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I have a strategic plan to save ZEIT in a few months! We can recover ZEIT from the total devastation, if we unite and proceed in shape coordinated, active and smarter.

I need a list of people who want to join this new project to save ZEIT, and to pass from the inoperativeness to the concrete action!

We need a critical mass of this community for a radical change to success!  Cool
All who wish to participate in this new strategic plan to recovery of ZEIT, please let me know and I will make a list of all participants. If we organize, we can take out to ZEIT of the absolute ruin! Smiley


Ok, I and MrKalipso participate in this. We are developing trading platforms (similar to ebay), where will be present zeitcoin.
Maybe this will attract to coin some attention.

Although probably most do not care. All are waiting fantastic growth rate out of nowhere to get rich quick doing nothing  Cheesy

legendary
Activity: 1148
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Sorry you feel that way. But if you have plans that you think might help the coin and community to grow then you need to be transparent about it. Instead of saying that you will announce what you have in mind once you see that there is interest, why not announce it first in order to gain interest? Otherwise you just sound like a snake oil salesman (just like Obama) making what are perceived as false promises.
member
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So it's officially dead then? LTC market is where coins go to die... sucks i hoped for much better from this coin.

I agree with you, we must act quickly. To pass from the inoperativeness to the concrete action! Smiley


What "inoperativeness" are you referring to? What have you done in the past to support this coin and community? Ray, beejay and Lion have done more for this community than all the rest of us combined. I for one do not appreciate what is obviously coming off as bad mouthing of these valuable members of this community by you. Please tell me I'm misinterpreting what you are saying.

They will have done much to this community, but his plan to carry forward to ZEIT has failed badly, of the worst possible way! And it is in view of all. They never have heard other opinions, they locked themselves in their fantasy world, waiting for the ada godmother to save us, so is not the way to lead a project like this, need a clear plan that be convincing and generates confidence needed to change things, the problems are not solved alone... Wink
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
So it's officially dead then? LTC market is where coins go to die... sucks i hoped for much better from this coin.

I agree with you, we must act quickly. To pass from the inoperativeness to the concrete action! Smiley


What "inoperativeness" are you referring to? What have you done in the past to support this coin and community? Ray, beejay and Lion have done more for this community than all the rest of us combined. I for one do not appreciate what is obviously coming off as bad mouthing of these valuable members of this community by you. Please tell me I'm misinterpreting what you are saying.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
So it's officially dead then? LTC market is where coins go to die... sucks i hoped for much better from this coin.

I agree with you, we must act quickly. To pass from the inoperativeness to the concrete action! Smiley
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
So it's officially dead then? LTC market is where coins go to die... sucks i hoped for much better from this coin.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Gotta be more specific than that, brohammus. What exactly is your grand plan?

I will expose in detail my plan once notice that there interested in changing strategy and the way forward! Wink
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Gotta be more specific than that, brohammus. What exactly is your grand plan?
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
I have a strategic plan to save ZEIT in a few months! We can recover ZEIT from the total devastation, if we unite and proceed in shape coordinated, active and smarter.

I need a list of people who want to join this new project to save ZEIT, and to pass from the inoperativeness to the concrete action!

We need a critical mass of this community for a radical change to success!  Cool
All who wish to participate in this new strategic plan to recovery of ZEIT, please let me know and I will make a list of all participants. If we organize, we can take out to ZEIT of the absolute ruin! Smiley
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
problem is there isn't much of a community to the coin.....hell doge has the most active community and can see how well it is doing right now
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
So the big question is, what projects are you (the developers) working on? Where are you at on these projects? What are you doing with your time? We need news and updates every few days, particularly on the BIG projects.


What are your BIG projects?
I have to work 10h a day. There is no Dev anymore, only a community.
We built in some wallet features - that's it.

Quote from: capSER2.0

Stay a little longer! We can do anything we can think of, as who should do it, they do not, we will have to do it ourselves! Wink
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Thanks to inaction, ineffectiveness, ineptitude of people like Lion, we do not stop wasting money and sink us further into the pit, while he writes silly joke of engineers, rather than to plan a real strategic plan to save ZEIT of total devastation.
Thanks to the stupidity and inaction of Lion, soon we could stand to lose 58 times our investment!

1 satoshi = 58 litoshis

Therefore, in a few more hours, ZEIT will be enabled to continue to fall to one litoshi. And we will be 58 times worse!

Thanks to the utter stupidity and the inoperation of Lion and company! :/

Before anyone responds, take this for what it is: FEEDBACK. This guy may have just voiced the opinion of at least 100 other people who did not even bother to write, probably someone who bought in a bit too high like lots of others here.

And he's right about 1 thing, now market cap can fall even further to reflect true supply and demand. Which, again, is merely a barometer of interest and a democratic election where you get more votes the more capital you have.

So the big question is, what projects are you (the developers) working on? Where are you at on these projects? What are you doing with your time? We need news and updates every few days, particularly on the BIG projects.

The same thing could be asked of CapSer then. What is he doing for the community and the coin? Other than bashing Lion, what is he and the "100 other people" who share his sentiments doing for this coin? This is a community, not a one man show.
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