[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 20.

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This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

It's okay.

We usually see those debates that they're bringing because that's what they think. But, let's all wait until the fight day comes and how he'll going to prove them wrong.

So you are rooting for Manny Pacquiao to win this fight? Same here, I'm concern about the odds now, changes now are in favor of Manny Pacquiao.

I check the betting odds are here's the odds movement that I saw.

open at 2.80, rise to 2.80, now at 2.65. ..I guess it will just go down as the fight is approaching.

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This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

It's okay.

We usually see those debates that they're bringing because that's what they think. But, let's all wait until the fight day comes and how he'll going to prove them wrong.

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This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

But as we discuss he's aging now and its dangerous for him to fight young fighters since he may suffer from serious injury if Spencer hit him up harder. Although we know he's legendary but for the fact that his mind is not in focus totally in boxing maybe we should be worried about his incoming fight, his opponent is young and have power to knock off his enemy. I hope Pacquiao will win this fight since this coupd add on his legacy as a legendary boxer.

He understands that he is old but his body is still fit to fight and receive heavy punches. The problem is, we are too concerned with Manny getting injured in the fight but he is just smiling when ask about the fight, meaning he himself knows he can handle the punch of Spence and he can beat Spence.

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This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

But as we discuss he's aging now and its dangerous for him to fight young fighters since he may suffer from serious injury if Spencer hit him up harder. Although we know he's legendary but for the fact that his mind is not in focus totally in boxing maybe we should be worried about his incoming fight, his opponent is young and have power to knock off his enemy. I hope Pacquiao will win this fight since this coupd add on his legacy as a legendary boxer.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 22, 2021, 08:35:41 AM

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Quote from: toast on July 21, 2021, 12:17:51 PM

This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

That would really be easy, as a fan, if we want to make things simple, just follow our heart and bet on the fighter that we think will win, as you are betting and you are cheering, you'll certainly have that fun, and for me, I would stick to my feelings and I feel that Manny will win the fight convincingly.

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Quote from: toast on July 21, 2021, 12:17:51 PM

This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

It's simple, just forget about his age now and remember how he beat his young opponent in his previous fight. I don't understand why some experts really target Manny's age as his weakness when in fact in has not anymore lose in the past fights. They can't believe that Manny is just too rare, he is a legend and he is special, no boxer could beat him now.

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Quote from: toast on July 21, 2021, 12:17:51 PM

This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

His age matters for many fans but I still see him in good shape and I don't think it will be a hindrance with this match.

It's going to be experienced versus toughness and strength for Spence. Well, I still think that Pacquiao is going to get this match after all but I'm not belittling or discrediting the records and experience of Spence Jr.

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Quote from: Jating on July 22, 2021, 05:56:11 AM

As per sportsbet.io

Spence = 1.43
Pacquiao = 2.65

So that's a huge gap in the betting odds, but then again, we all know that Pacquaio is a live underdog here similar to the Thurman fight.

But no other betting options so far, it's just ML. I'm sure boxing bettors are looking for more choice, like per round etc. I'm tempting to put money on Pacquiao with that very attractive odds.

1.43 is a very good odds for a favorite in such a fight. I think that the coefficient for Pacquiao is underestimated and should be more than 4, and for Spence it is about 1.2, but because of the fans who mindlessly bet on Pacquiao, bookmakers give out such coefficients to protect themselves from surprises.

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Is there an odds already for this match? I was just wondering which has the higher odds. I think I will go on pacquiao to match even though there is an age difference pacquiao has an advantage in terms of experience from the previous match of pacquiao i see that he still have the agility and reflexes, one thing is for sure... this is gonna be a great match.

If you go back a few pages, boxing fans know that Pacquiao will be the clear underdog here because he is facing one of the best welterweights right now. So don't be surprised if the line open as Pacquiao as the underdog.

Of course Pacquiao still has it, that's why he wanted to face Spence and prove that again. He might be old but he can still go with the best of them. If you are a crypto bettor, better wait for the lines as it could be a good win for us if we bet early.

It is already available in sportsbet, fortunejack, betfury and betja. The odds are in favor of Spence but if you are a Pacquiao fan, it is good to bet right now as the odds are at 2.65-3.0. We don't know if it will go down once the fight is about to happen. Indeed! This is for me worth watching as who knows, this may be the last fight of the boxing legend Pacquiao? We always want to see a toe-to-toe fight, not a boring one.

As per sportsbet.io

Spence = 1.43
Pacquiao = 2.65

So that's a huge gap in the betting odds, but then again, we all know that Pacquaio is a live underdog here similar to the Thurman fight.

