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Topic: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For Highly-Confidential Transactions 🔏 - page 63. (Read 202439 times)

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Hi friends, can someone tell me how so little sumo coins are on Cryptopia sell orders, only 113 000, but circulating supply on marketcap is 2 827 061, so where is the rest coins??
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What the hell are you talking about  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Any news about new exchanges that I missed? I see someone wrote about HitBTC in reddit.

Someone please ?

We got listed on the soon to open for trading https://next.exchange/ and we are planning to get listed on other big ones as well. Announcements will be made when something is 100% certain (https://next.exchange/ listing is 100% confirmed though Smiley )
Cryptopia and Livecoin are of course available to trade Sumokoin as always
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Any news about new exchanges that I missed? I see someone wrote about HitBTC in reddit.

Someone please ?
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This project sounded interesting and I did bought just a small number of coins. But there are still some things that I can't figure.
This project really needs a good documentation on website

What kind of things? Maybe I can direct you accordingly
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This project sounded interesting and I did bought just a small number of coins. But there are still some things that I can't figure.
This project really needs a good documentation on website
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Hello everyone - this is not a FUD post, however, it does intend to open an important dialogue for everyone that doesn't actively read the subreddit.
In a nutshell, 7m Sumos are unlocked in 2020 by the devs, meaning that they will control 25% of all coins.


25% of all coins is 22,222,222 coins so 7mil is above 10%!!!do your math again!


In any case its a classic tactic of restating something that is known and clearly stated from day 1 to create fear and doubt. No one is forced to invest in anything. You balance the pros and cons and you go ahead or not. What is there to discuss?
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Hello everyone - this is not a FUD post, however, it does intend to open an important dialogue for everyone that doesn't actively read the subreddit.
In a nutshell, 7m Sumos are unlocked in 2020 by the devs, meaning that they will control 25% of all coins.


25% of all coins is 22,222,222 coins so 7mil is above 10%!!!do your math again!
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Hello everyone - this is not a FUD post, however, it does intend to open an important dialogue for everyone that doesn't actively read the subreddit.



We all knew about the premine from day 1, its your decision to invest or not. There is nothing to discuss about it. If you are thinking of hodling till 2020 and you are afraid of the premine dump a month before it is released. What you are doing is pure fud cause you are stating something that is already known and nobody forced you to invest on sumokoin
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Hello everyone - this is not a FUD post, however, it does intend to open an important dialogue for everyone that doesn't actively read the subreddit.
In a nutshell, 7m Sumos are unlocked in 2020 by the devs, meaning that they will control 25% of all coins.

The post I'm referencing can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/sumokoin/comments/7rb9qz/dear_core_team_can_we_talk_about_the_7million/

I'll also copy and paste it below for reference:

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edit: I've gotten a couple replies saying "email the PR team" or "take it to telegram and away from here" -- aka calls for silence. What's wrong with you guys? Sumo is about transparency. I think we were above blind pumping.

Edit 2: I'd like a rational explanation from the devs for why the vesting schedule is 600k, 900k, 7.2 million. That's 1.5x from year 1-2, and 8x from 2-3. I like the vesting. But it should be a decreasing scale, not increasing. See edit 3 for why.

Edit 3: something else about premines - when done up front, each coin sold by the devs to fund development is sold at a low price per coin. This is the opposite. These coins will be sold at a high price per coin when development is less necessary. Can anyone explain why that method was selected?

I think we need to have a conversion guys.

I'm glad & relieved the team has started an open dialogue about the coins being released this summer (see here: https://medium.com/sumokoin/spring-plan-2018-9d0218c8db40). That's awesome. But I'm more concerned about the 7,200,000 SUMOs that will be released to the team in July 2020. Assuming a price per SUMO in 2020 to be $100/sumo, that's $720,000,000 - almost a billion dollars.

Did you know that? The release schedule of coins to the team is as follows:

July 2018: 600,000 coins

July 2019: 900,000 coins

July 2020: 7,200,000 coins

Community Concern

When those 7,200,000 coins unleash, the core team will hold 25% of all coins in circulation on that date. The expected total number of coins as of blockheight 416581 (the release trigger, estimated July 2020) is approximately ~28.9 million coins. I'll post the code below to calculate. This is the opposite of decentralization and extremely concerning to me. In the best case scenario, SUMO acts like a bank and sells tokens to the public. At the worst, they pocket the billion dollars. I trust the devs but avarice is unpredictable and we have no way of knowing who will be part of the team in 2020.

Re Sumo's approach to pre-mine: When I first heard 10%, I thought they got 10% up front or something to speed the coin up. That's wrong of course. It's 10% of the total coins when all is said and done and they got none up front. That's cool. And 10% of total coins is a fair premine. Total coins = 88,888,888, total to SUMO = 8,888,888.

I didn't realize the 88,888,888 coins would be mined 20 years from genesis aka in 2037. So that "10% of Final" is more accurately described as "25% Pre-Mine 3 years from launch."

