Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 18. (Read 6617 times)

That is the difference between successful gamblers and gamblers who are addicted to gambling, so those of us who are not yet successful gamblers do not need to spend a lot of time gambling, especially as there is a risk of becoming addicted to gambling. We should try to be careful when playing gambling like successful gamblers do so that we can also avoid losing a lot. By trying to limit our gambling activities, we have actually become successful gamblers because we have succeeded in managing the time and money we use for gambling, and we have succeeded in avoiding the big problem in gambling games, namely becoming addicted to gambling.

Well, I would like to add a little idea here, and it is that some people get really obsessed about different activities, and some of them can eventually master them. I'm not talking about the addict who keeps spending in the hope of winning someday a big jackpot that compensates previous losses (which is very unlikely), but about the professionals who are willing to learn maths, statistics, marketing and/or other disciplines that will help them succeed, even against the tide.

An addicted gambler can rarely be successful. Successful people who gamble are careful with their time and disciplined with their money as well. They know how to manage their time, money and emotions well so they don’t get sucked into the moment and gamble away most or all of their money.
Addicts are barely successful(financially or otherwise) and a gambling addict isn’t far off.

If you look at it that way, it's a must to have everything. I mean it will be a combination of your skills and good self or emotional control. Being wise about knowing where to stop is always the best attitude when you are involved in this kind of industry. I see the point where gamblers do have that mindset that they can win, and they can make decent profits when playing / betting.

It's a kind of adrenaline that keeps on lingering inside you that you can have that chance to win over. If you can control that, it will lead you to a bad gambling habit or much known as addiction.

oooh yes you are right, the big win they get is luck but there is nothing wrong with it also called success in getting a win in gambling.
But I agree with what you said, luck and success in gambling are different, gamblers can be called successful if they get a big win and build their own casino, yes that's right. I didn't think about that.
Then what about the person who gets a big win but he doesn't choose to build a casino, but chooses to live a luxurious lifestyle? Do you think that is called success or luck?

Yes, as I said before, everyone's luck is different, it's impossible for everyone to be lucky in gambling. So even those who get a big win with their lives changing to be more luxurious with everything in my opinion can be called successful. But success or not is how people respond to it anyway, because not only is luck different, but everyone's thoughts are also different. So there must be different thoughts about something.

So if you think like that, is it possible that there are people who are always lucky in every gambling, with the fact that they often play 3 times a day and always win? if I think that people who have luck in gambling will also not get a continuous victory, there are times when they lose and go home with negative results, or people who get a big win but only once can be called hockey? If there are people who always win at every game and always go home with a positive balance, they are very lucky. because surely the winnings they get exceed the capital they deposit. and if that's the case, does he have a trick to always get a win at gambling? so he can always get a win.

someone who is in the casino all day doesn't mean they are addicted, they could just be watching. but if they are just watching I don't think it's possible either, of course they bring a certain amount of money to bet by trying their luck, winning or losing is no one can predict if in gambling because it is difficult to make sure the victory will be easy to get. because gambling also has a random system, I've read in another tread that someone said, "the chances of winning in physical casino gambling are greater, than online gambling". whether that's true or not, what do you think?

Every category of gamblers experience losses in one way or the other except they stop gambling els you can't be too smarter than the casino no matter how good you are or no matter how experienced you are with the casino, you must definitely suffer losses at some point but if you try to be too smart you may even suffer worse than expected.

Gambling shouldn't be seen as a place where you can get daily income as you may be disappointed by the possible outcome if you Chanel your mind in that direction, this will most likely make you chase losses because in a bid to get something out of gambling daily you may turn out to loose some money and not willing to accept such losses you will want to keep playing maybe you could be lucky to recover and gradually addiction creeps in and you get a second problem to deal with again.

Well, success is measured in many different ways, and I have given that in the thread, the things they think and everything how they express it because of their way of thinking is good, but personally I am a bit more direct, for For me, a person who considers himself successful is someone who always wins every day at the casino, that is, if he plays for 1 hour today and comes out with a positive balance, well, if he plays 3 times a day and comes out with profits, it seems to me that he is a similar success, But if it is measured in weeks or months that the general balance of the person in the game is positive balance, for me he is a successful person in the casino, for me there is no other definition of a successful person except for him to play and win, of The rest is an average player who probably has wins and losses where losses predominate, that is for me a normal player, of course it sounds a bit eo, because up to that point I include myself too, but just as in tading there are successful people doing it, too In the casino there must be very lucky people who always win.

