Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 13. (Read 6614 times)

He had a feeling that just a little more and he would win all his money from the gambling and aggressive newcomer. He thought he would do it easily. You cannot underestimate your opponent, no matter how carelessly he plays, any opponent must be respected, even this one.

Yes, to put it simply, he succumbed to emotions. I know that this infuriates professionals the most when those from whom they are accustomed to earn money show them the opposite. This undermines their self-esteem about themselves, about their game. They think it also had a big impact that the whole table was watching and laughing. Probably some deep feelings and emotions from childhood that did not manifest themselves in poker were at work, which allowed him to win until that moment. The rest of the professionals also need to think about this, suddenly the moment will come when they will have something similar.

You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

I agree with you that it depends on how one's perspective is in assessing addiction, because it can have different premises for each point of view.
However, for me, it is quite clear that someone who cannot escape gambling is someone who experiences gambling, even if he plays regularly, or comes every week. I think he has an addiction. Although the classification of someone's gambling is different depending on how much time, money and thought they put into thinking about gambling.

IMO, there is no positive addiction in my opinion, especially in gambling even have a little addict.

In my opinion, this has become commonplace among gamblers Yes,  maybe they are trapped in their zone so it is difficult for them to get out of the zone that makes them comfortable with gambling, even though gambling itself causes losses to them, but they still stick with what is clearly detrimental. with their bad habits, they experience quite a few losses.

Yes, you are right, those who are successful at casinos are the ones who stay and leave with some money, that's probably because they are smart in doing what they are supposed to do.

As a professional, he should not have been triggered by his emotions due to his loss. As a professional gambler, he knows what to do when he has lost more than 4 times and must be able to stop himself from gambling. Unfortunately, he didn't think about it and instead continued gambling, and in the end, he lost and lost everything. In gambling, when someone has experienced more losses, his emotions will be triggered and can make him lose his mind. That will make him want to recover his losses because, in his mind, he will think that a novice gambler can't beat him, especially since he already has more experience than a novice gambler.

And finally, it really happened when he experienced loss after loss, which caused him to lose everything and even have to borrow money. It will also not give him a chance to win the game because when a person is in high emotions, he will not be able to think clearly, and his gambling game will become random.

Of course, these two factors are important keys for someone who wants to be successful in the field of gambling, because it is impossible for someone to be successful if they do not have skills in the field of gambling, and vice versa it is impossible for someone who is successful without having luck in it, so the concept of skill is what brings luck and makes professional gamblers able to become successful people thanks to their skills, whereas people who only rely on luck without using their skills will not become successful gamblers.

Successful gamblers and addicts are very clearly different, successful gamblers are more able to control themselves and always use gambling to generate luck but with the skills they have, while addicts just gamble chasing losses or chasing wins without knowing the concept of skill, they only rely on luck and this is what will cause more addicts to waste money and time.

That kind of thinking behind a gambler's mind gives a big edge to the house, as even if you have already recovered from addiction the moment you enter the house again, this kind of thinking will always appear behind your mind, giving the hint that, what if the next attempt will be the lucky pick for you, if control got lose surely it will bring back that addiction as you will be dominated by emotions to please that desire, hoping that luck will back you up and let you win the game.

You have to be more careful if you just went from addiction, as like what the post above, mentioned, there's always a chance that you may fail to control, and you will unleash that desire inside and offer yourself again to another addiction.

It all depends on what is considered addiction and what are the criteria for addiction. If the criterion is the ability to consciously refuse to play a game in which you have little advantage, then professional gamblers are likely to have little addiction. If by addiction we mean a constant or periodic irresistible craving for gaming, then almost all people who play on a regular basis are addicted. If we talk about a small addiction that does not harm you, but which creates motivation to move on, then I think that such an addiction is rather positive. This is not the most common view, but it is what follows the facts and logic. A little controlled addiction won't hurt us.

Well I have always said something, that each person does what they want and that is what I have seen, practically there are people who do not bet anything and I think that the most they like is being in the casino to see how other people play and how they do to have gains, losses, etc., it is always like that, I could say that this is something very normal, because where I live there are people who are like that, just like when you go down the street on December 25th you sometimes see people drunks out there, it is something as common as that, it could be in Las Vegas, or in other casinos in other countries, well, you don't see that type of thing because it is usually debatable as something not going well, but the customs are so common. Once again, we are generally people of habit, it is difficult for those who leave their comfort zone and those who do that kind of thing in a casino and don't tell them anything, because they simply get used to it. there because they believe that they are not harming Andie and since they are allowed to do so, they are fine.

Now, as people who are thinking and who have many things to do, we have to look at it, for example, I am not capable of doing something like that, of going to a casino and staying all day, it is not that I lose my time, but I consider that I can do more productive things, I also think that the area where I live is very quiet, so the people are so calm that they are not in such a constant hustle and bustle as they are in the big cosmopolitan cities, where you cannot relax because the city itself eats you if you don't care, then all this has to do with culture, with the way people do and react and how they can behave to do things better, in a casino there are many stories that are told. Dan, but I consider that an addicted person is one who goes to the casinos and becomes decapitated and starts a world of problems, but a successful person for me is one who goes to the casino, stays as long as they want and leaves with money, on a positive balance. .

I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.

Yeah, but there's a tricky thing that is in the back of the mind of many gamblers... what if they win the next one?

That is basically how many fortunes have been lost.

And that is how casinos build their fortunes.

