{Boxing} Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas - page 25.

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Both fighters are well prepared

They are both conditioned physically because they've been training for their own scheduled fights but I wouldn't say they are both mentally ready. Finding the opponent's weakness and formulating strategies for the fight are important factors and I think Manny is at a disadvantage in that area. He is a dream fight for almost all fighters and I'm pretty sure many of them already studied him. In Manny's case, he doesn't know much about Ugas and he's given a short time to prepare.

As I have said previously in the other thread, I do hope that Manny won't fall on the 'replacement curse' because this will be the worst defeat ever. But as far as the odds goes, he is the favorite. And knowing Manny's experience and ring IQ, I think he can still overcome and adjust as the round goes and fight the fights that he wants and not to give Ugas breathing room and be comfortable as the fight progresses, so for me it will be Manny by UD, maybe 8 round to 4.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 12, 2021, 08:26:25 PM

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Both fighters are well prepared

They are both conditioned physically because they've been training for their own scheduled fights but I wouldn't say they are both mentally ready. Finding the opponent's weakness and formulating strategies for the fight are important factors and I think Manny is at a disadvantage in that area. He is a dream fight for almost all fighters and I'm pretty sure many of them already studied him. In Manny's case, he doesn't know much about Ugas and he's given a short time to prepare.

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Against Spence, Pacquiao was the underdog. But here, he is the favorite, and that too by a big margin. The last time I checked the odds, Pacquiao was at -310, while Yordenis Ugás is placed at +245. I spoke to a few of my friends, and none of them think that Ugás is a good opponent for Pacquiao. Shawn Porter won against Ugás in 2019, and a few months later, he went down against Errol Spence Jr. So gives an idea about his strength. I know he is a late replacement, but it is really disappointing. I am expecting a lop-sided match.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2021, 07:50:26 PM

I would still consider Ugas to be in his prime despite being 35 years old. He did good against Shawn Porter but lost a controversial decision. He is still a paper champion though and that is why he is the underdog. If he wins this fight it would be one of the biggest upsets in recent history. I think the most likely outcome is a wide decision win by Pacquiao.

Both fighters are well prepared Ugas knows that this is a gigantic task for him and if he upsets Pacquiao it could be the biggest upsets in history much better than the Horn fight, but I don't think Ugas will resort to dirty tactics just like what Horn did to Pacquiao, Ugas has a clean record and he has no haters, it's going to be an interesting fight for all of us.

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So Errol fight is cancelled and then Ugas comes in to save it. He doesn't have a good boxing record but I guess in his mind it's still a fair fight after all Pacquaio is old.
But this could be a bad bet for him. If he just watches carefully Pacquiao is a superhuman that this boxer didn't grow older. Watching his sparing videos, he has the will and body that doesn't give up yet.

There is no formal report about Error's eyes for us to see really. I really think he just back away seeing this is a danger to his record.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

This is a one-sided fight if we look at their performances in their past fights but things always have different results when it comes to reality and I believe this is the first time where Manny Pacquiao has the advantage when it comes to experience and skills. Many people think this upcoming fight is only a show for Manny to boost his popularity for the upcoming election but people will have a full comments with this when they see the result of the fight. My prediction is total domination and Ugas is just a prop here.

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I would still consider Ugas to be in his prime despite being 35 years old. He did good against Shawn Porter but lost a controversial decision. He is still a paper champion though and that is why he is the underdog. If he wins this fight it would be one of the biggest upsets in recent history. I think the most likely outcome is a wide decision win by Pacquiao.

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Looks like Pacquiao's still the favor for this match, well, he was prepared when it was with Spence and now he's with (unprepared?) Ugas.

Quote from: harizen on August 12, 2021, 06:59:23 PM

Ugas title of SuperWelterweigth was earned because it was granted by WBA as the previous holder Pacquiao is inactive. He didn't earn it thru a match so this is the best time he can show the world that he deserves the title.

But I'm still rooting Pacquiao can pull this off even if he's aged to Ugas and might be back again to the former holder of the belt. Who knows? Time will tell in the coming days.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 12, 2021, 05:54:11 PM

I am yet to watch any fights of Yordenis Ugas live but Manny Pacquiao is too strong technically for this kid.