But no other betting options so far, it's just ML. I'm sure boxing bettors are looking for more choice, like per round etc. I'm tempting to put money on Pacquiao with that very attractive odds.

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Is there an odds already for this match? I was just wondering which has the higher odds. I think I will go on pacquiao to match even though there is an age difference pacquiao has an advantage in terms of experience from the previous match of pacquiao i see that he still have the agility and reflexes, one thing is for sure... this is gonna be a great match.

If you go back a few pages, boxing fans know that Pacquiao will be the clear underdog here because he is facing one of the best welterweights right now. So don't be surprised if the line open as Pacquiao as the underdog.

Of course Pacquiao still has it, that's why he wanted to face Spence and prove that again. He might be old but he can still go with the best of them. If you are a crypto bettor, better wait for the lines as it could be a good win for us if we bet early.

It is already available in sportsbet, fortunejack, betfury and betja. The odds are in favor of Spence but if you are a Pacquiao fan, it is good to bet right now as the odds are at 2.65-3.0. We don't know if it will go down once the fight is about to happen. Indeed! This is for me worth watching as who knows, this may be the last fight of the boxing legend Pacquiao? We always want to see a toe-to-toe fight, not a boring one.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on July 21, 2021, 01:00:29 PM

Is there an odds already for this match? I was just wondering which has the higher odds. I think I will go on pacquiao to match even though there is an age difference pacquiao has an advantage in terms of experience from the previous match of pacquiao i see that he still have the agility and reflexes, one thing is for sure... this is gonna be a great match.

If you go back a few pages, boxing fans know that Pacquiao will be the clear underdog here because he is facing one of the best welterweights right now. So don't be surprised if the line open as Pacquiao as the underdog.

Of course Pacquiao still has it, that's why he wanted to face Spence and prove that again. He might be old but he can still go with the best of them. If you are a crypto bettor, better wait for the lines as it could be a good win for us if we bet early.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on July 21, 2021, 01:00:29 PM

Is there an odds already for this match? I was just wondering which has the higher odds. I think I will go on pacquiao to match even though there is an age difference pacquiao has an advantage in terms of experience from the previous match of pacquiao i see that he still have the agility and reflexes, one thing is for sure... this is gonna be a great match.

Odds? You can check these links.
https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/errol-spence-vs-manny-pacquiao-odds-prediction-betting-picks
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/betting-odds-spence-pacquiao-slice-half-las-vegas

Age is also a factor but doesnt mean that we wont be seeing some another good performance from Pacquiao.

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Is there an odds already for this match? I was just wondering which has the higher odds. I think I will go on pacquiao to match even though there is an age difference pacquiao has an advantage in terms of experience from the previous match of pacquiao i see that he still have the agility and reflexes, one thing is for sure... this is gonna be a great match.

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This might be a tough fight for Pacquiao with his age vs the young Errol Spence Jr with a 27 win with 21 KO well this is gonna be interesting match we will see if Pacquiao still can stand against new and young competitors it's nice to see him fight until now, is there an odds already for this match?

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Yes, the victory will be good in any case, but the funny thing is that if it takes place, then many will later say "this is a victory over an old star, now if he was younger ...", and if he cannot win, it will be almost a collapse since everyone will say that he could not defeat the aging champion.

I think we can really take that out in the equation, throughout boxing's history we have seen that.

Just like what Pacquiao did to Oscar, there could be arguments that Oscar by that time is old and can't pull the trigger anymore. So that could be the excuse, but the thing is how that boxer career went after beating a legendary. And we have seen Manny's career flourish after that.

So if ever Spence beat Pacquiao here, he will be judge on how his career will move. He could chase Thurman or Crawford or any other champion in the 147 lbs and could be on the road to become legendary himself, someday.

Still, I think that we cannot discard such statements. Any boxer will eventually lose the title due to age, this is a fact. And the one who defeated him must, by his subsequent actions and victories over other strong boxers in the prime of their years, prove that he has the right to greatness.
In fact, it turns out that this victory will be useless (globally), but defeat in such a fight, one might say, puts an end to the young boxer's claims to greatness.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 21, 2021, 05:19:48 AM

People are not discounting him though, it's such that he is facing a young fighter (again), and the last time we see him face a boxer like this (Thurman) he is the underdog but still won the fight.

Therefore we should not doubt him, he is still the best fighter and we should continue to trust him while he is still winning. Manny is the only underdog in betting, that's it but in real life, you can ask fans and I'm sure most of them will say that Manny will win.

Bookies sees the age gap between the two, not their real skills.

