Topic: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 25. (Read 8251 times)

Quote from: Botnake on July 15, 2021, 04:17:31 PM

just to share the running odds right now for this match.

stake has not listed this yet.
but sportsbet has these odds -

betja odds

but for some reasons, betja is not accepting the bet. pretty attractive odds for pacquiao here

maybe as the match is getting near, the odds for pacquiao might go down a bit. let's see

Very nice odds for Manny Pacquiao, I will definitely take if they'll accept it.

I don't understand why they don't accept the bet if they display the odds? Maybe they just have to disable it so people will not expect it.
My first time to visit this site, are they are reputable site?

Is that really their odds? Mostly, sport bookies odds are very close to each other, but this crypto betting sites is so high. And maybe that is the reason why they are not accepting bets as of this time because they haven't or at least punters may have mistakenly put a wrong odds.

I haven't check the sites but I'm familiar that they did run a signature campaign. Perhaps they are really new in the market and perhaps it was a bug or they really disable for unknown reasons.

In any case, Manny being the underdog is good for us.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 15, 2021, 06:39:10 AM

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betja odds

but for some reasons, betja is not accepting the bet. pretty attractive odds for pacquiao here

Very nice odds for Manny Pacquiao, I will definitely take if they'll accept it.

I don't understand why they don't accept the bet if they display the odds? Maybe they just have to disable it so people will not expect it.
My first time to visit this site, are they are reputable site?

The reputation of that betting site is very questionable, the odds are just a display for nothing if they will not accept a bet, and I think no gambling site would have different odds only to be abuse by the bettors. So, I would say it's just a strategy to let people visit the site and confuse them.

i think we need to contact the betja team why they are not accepting the bet. their odds for Pac is higher than other sportsbookies here that's why it is quite attractive to place bet on them.
i think they are also holding their sig campaign in the forum so i can say they are sincere in promoting their casino. maybe they just need to resolve some of their issues/bugs but should be relayed to the players.

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~snip~

betja odds

but for some reasons, betja is not accepting the bet. pretty attractive odds for pacquiao here

Very nice odds for Manny Pacquiao, I will definitely take if they'll accept it.

I don't understand why they don't accept the bet if they display the odds? Maybe they just have to disable it so people will not expect it.
My first time to visit this site, are they are reputable site?

The reputation of that betting site is very questionable, the odds are just a display for nothing if they will not accept a bet, and I think no gambling site would have different odds only to be abuse by the bettors. So, I would say it's just a strategy to let people visit the site and confuse them.

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Quote from: Questat on July 14, 2021, 03:59:03 PM

just to share the running odds right now for this match.

stake has not listed this yet.
but sportsbet has these odds -

betja odds

but for some reasons, betja is not accepting the bet. pretty attractive odds for pacquiao here

maybe as the match is getting near, the odds for pacquiao might go down a bit. let's see

Very nice odds for Manny Pacquiao, I will definitely take if they'll accept it.

I don't understand why they don't accept the bet if they display the odds? Maybe they just have to disable it so people will not expect it.
My first time to visit this site, are they are reputable site?

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Quote from: blockman on July 12, 2021, 05:54:15 PM

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In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

Yup. As long as he got experienced in both fighting stances with his past matches, he will adjust easily to this match. Although he's right that having a long time that he didn't have any fight against the same, he truly needs more adjustment but we're sure that he's packed up with all of those.

Manny has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and one thing that he will take advantage of Spence being flat-footed. We know that Manny is a very fast fight, he moves a lot in the ring at different angles, so it's hard for an opponent to find a clean shots to hurt him, so the power of Spence will not be used here as speed wins.

No, it doesn't work that way, time preparation should only be 8-9 weeks the most. Fighters doesn't need a lot of time because they are going to hit their peak during that duration of training and they don't want to be over train come fight night. For Pacquiao, it's usually 8 weeks and that is his peak and then at fight night he is all focus and hungry and his body are also in prime to take a lot of hit and give as well.

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just to share the running odds right now for this match.

stake has not listed this yet.
but sportsbet has these odds -

betja odds

but for some reasons, betja is not accepting the bet. pretty attractive odds for pacquiao here

maybe as the match is getting near, the odds for pacquiao might go down a bit. let's see

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In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

Yup. As long as he got experienced in both fighting stances with his past matches, he will adjust easily to this match. Although he's right that having a long time that he didn't have any fight against the same, he truly needs more adjustment but we're sure that he's packed up with all of those.

Manny has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and one thing that he will take advantage of Spence being flat-footed. We know that Manny is a very fast fight, he moves a lot in the ring at different angles, so it's hard for an opponent to find a clean shots to hurt him, so the power of Spence will not be used here as speed wins.

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Did you guys saw the press conference? I like how Spence respects Manny, he looks tense and I don't like his body language, or maybe he is just showing the real him. I hope the odds would not change again because Spence didn't through trash talk to Pacquiao, I don't know, I hope he is focused on beating Pacquiao but Pacquiao was having a good time.

I liked him when I've watched the press conference, my expectation of him was the opposite that he has shown. I guess that this guy should also be loved by other Pacman fans. This now convinces me that we're going to watch a good match between these two and if Manny isn't yet retired after this match, there's a chance that we see a rematch of this too but that's just an assumption from me.

In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

Yup. As long as he got experienced in both fighting stances with his past matches, he will adjust easily to this match. Although he's right that having a long time that he didn't have any fight against the same, he truly needs more adjustment but we're sure that he's packed up with all of those.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 12, 2021, 05:36:04 PM

Did you guys saw the press conference? I like how Spence respects Manny, he looks tense and I don't like his body language, or maybe he is just showing the real him. I hope the odds would not change again because Spence didn't through trash talk to Pacquiao, I don't know, I hope he is focused on beating Pacquiao but Pacquiao was having a good time.