This is not the point of premines. Premines are designed to be used up-front to spur development, pay devs, etc. Instead, the community is spurring development and offering to help raise community funds to get onto exchanges. I like the premine with vesting, but this is the wrong execution. We are suffering slow take-off, doing the work that is supposed to be done by the premine that will release in 2020

Fast forward. At this point, I incorrectly thought that they would receive those ~9 million over the life of the coin. Turns out no. While the 10% is calculated on coins mined by 2037, they get those coins 3 years into SUMO's launch.

Pre-Mine Analysis

The point of a premine is to accelerate development. It is not and has never been to line the pockets of developers. And I'm not saying that is what SUMO intends at all -- in fact, I suspect they'd do the opposite. But to my point, a premine as late as 2020, when SUMO coin is either clearly a success or failure, is pointless. At that stage it does just reward the developers. there's no way in hell 700 million dollars of funding are needed at that stage. Can you even imagine what injecting 7 million SUMOs into the market would do? Mass inflationary panic.

In short, I'm glad the devs posted an update because it is the perfect trigger to open a discussion about SUMO's future. And we need to have this convo NOW, while the community is small and nimble, the devs are accessible, and we are NOT on other exchanges. Frankly it just looks bad. And with bigger exposure, it'll get torn apart as a scam coin / fraud.

TLDR

We deserve to be informed what is going to happen with those 7 million coins released in 2020, in a secure decentralized manner, one where SUMO is not suddenly a bank holding nearly a billion dollars in assets, way ahead of time.

Wallet 1:

Address: SumonzyoAnidrp3B6WhbntJLRJsPRD7LiSd2e5HjRV9h6qWj6ia2ihgRXn8ZwmwfQgZ1mL9EkcsBcEL L4h84v1yhMF9opLgjM1j Viewkey: e6e58faa93dba88315f67f53cba9413ebf0f423badb62696aa28ce6c0db2df00 Locked amount: 600,000 -- Until height#: 153600 (July 2018)

Wallet 2:

Address: SumonzyopdC7egt7MWhJcNfR3ktmfWqPNcu3Sb9aejAZ48W4a1ZW95vjXyQDuLLg2gSN8GkP3474R2w Rr1h9ggy2BUHhbrLJJ51 Viewkey: 25ba5fa5abb5f99962754001ff631e01684f9a59871d798a20a1658ba31c950c Locked amount: 900,000 -- Until height#: 285091 (July 2019)

Wallet 3:

Address: SumonzyoK3hCffFQ8djaKZhokmPZsiuEaeLfEtnJfTXVQV3ce3mNHKHQ5kYLPVfNMsS7dhmyHihvhfK U6xXCrmaL4RVDo8eR3gB Viewkey: 1a8c55e52f7f80da3dfd2eadf71a74afb3242c20168ad888b57f483dbc38b00e Locked amount: 1,100,000 -- Until height#: 416581 (July 2020)

Dev Wallet:

Address: Sumoo4aMxWbLgqVazxbiNNFSDyhBEonRf99KmceTEnYUCWUQR2gXF1617P8xQxaMcGi5BAU7juzThST boV6e1gitSjkfjq2zgY2 Viewkey: e12497b6dc6c2cbaf7b311e54b93e4e5f6367acda69a49f9ef20c51d9c689f00 Locked amount: 6,100,000 -- Until height#: 416581 (July 2020)

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what is the difference btw total supply and max supply?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sumokoin/


it says,

Total Supply
11,715,950 SUMO
Max Supply
88,888,888 SUMO

any ideas guys?? Huh




Total coins are the total number of coins mined by a certain period in time ( now ) .
Max supply meaning the maximum number of coins that can be mined.
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what is the difference btw total supply and max supply?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sumokoin/


it says,

Total Supply
11,715,950 SUMO
Max Supply
88,888,888 SUMO

any ideas guys?? Huh


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SUMO is one of the coins I believe and invested in. Will you be releasing mobile wallet, for iOS or Android?
there is already android mobile wallet!
ios it will take a little more longer!
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so where is the new roadmap?

why is this coin always diping slowly after a pump?

after hype pump is a market correction

It's still pretty big corrections though. Really goes up and down like a rollarcoaster!
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Any news about new exchanges that I missed? I see someone wrote about HitBTC in reddit.
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When authorities will begin blocking exchanges and mining pools web sites access, you will see that what he/she says will began to make a lot of sense to you too and all the believers.

I believe it, I just don't see how this effects privacy coins, it's not as if authoritative entities bearing down on crypto was not forseen, that is the whole point of privacy coins, they will adapt with ease no matter how strong the pressure..It seems BitTorrent and TOR still run strong despite endless attempts to end them.

Centralized exchanges are temporary, in the near future decentralized exchanges will be the norm.  P2P Mining has existed for some time, mining pools are not necessary, they are just convenient. 
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