Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 19. (Read 6614 times)

It could be that successful gamblers do not experience addiction because they have experience in how to overcome addiction, which can come at any time. A successful gambler knows what to do when he has been gambling for a long time and he will choose to stop gambling rather than lose his money.
This is what differentiates successful gamblers from most gamblers because successful gamblers can overcome everything that would have a bad impact on them. They have more experience than most gamblers so they can decide what to do.

good point and I agree with it
still wouldn't classify all the things that make you lose money as addictions since to be an addiction something has to affect your life in a negative way in more aspects than only that
let's say, Netflix, you could watch 1 to 5 movies a week and be happy with it even though you're paying for the service, or you could be binge watching series all days incapable of leaving your bed for work
two extremes but just saying it to illustrate the idea.

I guess it depends on what you call a successful gambler.

To me that means that the gambler has a total positive money won when considering the lifetime of games.

So, there are very few ones based on that definition as most gambler win and lose, but lose more than what they bet.

That's the whole point of a casino. There are a few, a very small number of lucky gamblers that do actually end up in a win. But many of them continue and end up losing their funds in the end.

A successful gambler is rarely considered as addicted they are not fully addicted they have enough experience that they win gambling games and fall under the category of successful gamblers. Gamblers who cannot sustain success after winning become greedy and become addicted. Successful gamblers know enough about how to protect their funds. Gambling has been involved for a long time and their practice is very good. At the end of the day they are successful gamblers and do not have addiction problems due to proper practice.

Totally contradictory right? It is really that hard to set in that word addiction into someone whose been that successful on which it isnt really that possible that you would really be that successful when you are addicted.
If we do speak about addiction then it would be always meaning about negative thing because doing excessive things which we know that it could bring that negative or disaster thing on which it is really just that right on having that way. Successful gamblers are surely to those people who are really that able to pass up that kind of addiction ones on their gambling career or activity which i do believe that there is really a moment
that on the time that you would really be that addicted to gambling.

I do consider out that those successful ones are really that able to sustain and solve out that kind of moment on the time that they are really that getting addicted to gambling on some point.
You wont really be that making yourself that able to enhance if you havent been able to reach or able to pass those addiction moments.

I think feels weird putting successful and addiction in one sentence, I mean, how can a gambling addict even be successful in gambling?
Yeah to be successful in gambling you need to invest your time effort and resources in it but that doesn't make you a addict, sometimes people become successful in gambling out of luck, without having to put in so much in it. You can agree with me that one quality of an addicted gamblr is, fund mismanagement. And if you cannot manage funds how can you be successful. It doesn't matter how much money you've got, if you're addicted to gambling, all that money is going down the drain.

then what about professional poker gamblers?
you can find out from search engines seeing successful poker gamblers who become rich because they are not addicted but they only bet on big tournaments with very big prizes and can get rich from these big tournaments and if you associate the experience with addiction it seems like something is unfair because experience does not have to be addictive because poker gamblers dont have to be addicted. If they want to gain experience, they only need skill and independent practice using cards at home without involving money.
so with your statement I dont agree because experience does not have to be an addict.

Yes a successful gambler is fully addicted with gambling because gambling need experience to be perfect in it. Nothing us perfect practice and experience helps you to do good in it. No on can't bring success in one day practice and dedication helps you to be an successful gambler. That practice and dedication end of the day creat addection. Thats the reason a successful gambler is fully addicted with gambling.

Only a few would really be able to sustain out or become that successful with gambling or someone who do really be able to make themselves that profitable and sustaining and the rest would really be just simply losers and this is the reality of gambling and this is where people would really be that trying to achieve when they do gamble. Addicts could be considered into those people who are really impulsive and totally irresponsible with their actions like spending tons of money, taking up some loans and compromising their life savings on which this is a solid indication that a certain
person is really that addicted on which it did really comes into a point that thinking up wisely and sensibly is something that you cant really be able to do so and ending up on
damaging things on which that are important.

Fair enough.

If a behavior is not causing you any harm, and is making you money instead, while making you happy, then I wouldn't say it's an addiction.

Having said that, the odds tell me that you might be in a tiny minority, as the vast majority of people would lose money in gambling when all is considered.

but..
are you addicted if it's not a problem for your routine?
are you addicted if you can stop at any time?
are you addicted if it makes you money and you have a healthy relationship with it, enjoying your activity?

Maybe you mean that successful gamblers are those who can consider everything perfectly and still take many precautions with the plans they have made beforehand so as not to end up experiencing things that are not desirable. That is the point of view of a real successful gambler, it makes more sense than calling successful gamblers those who always win, it's too impossible and let's think with clear common sense.

