ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 105.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on September 19, 2013, 10:08:23 PM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on September 19, 2013, 09:22:15 PM

If I had a bitcoin for every post along the lines of "FC is going to post real soon and put our minds to rest about this or that" and it never happens ..... I think we are being trained to not expect regular updates from FC any more. The proof is in the lack of pudding

thats nonsense, FC is going to post real soon and put our minds to rest

Grin

Thank god you said that, I was about to get worried

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on September 19, 2013, 09:22:15 PM

If I had a bitcoin for every post along the lines of "FC is going to post real soon and put our minds to rest about this or that" and it never happens ..... I think we are being trained to not expect regular updates from FC any more. The proof is in the lack of pudding

thats nonsense, FC is going to post real soon and put our minds to rest

Grin

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If I had a bitcoin for every post along the lines of "FC is going to post real soon and put our minds to rest about this or that" and it never happens ..... I think we are being trained to not expect regular updates from FC any more. The proof is in the lack of pudding

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US based, only silentsonicboom is doing AM hardware on big scale. He dropped his prices considerably. 0.125 for USB, and 3.6 and lower for the blades.

Couple of other small time resellers shifted to redfury sticks which are due in October.

I suspect a restocking or new hw being announced soon. HW sales seem big part of the revenue, especially with unkown issues with their mining.

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Quote from: Vycid on September 19, 2013, 11:36:50 AM

Let's talk about the dividend then.

How's the outlook for next week? I heard that if there's no difficulty change that means no franchise income. Is that right?

How about hardware sales? I know people like watching reseller wallets. Is everything in-stock?

only FC can answer those questions, we don't have enough info to go by. We don't know the hardware wallets, that's part of the problem, there were almost 3000 btc from hardware sales from 2 weeks ago that never went to the dividend address, but that estimate was just from looking at reseller/group buy wallets. So, the answer is, we don't know for sure what is coming.

I would like to see a hardware address posted so we can track revenue. FC mentioned it one time, but nothing since. That would help.

Maybe some resellers can comment on things being in stock and the sales rates this week.

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on September 19, 2013, 07:33:12 AM

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I would be so happy if that website simply removed any estimate lower than 3 days.

Your best indicators are the weekly dividend, the mining environment as a whole, and AM's publicly provided schedule for hardware.

Let's talk about the dividend then.

How's the outlook for next week? I heard that if there's no difficulty change that means no franchise income. Is that right?

How about hardware sales? I know people like watching reseller wallets. Is everything in-stock?

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on September 19, 2013, 07:33:12 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I would be so happy if that website simply removed any estimate lower than 3 days.

I'd go further and say that watching the farm hash rate at all is a total waste of time other than to look for obvious and persistent changes (which would be indicated by dividends anyway).

Even the 7-day average can represent bad luck, and it would be close to impossible to confidently distinguish luck from farm growth in that timeframe (unless it were extremely significant growth).

Even if AM published the actual farm hashpower at all times, luck and its results would be the only thing that mattered anyway, and we already have that info.

Your best indicators are the weekly dividend, the mining environment as a whole, and AM's publicly provided schedule for hardware.

I disagree that the weekly dividends are reliable indicators at this point in time. It all about r&D and rollout of gen 2. By your logic, the sell-off would be justified.

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I would be so happy if that website simply removed any estimate lower than 3 days.

I'd go further and say that watching the farm hash rate at all is a total waste of time other than to look for obvious and persistent changes (which would be indicated by dividends anyway).

Even the 7-day average can represent bad luck, and it would be close to impossible to confidently distinguish luck from farm growth in that timeframe (unless it were extremely significant growth).

Even if AM published the actual farm hashpower at all times, luck and its results would be the only thing that mattered anyway, and we already have that info.

Your best indicators are the weekly dividend, the mining environment as a whole, and AM's publicly provided schedule for hardware.