I don't see any unusual thing on that. And that's why I was surprised to see him doing some thrash talking in the media early (maybe to really hype the fight), but he usually respects his opponent and that was evident in the press conference.

Everyone respects Manny though, and those who didn't? they know what's in store for them as Manny will do the talking with his fist, (just like what happen to Thurman).

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In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

Lets put some link for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhwTbug-9NY

I saw this interview too on both fighters, i do like that both is really appreciating others capability in the boxing ring, both are humble i can say and i actually smirked

when the question about Keith thurman. When it comes to that Southpaw thingy i dont see any major issues about the differences.

We will be watching another explosive toe-to-toe fight here. Very far from those exhibition fights. Both are humble and Spence felt honored to face Pacquiao as he considers him as legend in boxing. I don't think we will be hearing trash talks here. This fight will sell even without trash talk. Spence has the advantage of reach and age, but Pacquiao has the experience so this will be a very interesting match to watch out for.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 12, 2021, 04:13:19 PM

In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

Lets put some link for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhwTbug-9NY

I saw this interview too on both fighters, i do like that both is really appreciating others capability in the boxing ring, both are humble i can say and i actually smirked

when the question about Keith thurman. When it comes to that Southpaw thingy i dont see any major issues about the differences.

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In the press conference, when Pacquiao was asked who he thinks the toughest boxer between Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr. , he points out that it's been a long time that he hasn't face a SouthPaw fighter so he can't compare Spence over Thurman. Pacquiao mostly faces an orthodox fighter so he's more of aware countering that stance compares to a SouthPaw. The last time he fought a SouthPaw was in 2008 against David Diaz on which Manny won via impressive Round 9 TKO.

Pacquiao is a Southpaw but it makes me think it's really hard to deal with the same stance as him since most of the time, his counter was only meant for an orthodox stance. However, should not be a problem for an experienced boxer like him.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 12, 2021, 08:23:02 AM

That's a humble statement by Spence, others would say that Pacquiao has slowed down and he is not the old Pacquiao, but Spence still consider Pacquiao as a tough opponent that has a chance to beat him, so he will train hard, give his best, and focus on winning. I'm sure Pacquiao is also doing the same but when he is confident, I like that.

This is the first time I saw Manny's opponent is very humble, if we look at them, it looks like Manny was the champion and Spence is the challenger, something is weird, we might see a surprising outcome in this game. on the other hand, if we look at Spence, he is so big and tall for Manny, but I trust Manny could handle that as his been in a lot of big battles before.

I saw their photoshoot and press conference together and I can say that Spence is very humble despite of his clean record since he's facing Manny, and he gives so much respect. He looks more scary at the court, so this is a warning to Manny that he should not take advantage Spence, he might be a silent killer and Manny should take this seriously to win the match.

^ Definitely right, one thing that comes up in my mind is that Spence was declared a challenging fight against Manny Pacquiao just because of the money and now he knows that Manny Pacquiao is the most6 stronger fighter on his level and hold many title or belts. On the other side, Manny Pacquiao should take it seriously, we don't know there could be a chance that Pacquiao will put in danger on this fight and became a loss. And if ever Manny Pacquiao will lose pon this fight, I think it is time for him to retire and focus his political career.

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Quote from: mirakal on July 12, 2021, 08:23:02 AM

That's a humble statement by Spence, others would say that Pacquiao has slowed down and he is not the old Pacquiao, but Spence still consider Pacquiao as a tough opponent that has a chance to beat him, so he will train hard, give his best, and focus on winning. I'm sure Pacquiao is also doing the same but when he is confident, I like that.

This is the first time I saw Manny's opponent is very humble, if we look at them, it looks like Manny was the champion and Spence is the challenger, something is weird, we might see a surprising outcome in this game. on the other hand, if we look at Spence, he is so big and tall for Manny, but I trust Manny could handle that as his been in a lot of big battles before.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 12, 2021, 08:06:48 AM

Did you guys saw the press conference? I like how Spence respects Manny, he looks tense and I don't like his body language, or maybe he is just showing the real him. I hope the odds would not change again because Spence didn't through trash talk to Pacquiao, I don't know, I hope he is focused on beating Pacquiao but Pacquiao was having a good time.

There is no unusual to that. Spence really behaves like that. I'm not seeing the odds will change just because of his behaviour at the press conference.

I'm sure Spence Jr. is really focused. It's the fight he is waiting for.

I like his view towards his upcoming fight against Manny.

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“I feel like he’s a boxer 24/7 year-round. So I feel like that helps him also with his age and things like that. That’s why he’s the same Manny Pacquiao for years and decades because he’s a guy that takes care of his body and is disciplined, as I said.

So that’s what I’m looking for, the Manny Pacquiao that fought Keith Thurman and the Manny Pacquiao before that.

So that’s why I’m going to train and train hard. I don’t believe in overtraining because your body is going to go what you’re adapted to. So I feel like I can’t overtrain,” said Spence.

I’m not predicting that, but as I said, I’m doing my best to focus on my training, especially to focus my mind on winning the fight."

That's a humble statement by Spence, others would say that Pacquiao has slowed down and he is not the old Pacquiao, but Spence still consider Pacquiao as a tough opponent that has a chance to beat him, so he will train hard, give his best, and focus on winning. I'm sure Pacquiao is also doing the same but when he is confident, I like that.

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