Yes it is very different from addicts, of course because an addict is those who always gamble with a high level of risk without doing any consideration beforehand, and it may be as you said that most of their behavior is spontaneous, wanting to win but not wanting to lose, and if they lose they will chase the loss to recover, and if they win then they will be greedy for something bigger. That's how addicted gamblers are, it's very bad and I'm sure there will be a lot of problems that they experience when in that phase of addiction especially in terms of finances. So the bottom line is that there is nothing better unless you gamble for entertainment only or even better try to quit to stay away from the possibility of addiction.

If that's the sentiment it can be a better way of addiction, learning through the process and adopting with how you will find the best way that can bring you decent benefits, a good attitude coming from those successful gamblers are the things that they are in control of their emotions, most of them understand the risk that they are taking and before they going to take it they undergo with lots of research and lots of undestanding particularly inside the game that they are playing with.

It's not easy and you are correct, not just a quick process that gives them the edge, but a day-by-day process to adopt more information and try to construct the best strategy that will help them achieve their goals.

Yes, I agree with you, successful gamblers have good control and mentality, and of course they can manage their expenses well in carrying out gambling activities, they use skills and strategies to achieve victory and they continue to do that until they get results and can be called with "successful gamblers".

However, need to remember that successful gamblers are not careless in betting, they always use their plans and skills so that they can achieve their desires, we must be able to differentiate between successful gamblers and addicts, there is a very striking differenced.
Addicts always use gambling that doesn't have the right pattern and not can set limits the expenses or limit their time in gambling because they are filled with emotions and find it difficult to control themselves so that addicts look worse than gamblers who use it responsibly.

I classify a player as successful if they start from the Principle that they Have to do things well and that they must have everything to do Everything correctly, but I take or give everything to success so that the player can be always a winner, that is to say, or is it that the greatest of all prizes is always won in the casino but that he is in the casino, it does not matter if he spends the Whole day there, but that he always leaves with a Positive Balance,  This is what I say can make a difference. It can't be done at all, but for one thing in particular, that they always come out with Money, and that they don't lose, or at least that the losses are less than the profits, and that in Throughout the year or for as long as the person plays, he or she will be able to make a lot of money, and not be attached to everything that it means to be in a casino with all the things as they are, which or more normal is to Lose , I think this is the main thing that You can see, there is no other way, for many the successful player is the one who Knows how to play well but still Loses.

A successful game for me is measured by the money you win in a casino, whether you are there all day long, whether you are addicted or not, but if you win money and your winnings are always constant or you are always a profitable person in a casino, but for I make him successful, because I know that there is an activity where you are Basically making money by doing what suits you the most, and that is the idea, because if we do a job that we don't like, but that is what makes us make money, I think we are doing things wrong, then if a person Really likes a casino and its games and does his job, how to play in a casino, so I know it is something he likes, well, he is a Happy person , and the time? He can be there all Day , because he will leave with his pockets full, I don't know if such a person Exists, but he does exist, wow, and because of this I believe that there must be at least one person like that in the world, because Everything can be Achieved.

I think yes a successful gambler full addict with it. Because gambling is not game of luck. But sometime luck is needed. Gambling is a game of experience and knowledge. Gaining experience and knowledge is not one day work it increase after doing thesis practice day by day. Day by day practice in gaining knowledge create slowly addiction on gambling. After sometime when you are a successful gambler you can see that your full addicted with it without getting addiction no one can be successful gambler.

If we can become wise gamblers, it means we have tried to take care of ourselves while we gamble and not gamble excessively and that could mean we have tried to become successful gamblers. But some people say that successful gamblers are gamblers who manage to get very big wins and can retire from gambling forever and enjoy their very large winnings. But we must know that someone successful in getting a big win has the possibility of returning to gambling another day because he wants to repeat getting his big win again. If that happens, he will not be a successful gambler because he will return to gambling and cannot control himself in gambling.

great topic
only saw it now

there's a thin line that separate obsession from passion sometimes, when it comes to doing and mastering an art or skill form
most will probably consider successful gamblers not to be addicted.

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what are the main things needed to be a successful gambler?

luck
bankroll management
emotional control/awareness

what else?

In gambling, its all about mentality and control. Those who gamble well? They have a plan; they understand when to place a wager and, more importantly, when to give up. Its more important to manage your victories than it is to just win. For the addict, though? The game is different here. Regardless of the outcome, they persist, motivated more by instinct than by planning. And thats the root of the issue.

What if we reinterpret how we view gambling? Rather of concentrating only on gambling, we stress the value of financial knowledge and self-control. Consider a gambling education program that teaches risk assessment and budget management in addition to odds and games. Could this be the turning point that turns gambling from a potentially harmful habit into something more regulated and maybe even enriching? Considerable, isnt it?

Yes you are right that mate those successful gamblers are those gamblers who are actually good in citing where he can put his bet and once when he can stop betting cause once they will win then they will stop. While if we talking about addict either he win or loss still he put his bet spontaneously which is without balancing his finance as long as he can bet then that's okay for him. So there's no addict being successful cause once they will won a big amount then after a few days all thier money will gone because of spending anything.