In another order of ideas, we can meet people who can spend all day in a casino gambling and when we go to the casino they are always there, and well it is something that seems quite strange to us because it is something that is not very common, however when we We review things well, those types of people play throughout the day, sometimes they win, other times they lose, but I know that they are in a casino all day and they win, but they are there all day long, I wouldn't call them addicts, because addicted gamblers They usually lose and that is something that is not considered a success but quite the opposite, so in this type of thing we must be very emphatic and say things like they mean, if I am in a casino all day I leave without money If I can consider myself addicted because it is something that I always lose, I don't bring good results and that is a bad thing, that will eventually bring me problems and that is what we want to avoid.

Yes, I understand what you are saying, if indeed a gambler gets a big win and can say it is success, then what about someone who has just started gambling in slot games or whatever gets a big win, is that success or luck?
In my opinion, luck and success are different because if a gambler gets a big win it is not success but luck, except as I said before when he gets a big win a gambler starts to build his own casino and that is success.
If we talk about luck, all gamblers have different portions of luck and luck doesn't only come in gambling so we probably don't need to expect too much luck from gambling.

They have become successful, but their success is not financial, but they are successful in becoming someone who is addicted to gambling hahaha. They force themselves to continue gambling because they want to get rich quickly by gambling. but all of this goes in the opposite direction, where they don't become rich financially but they lose financially, health and behavior. This is all because they respond wrongly to gambling, which makes them miserable.

We agree that all gamblers definitely want to win, and those who gamble with limits definitely want to win. but all of this has its own side with running gambling. where there are people who gamble with the desire to win, and there are people who gamble with only priority for entertainment, not really expecting to win. It's just that most people gamble with the desire to win and they lose a lot of money which makes them lose themselves. So it completely depends on how we respond to gambling, whether we can respond to gambling appropriately or not. If we respond to gambling appropriately, we can be sure that we will avoid addiction which can result in the loss of a lot of the money we have. On the other hand, if we cannot respond to gambling properly, then we could lose a lot of money in gambling.

In my opinion there are also people who are successful with gambling, where they may get a very large win so that they can change their lifestyle drastically, but that is also because of the strong luck that favors them not because of the tricks or patterns they apply to gambling. and if we also search the internet for people who have successfully changed their lives because of winning gambling like him there will be several names written.

Maybe they see someone who can get a big win and they think "if that person can win why can't I", but they don't think about the portion of each person's luck which of course everyone has different luck, it's impossible for everyone to be lucky in gambling, there are also those who are lucky outside gambling.

I sometimes still think with title of this thread why gambling considered a success and some people take this seriously whereas gambling just a place provided to bet with little money to enjoy the games we want to have fun but why do people think that gambling can be successful ?
So I agree with you that gambling addicts are just  bad effects excessive gambling and cannot be considered success unless the gambling company  built to be bigger and I will admit that is what called success.

A regular gambler can sell his valuable assets to gamble and it seems that he is starting to become addicted to gambling because otherwise he would not be willing to sell his valuable assets just to gamble. He will probably reduce his gambling activities to avoid heavy losses and will not want to sell his valuable assets. That was clearly the wrong decision and he should have realized that if he sold his valuable assets, it meant there was a problem within him that had to be resolved immediately before everything ended badly. If the gambling addict can realize his mistake and is willing to admit that he is having a problem and wants to solve the problem, he will try to reduce his gambling activities, at least until the problem is resolved. He needs to re-examine his mindset about gambling so that if it doesn't suit his initial goal of gambling, he should be able to change it and get it back on track.

Moreover, there are no gamblers who are truly successful, most people force themselves to be successful at gambling, even though they will never get it even if they gamble all the time or say become an addict, we should know that gambling should only be used as entertainment as a place to find money. pleasure is not a place to seek success or wealth.