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Have you guys seen this chart. It is really good showing the most active/successful miner groups. You can change the scale and turn on/off options.

good stuff.

http://data.bitcoinity.org/#chaaaddfaa

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Quote from: JimiQ84 on September 19, 2013, 06:17:28 AM

Quote from: lophie on September 19, 2013, 06:16:18 AM

Quote from: JimiQ84 on September 19, 2013, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: 101111 on September 19, 2013, 04:41:38 AM

Is AM hashrate skyrocketing or am seeing things?

your vision is good, it is indeed rising. Though it is probably only luck returning

EDIT: 9% of network as per last 100 blocks

where is this? share a source please.

either this (but it use to be delayed)

or here http://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i count all block rewards with less than 101 confirmations

EDIT: currently 8% per last 100 blocks

we're starting to do pretty good again, let's hope it will stay this way...

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Quote from: lophie on September 19, 2013, 06:16:18 AM

Quote from: JimiQ84 on September 19, 2013, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: 101111 on September 19, 2013, 04:41:38 AM

Is AM hashrate skyrocketing or am seeing things?

your vision is good, it is indeed rising. Though it is probably only luck returning

EDIT: 9% of network as per last 100 blocks

where is this? share a source please.

either this (but it use to be delayed)

or here http://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i count all block rewards with less than 101 confirmations

EDIT: currently 8% per last 100 blocks

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Quote from: JimiQ84 on September 19, 2013, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: 101111 on September 19, 2013, 04:41:38 AM

Is AM hashrate skyrocketing or am seeing things?

your vision is good, it is indeed rising. Though it is probably only luck returning

EDIT: 9% of network as per last 100 blocks

where is this? share a source please.

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Quote from: 101111 on September 19, 2013, 04:41:38 AM

Is AM hashrate skyrocketing or am seeing things?

your vision is good, it is indeed rising. Though it is probably only luck returning

EDIT: 9% of network as per last 100 blocks

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Is AM hashrate skyrocketing or am seeing things?

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Quote from: GodHatesFigs on September 18, 2013, 11:29:33 PM

Quote from: glendall on September 18, 2013, 05:32:22 PM

In my limited view of it, the company is very healthy, a great price at around 2 btc right now, and has the potential to sky-rocket again as there is no way F.C is just sitting somewhere twiddling his thumbs. Guy's gonna pull out an ace, I know it ! (Well, hoping anyways).

"Hope" something happens to push the price back up, when all evidence points against it - great strategy. ASICMiner is finished.

We have no evidence on which to judge the future of AM. But we do have their track record of delivering. Finished? Possibly. But probably not.

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Quote from: Vycid on September 19, 2013, 12:39:52 AM

Friedcat is online. Will he speak to the folk?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/friedcat-49840

Last Active: Today at 05:27:53 AM

so how many shares have you bought at 1.6?

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Friedcat is online. Will he speak to the folk?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/friedcat-49840

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Quote from: glendall on September 18, 2013, 05:32:22 PM

In my limited view of it, the company is very healthy, a great price at around 2 btc right now, and has the potential to sky-rocket again as there is no way F.C is just sitting somewhere twiddling his thumbs. Guy's gonna pull out an ace, I know it ! (Well, hoping anyways).

"Hope" something happens to push the price back up, when all evidence points against it - great strategy. ASICMiner is finished.

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Quote from: velacreations on September 18, 2013, 02:07:00 PM

Quote from: VeeMiner on September 18, 2013, 02:01:33 PM

what I'm trying to say is that there is no significant new information and this is a simple irrational panic sell

yeah, I agree. FC will likely give us an update tomorrow, and the price will bounce up around 2.

How many times I have heard "FC will give us an update soon and all will be rosy in the garden"? Too many. Because it rarely happens these days.

Count how many updates from FC in the last 3 months .... it ain't many.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on September 18, 2013, 07:20:00 PM

lowest dividend yet

but bitcoin is up.

still getting about the same $ / week

It the lowest absolute dividend, but not divident relative to share price which is what is really important.

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