Topic: [ANN] Maieuticoin | 2014% PoS | 10k/MMXIV and BALLS/MMXIV Markets NOW OPEN - page 78. (Read 283116 times)

NP. I have quite a bit experience in staking different coins since beginning this year (ORB, SYNC, HYP) and have read up a lot about how Crypto works, so I generally understand which part does what, have studied how the block chain behaves and understand the concept of private keys and trustless transactions, so I can help to suggest the steps to fix any problems - I have had to do these for myself too often already and made numerous mistakes, so I have an idea what works and what does not.

Sure, PM me an address. What Cor2 answered to your other question is exactly the steps, in order, that I would also suggest. They aren't lost, we will help you find them

Same for anyone else that wants their raffle entries refunded

Cor2, I'm not ignoring your questions. I'm waiting to hear back from someone more experienced with staking so I don't give out any bad suggestions since I set up my own staking to ensure blocks move smoothly instead of for max profit. Btw, thanks for trying to help Phosphorus

Your coins are safe, since the blockchain says they are in your wallet, only your wallet is confused because it tried to send but did not get confirmation, that is why it still shows a questionmark at the transaction.
You can first try to do a "repairwallet" command in the debug window.
If that does not help, you can close the wallet application and restart it,
if that still does not help then the ultimate is to close the wallet application, rename the wallet.dat to something else and copy your previous backup of wallet.dat in the place, then restart the wallet application. It will not know of the uncussesful transfer but simply look at the block chain and find your coins again. I hope you do have a backup of your wallet.dat.

The 4 coins that you are missing in your address are likely in *another* address in your wallet, since the block chain only gives you the balance of a single address. If you sent coins but your wallet had an input that was larger than the amount you sent, then there is "change" just like when you pay for a $3 item with a $20 bill. Your wallet will send that change to a random new address in your wallet,
unless you can enable "custom change address" in the Send screen and fill out your wallet address, so the change gets sent to the same address and your balance in *that* address does not go down with the size of the original input, but only with the amount that you paid, because the change goes back into that address.
You can enable "Coin Control" and open that screen in the Send tab. I think you can see the addresses used (I don't have the wallet running on this PC, so can't check). You can check the box in front of every address that is not your wallet's address and send it to your wallet address, then the balance on the block chain should be equal to your wallet balance again.
Hope this is clear.

Need help! I think my coins got lost. Since it's the end of the month it's time to Send to Bittrex and back. Wallet said I had almost 30M so I tried to send the whole balance. I got an error message that said it failed (Wish I had written it down), and the balance zero'd out. I gave it another hour and I noticed my balance was 0.398xxx, so I sent that to Bittrex and it succeeded, I can see it on Bittrex. But there's no trace of the initial 30M on Bittrex at all, and I do a getinfo and it says my balance is 0.0000.

Not sure what happened. Blockchain.cc says I have about 25.6 M (what happened to the other ~4?). When I look at the blockchain transactions I see the 0.398 withdrawal but not the 30M withdrawal.

Are my coins gone for good?

Naaa - if they needed money *badly* then they would dump. The sell wall is there to catch max price for anyone willing to buy.
Since then, the trading has gone down to half that price with only small volume. To support (and catch any dumps) I have placed a nice buy wall just below that, so we should have some price stability unless someone starts to move big volume!

Since it looks like the raffle is canceled, can I get my coins back?

That's almost 10% of the total coins.

There is a HUGE sell wall up on Bittrex right now, great time to buy or mine on the Multipool!!

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, this explains why I got no response.
But I was explicitly looking for your opinion on optimization, because there is no way that I can know about limitations such as minimum weights needed for staking, maximum weight that can be accumulated, max rewards or simply whether the wallet continues to divide the inputs up further and further, creating dust or - as so many other wallets - occasionally re-combines all staking-elegible inputs into one large input again, "sweeping up the dust" so to say. For example SYNC will do this once inputs have divided down to reach 0.01 SYNC.
not at all, only it does not answer most of my questions ;-)
The fact that the *first* stake is going well, does not guarantee continued success, because the value of the inputs are changing with every time staking...
I can live with inconsistencies, just wanted to report to you and add to the known bug list so it can be patched in one of the future releases if you so feel inclined. Good to know that fees only depend on size of the transaction - so unless you have many small inputs in your wallet, you can transfer for a low fee - another reason to keep the nr of inputs down. Is the wallet at some point limiting dividing the output of the staking when the amounts get very small?