I saw an addict who spent his time gambling, they really didn't feel successful, in fact they spent their money all the time when they gambled, so it's impossible to say that a successful gambler is an addict because that's very impossible, but actually successful or not successful. At least gambling should be able to be enjoyed without having to achieve the winning target you want to achieve.

You are right, successful gamblers must also have experienced big losses before they succeeded from gambling. Because not everyone can succeed from gambling. the statement remains that the chances of losing are greater than the chances of winning, also the risks that exist in gambling are no joke. the more people dare to bet in large amounts the greater the risk, risk always goes hand in hand in gambling, in any condition gambling certainly has its own risks in it and that risk will occur to someone who gambles carelessly.

It is very difficult to be successful with gambling because of the small chances of winning and the high risk of being a spur in gambling. maybe strong luck can make someone successful with gambling, but however do not force yourself to be successful with gambling because this is just a means of entertainment not a means of making money to support someone's daily life.

But I couldn't think a person is a normal gambler if he sells their properties, sell their valuable assets just to gamble. It was obviously a wrong decision and addicted to gambling, not a sacrifice. You can't be dumb doing this knowing that gambling can't assure us to win, and I can't do that for sure. But a gambling addict will find a way to cope with his addiction even if it will compromise their finances. It was a kind of mindset that never think about the future but just his addiction.

I don't seem to agree with you, someone who is experienced in my opinion is not completely addicted, successful gamblers don't mean they spend all their time gambling, but they play it only when there is a promotional promotion in the casino or they do sports betting where sports betting is not always available every day only when the sports season is going on and they use skills and strategies, while gambling addicts spend their time completely gambling, they don't manage their finances, they can't limit their time and most of what gambling addicts experience is loss, not success, have you ever heard of someone a truly successful gambling addict? How can you be successful if gambling addicts only think about gambling, even when they win they will continue their activities in gambling, so in my opinion, don't equate people who are successfull because of gambling with gambling addict.

Even though you group two different types of gamblers, you need to know that both do not lead to anticipated losses because successful gamblers also experience bigger losses because they are always active in gambling, gambling is related to probability and luck which is closely related to the risk of loss and the more bets, the higher the losses, so change your mindset that gambling is not for chasing daily income but only for gambling for entertainment, avoid gambling addiction by limiting the funds used for gambling and choosing a type of gambling that has a chance of being won rather than slot gambling.

We must agreed for one thing in life that is "sacrifices"
Yes certainly before someone or something must yield a meaningful results it is assumed that such person or groups of people has put in an unending effort being sacrifices and when they becomes successful we all turned out to call them all manners of names that could leads to something like "such person is a gamble addicts or such person sold his car to gamble, probably he sold their property" yes all these are called sacrifices while the other way round we can say it's an addict. Bit truth be told successful gambling aren't easy to emerge because of how difficulty it's have winning knowing too well that gamble is a game of probability or luck based game.

They made them successfully as they follow the patterns that leads them to make more winning stake compared to losing outcomes, meaning to say that control is on them and it might be as addiction but in the other hand, it's an addiction that provides them the money that they continue to gather from each sessions that they take.

We do have different take on it, as long as we call them successful it won't change anything but to have a positive benefits.

Yes, because addiction is synonymous with bankruptcy, not success, the average successful gambler usually understands how to manage their funds so that usually every time they win, they turn that money into a business so that they can become a successful person from gambling, but if the gambler turns over their winnings to finance their gambling again, of course That alone will not give you success in gambling, there will only be wasted wins.

Moreover, successful gamblers cannot be linked to gambling addiction. Usually people who are successful and rich at gambling always consider gambling to be just entertainment, so that when they succeed in winning big they consider it just a bonus, but on the other hand, in the view of poor gamblers, it is usually a win. It will be considered a great success, it all depends on how each person views it.

Indeed, successful gamblers know when to stop and when to continue playing. Yeah we can call them addicts, because thru playing or gambling they succeed. But there are two types of addict in gambling. First, the one who succeed and second is the one who lost all his assets. Agreed, a successful gambler know how to overcome a failure, but the another type of addict is continue to play even he loses. The mindset of the other type of addict is still gambled because he won at once, he will eagerly strive for the win even he losses a lot.