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Spence already has a good streak of victories and I don't think that by itself, beating an aging legend can drastically improve anything. In the end, each legend lost because of age, but we only remember their winners if they themselves became legends or defeated existing legends when they were still in their prime, and not old.

Still good though to have Pacquiao in your resume, yes he could be old, but Manny just came from a Thurman win, have the WBA super welterweight belt, so there are still a lot of weight of a Spence victory here. It's not that he is fighting Pacquiao on the downside of his career, Manny can still pull the trigger and riding on a 3 winning streak if I'm not mistaken, after this controversial lost to Jeff Horn.

Yes, the victory will be good in any case, but the funny thing is that if it takes place, then many will later say "this is a victory over an old star, now if he was younger ...", and if he cannot win, it will be almost a collapse since everyone will say that he could not defeat the aging champion.

We should always remember that Manny is a special boxer, he is not only an ordinary champion, but he is also a legendary champion who is a future Hall of Famer. An 8th division champion against a younger champion, I don't think people should still discount Manny's chances here, yes, he is the underdog in betting, but it should be good for us.

He is once in a lifetime boxer, and I doubt that we are going to see this kind of special boxer, seems that he is an old era type of boxer and maybe not in the next 20-50 years a fighter like Manny would come.

People are not discounting him though, it's such that he is facing a young fighter (again), and the last time we see him face a boxer like this (Thurman) he is the underdog but still won the fight.

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Spence already has a good streak of victories and I don't think that by itself, beating an aging legend can drastically improve anything. In the end, each legend lost because of age, but we only remember their winners if they themselves became legends or defeated existing legends when they were still in their prime, and not old.

Still good though to have Pacquiao in your resume, yes he could be old, but Manny just came from a Thurman win, have the WBA super welterweight belt, so there are still a lot of weight of a Spence victory here. It's not that he is fighting Pacquiao on the downside of his career, Manny can still pull the trigger and riding on a 3 winning streak if I'm not mistaken, after this controversial lost to Jeff Horn.

Yes, the victory will be good in any case, but the funny thing is that if it takes place, then many will later say "this is a victory over an old star, now if he was younger ...", and if he cannot win, it will be almost a collapse since everyone will say that he could not defeat the aging champion.

I think we can really take that out in the equation, throughout boxing's history we have seen that.

Just like what Pacquiao did to Oscar, there could be arguments that Oscar by that time is old and can't pull the trigger anymore. So that could be the excuse, but the thing is how that boxer career went after beating a legendary. And we have seen Manny's career flourish after that.

So if ever Spence beat Pacquiao here, he will be judge on how his career will move. He could chase Thurman or Crawford or any other champion in the 147 lbs and could be on the road to become legendary himself, someday.

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Spence already has a good streak of victories and I don't think that by itself, beating an aging legend can drastically improve anything. In the end, each legend lost because of age, but we only remember their winners if they themselves became legends or defeated existing legends when they were still in their prime, and not old.

Still good though to have Pacquiao in your resume, yes he could be old, but Manny just came from a Thurman win, have the WBA super welterweight belt, so there are still a lot of weight of a Spence victory here. It's not that he is fighting Pacquiao on the downside of his career, Manny can still pull the trigger and riding on a 3 winning streak if I'm not mistaken, after this controversial lost to Jeff Horn.

Yes, the victory will be good in any case, but the funny thing is that if it takes place, then many will later say "this is a victory over an old star, now if he was younger ...", and if he cannot win, it will be almost a collapse since everyone will say that he could not defeat the aging champion.

We should always remember that Manny is a special boxer, he is not only an ordinary champion, but he is also a legendary champion who is a future Hall of Famer. An 8th division champion against a younger champion, I don't think people should still discount Manny's chances here, yes, he is the underdog in betting, but it should be good for us.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 20, 2021, 07:19:17 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 20, 2021, 03:05:47 AM

Spence already has a good streak of victories and I don't think that by itself, beating an aging legend can drastically improve anything. In the end, each legend lost because of age, but we only remember their winners if they themselves became legends or defeated existing legends when they were still in their prime, and not old.

Still good though to have Pacquiao in your resume, yes he could be old, but Manny just came from a Thurman win, have the WBA super welterweight belt, so there are still a lot of weight of a Spence victory here. It's not that he is fighting Pacquiao on the downside of his career, Manny can still pull the trigger and riding on a 3 winning streak if I'm not mistaken, after this controversial lost to Jeff Horn.

Yes, the victory will be good in any case, but the funny thing is that if it takes place, then many will later say "this is a victory over an old star, now if he was younger ...", and if he cannot win, it will be almost a collapse since everyone will say that he could not defeat the aging champion.

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