I wasn't ignoring anyone, I was banned for posting about the staking hardware we are selling because mprep is a jackass. Thanks for talking shit while I couldn't respond, though. That's nice to come back to

We have not put in fancy limiters to the staking like a lot of coins. Personally, I move mine once a month spread across several addresses. This is not for me to make the most, but to ensure blocks keep moving. I would not take someone else's advice on how to stake my own coins, so I won't offer my own personal suggestion

Your method is earning you 56% yearly, which is higher than estimated returns; stick to what you're doing. But you probably sold them already since my being banned meant I was ignoring you personally, so this post is probably in vain anyway

Fees are calculated by transaction size, not coin amount, as they are with every coin ever. I will look at changing the popup box dialog, but if that is your main concern, and think small UI issues like that, deserve our attention above everything else we have going on, you're going to be disappointed

What a way to start the 100th page of this thread.... (see previous posts)

Since the dev is not responding and probably too busy with his next coin and even after searching and asking, I did not get answers, I think the next best thing is to sell my coins as I originally bought them on the announcement of a coin swap but that has since been cancelled and replaced by an insta-mine. As you can tell, I am not happy.

I expect that an exchange make a lot of money from .... exchanging coins, not from transmitting them. So, if it offsets (most) of their cost then that would be fine. The trading fee is usually about 0.5% between seller and buyer, so 30 M coins delivers a gain of 0.15 M and the loss of 0.05 transmit fee would not be too bad. Especially since many people leave their coins on the exchange and trade regularly.

I did not see a reply from the dev,
I fear that he is too busy launching the insta-mine Snowball coin,
but I am still interested in answers to the question about how to optimize staking.
My 4.4 M has now split in two blocks of 2.2 M after the first time staking and I have no clue
if it would help to assemble them into 1 block again or to leave them as two separate inputs.
BTW, I did calculate the compounded interest for my first stake if that would carry on for a year.
I took the percentage it earned, which was 0.1873% and the time it took (exactly 1.5 days) and
then calculated this over one year interest-on-interest and I arrived at 56%. Just FYI.

From what I can tell, 0.01 M is just the minimum fee.  If I try to send 1 or 2 M it pops up telling me the fee is 0.01 M

Sending 5M costs 0.02 M
Sending 10M costs 0.03 M
Sending 15M costs 0.03 M
Sending 20M costs 0.04 M
Sending 25M costs 0.05 M
Sending 30M costs 0.07 M

Not sure what the formula is there, but like many coins, the transaction fee is higher for larger amounts.  0.02 for a withdrawal on Bittrex sounds like a damn good deal if you have > 5 M

I suspect it is too, which leads me to wonder why the message always says I've exceeded the limit. If all transfers "exceed the limit" then why say so? Saying the transfer exceeds the limit implies there's an amount you can send with no fee, and if that is not the case it should be made clear what that is.

You are correct that there are many mysteries surrounding the details of how this coin works. I hope you can get us some answers, they do not make it easy.

I have been searching through this thread to find a specification of the staking of this coin, since there is almost no info in the OP spec.
What I found was that staking starts after an input is 24 hours in the same address. My coins finally started staking, but it took the wallet much longer than 24h before it indicated that staking was enabled. Using the 24h and the 2 min block time, you'd expect that after 720 blocks the staking of an input will be enabled. In my case (one input in the wallet) it started displaying that staking was enabled after about 820 confirmations on that input, so about 3 hours too late. Is this a known deviation or is there a bug in the wallet?

Then I read that after 30 days in the same address, an input stops staking. It is not clear to me if that means that I need to move ALL my balance after 30 days or only the inputs that have not yet staked after 30 days (since staked inputs are considered new inputs) or that after 30 days the coins simply stop accumulating more weight, but will still stake with the existing weight (like most other PoS coins do)?

Then there is the issue of optimizing the chances of staking and the staking rewards - how much are they? There is nothing in the OP other than that it can be expected that there is almost 1% staking rewards for a 50% early interest. Good, but how is it rewarded - based on what?
I have other coins where you need to split them up in small inputs, because each input gets a fixed reward. If you leave your coin in one large input, it will only stake once every time it matures and give you one fixed reward. If you divide it into small amounts (there is a minimum for staking block size though) then you get as many times the same reward, once for each staking input.
Then there are coins which have a maximum reward per stake, so you don't want one single input because the reward will be capped to max and you need to split into multiple inputs to maximize the rewards.
I see no spec of the PoS workings of this coin in the OP other than a maturity period and some maximum that is not explained and I can't find it after 1 hour of searching either, so I hope someone here can give a few details how to optimize the PoS and hopefully it can be added to the OP.
Thanks!

The limit is likely zero, since I understand that this coin has a fixed fee of 0.01 coin for any transfer.
Since these details are not specified (that I could find), it is hard to know for sure though.

It would also be nice if the message would state what the limit is to avoid a fee.

I checked the wallet and it takes a fee of 0.01M (about 25,000 Sat) to send, so BitTrex is doubling this fee and pocketing 25,000 Sat for a transaction, whereas other coins take a transaction fee (payment to the exchange) in the hundreds of Sat.

Another issue is that the wallet apparently is in error, it states:
"This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee of 0.01 M which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps to support the network."
I know that this is the standard text, but instead of sending to miners (as the wallet claims and other coins do) this coin is destroying the transaction fees to reduce the 50% inflation it creates from Staking.
So, the wallet needs to be updated if I understand you correctly, to line up with the coin spec.