Indeed, it is a fine line, and it is often difficult to distinguish it. But with our experience, we can know and differentiate it. Yes, I agree with you that there are professional players who end up losing a lot and despair because they cannot control themselves well while they are gambling. They forget that gambling has many temptations, so they seem to underestimate gambling and say they are used to dealing with it. But from underestimating them, they will start to encounter problem after problem, which, in the end, they cannot handle and makes them start to lose control of themselves in gambling. He would feel like he had hit rock bottom again and might not be able to get up again if he didn't quickly realize that he had made a mistake. By realizing his mistakes and the desire to correct his mistakes, he can get back up and start correcting the mistakes he has made.

Successful gamblers must have skills that can help analyze the gambling they do and to be able to win. They are very different from most gamblers. They also have other things we need to know because they never tell the public. Successful gamblers can play using skills that are above average so that they have a better chance of winning than other gamblers. They will not be lazy to continue practicing their skills because, according to them, that can help them to remain professional gamblers, and they have that when they already have a lot of skills.

Successful gamblers can force themselves not to chase wins because they know it will not bring them more wins. They know themselves better than anyone, so they can defend well and win. We really don't know whether successful gamblers are addicts or they do not have an addiction because they don't show it to the public. But if we can get close to them, we can learn things that help them become successful gamblers so that we can also improve our skills.

Skill and luck are essential to successful gambling. I believe gambling skill development is like any other high-level pursuit, requiring devotion and work. The goal of skill improvement is personal growth and mastery, not merely winning.

The concept of addiction is complicated. Some successful gamblers incorporate gambling into their life, but is this addiction? Not always, I argue. Control is crucial. Gambling sensibly, without sacrificing other elements of life, is not an addiction.

To promote healthy gambling, promote responsibility. Gambling should be fun, not addictive. Gambling should be fun, not harmful, thus encourage discipline and self-awareness.

Successful gamblers still need skills to be able to achieve good luck. In fact both of these are important roles for truly successful gamblers, and yes, successful gamblers who play based on skills will continue to hone their abilities to deepen their skills so that their predictions or strategies can be right, it is not easy for someone to deepen them. If you are too lazy to hone your skills, successful gamblers will need a long time to get the results they are getting now.

Successful gamblers can be called addicts and it can also be said not, they use gambling to make a profit, which means if they continue to gamble and always win, they can be called addicted because gambling is part of their life. But it can be called no because they can still control it gambling which means an addiction that can be controlled by oneself

So you mean that if someone is able to control emotions, making money from gambling sites is easy. This alone, as you put it, will lead to big wins. Ok, I will just take some medication then that suppresses my emotions, go to a gambling website and become rich? I am sometimes speculating whether you guys are for real with those opinions or whether you did not know what to write next. But when you don't know what to write, why wouldn't you just refraining from writing then? Having control over one's emotions is helpful in probably every area of life, but telling people that it will make you rich if you are only emotionally calm and settled is weird stuff.

Actually it seems contradictory but when you examine the matter carefully you will understand that there is not clear distinction between a successful gambler and a lucky gambler. Let come this way, someone who is lucky consistently and his luck is sustained for a long period of time, will we be wrong to call such a person successful?
There's no law that says that before your achievements could be recorded as successful, you must show evidence of experience and working strategies. In gambling, anyone who wins is successful while he who losses is not successful. Let's hold to this premise untill there are other substantial points to counter the obvious.

In gambling, a successful gambler is luck and a lucky gambler should also be successful.

On the time that you had been able to recover up yourself into that temporal addiction specially if its your first time on playing gambling then you would really be able to control yourself again into those next sessions on which i could say that it is really that indeed a good thing but its better to make yourself having in moderation when it comes to playing again because it doesnt mean that you wouldnt be able to get addicted again or having that odds or chance on getting addicted on the time that you do make those active sessions but well it would really be that still depending on you since its our money that we do gamble and not on others. As long you do make yourself that responsible and mindful about your spending then i would say that it is really just that fine but of course
having control would really be always that relevant.

In that case, the player wouldn't have to bother about his results, if he now gambles with the money he won, and saves his own money for another day. Your actions, Westinhome, are great, but not everyone would be able to focus on the bonus money alone. There are multiple meanings to all gambling strategies, and that's why gamblers need to be psychologically strong. A gambler needs to understand the right time to make any move or apply unique strategies in gambling. The measures talked about in the forum are mainly to restrict or reduce the high rate of addiction circulating among gamblers. The aim isn't about maximizing profits or seeing it as a game of chance for more money. A player who follows strategies like self-control wouldn't win big in gambling in the long run, and at the same time won't go home wearing a frowned face or transferring aggression to his friends or family.

The winning, however, is not guaranteed all the time. A gambler will undergo lots of difficulties, thick and thin, to win big. Hence, while we encourage players to stay clear from addiction or chasing for the money, it's important to note that, it takes time to be in control of games like black roulette. The gambler may have paid some attention to the game and how it works to be able to win big unless he applies random tricks like predicting colors or some range of numbers on the board. I don't doubt the fact that a new player with no prior experience of black roulette can win big on his first day in gambling. Yes, it's possible. Yet it could put him into a fast race of recklessness. Just like most people would say the first win leads to reckless gambling. Such a player with no control, we still fund the house back the same money they just gave him. Neglecting some of the strategies discussed in this board, may not help a gambler who only depends on luck.

The gambler who had a potential to control the emotions,they he will play the game without any temptation.So this alone give you big win in the gambling site,if you do the meditation.This will help to control the emotions in the gambling site.This seems you never play the gambling game,because the gambler who play the game will know the value of the control of the emotions in the gambling.In my gambling games,I had double the money once.At that time,my full game was played without any care of win or loss in the game.Because the initial money was from the bonus money from the gambling site.

This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.