Actually, Yordenis Ugas is now in his post-prime age. He is now 35 years of age so even behind 7 years of age to Pacquiao, he is now considered as a veteran boxer unlike the likes of Spence Jr, Thurman, Crawford, etc. that can still be considered as a "kid" if they will face Pacquiao.

Ugas title of SuperWelterweigth was earned because it was granted by WBA as the previous holder Pacquiao is inactive. He didn't earn it thru a match so this is the best time he can show the world that he deserves the title.

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You bet on Manny Pacquiao and your $1000 will only win $260, unlike the in Spence fight that your $1000 could win $1700.
Though the odds provider is right, Ugas is not really the same level with Spence or Manny, so he is the underdog.

Very different from Spence, that's why he's now the underdog, but along the way still fine since he's a replacement and glad that they quickly find him to continue the fight instead of cancelling it completely.

Well, that is -- and perhaps many of bettors and now disappointed on this sudden decision.
But who knows the underdog of this match will win? What do you think? Is Ugas have a chance to win against Manny Pacquiao. The odds are now changed and perhaps many bettors withdrawing their bets right now. But anyway, there are few days to fix this all and I am expected that Manny Pacquiao will win on this match, another massive income for him and just easy money since his opponent consider as an underdog.

this is why a lot are formulating conspiracy theories that ugas' camp knew all along that he will fight pacquiao. and that spence followed mayweather's advice. but who knows the truth here? but i do agree, a lot of boxing fans are really disappointed about the turn of events. we thought we will see a very good fight one last chance from pacquiao before he finally hangs his gloves. but then again, just be grateful that the fight is not totally cancelled
right now, betting on pacquiao is not really worth it. unless you bet big on him.

Can't blame the fans to get disappointed on how the event turns since it only few weeks left before the fight happens but unfortunately it was cancelled due to some unfortunate events. As I read on the media sites that so many Americans has been disappointed with spence right now but we need the man to take a break and hopefully he will have speedy recovery, but good thing the fight of Pacquiao will still happen and I do agree with their team said that they shouldn't underestimate Ugas since he's still a great fighter and can able to defeat Pacquaio if he can throw good punches in the ring.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

If Mayweather comes out of retirement to face Manny Pacquiao there is no doubt that it would become the biggest PPV event even if it scheduled in a short period of time. But Mayweather will not accept a fight against Manny Pacquiao in a short period because he knows the risk involved and he will do anything to keep his undefeated record intact Grin

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I am yet to watch any fights of Yordenis Ugas live but Manny Pacquiao is too strong technically for this kid.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?

I'm 100% sure they didn't offer that to Mayweather. It's impossible for that boxer to just accept any offer even for an exhibition match. Remember that it takes several years in the making when he decided to accept Pacquiao's challenge so what's more in a sudden replacement.

Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 12, 2021, 05:08:41 PM

this is why a lot are formulating conspiracy theories that ugas' camp knew all along that he will fight pacquiao. and that spence followed mayweather's advice.

Been reading this too but want to take it lightly. For let's say it's true, the advantage is Spence Jr can still prepare for long and while the time is passing, Pacquiao is now hitting the retirement and aging. Knowing Pacquiao, he can accept any challenge but his body might not cooperate in a hard boxing match 2-3 years from now or should I say, even for a year. The same goes for what Mayweather did when he avoid Manny during the people's champ prime and fierce days.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on August 12, 2021, 04:57:33 PM

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Quote from: Japinat on August 12, 2021, 04:30:37 PM

You bet on Manny Pacquiao and your $1000 will only win $260, unlike the in Spence fight that your $1000 could win $1700.
Though the odds provider is right, Ugas is not really the same level with Spence or Manny, so he is the underdog.

Very different from Spence, that's why he's now the underdog, but along the way still fine since he's a replacement and glad that they quickly find him to continue the fight instead of cancelling it completely.

Well, that is -- and perhaps many of bettors and now disappointed on this sudden decision.
But who knows the underdog of this match will win? What do you think? Is Ugas have a chance to win against Manny Pacquiao. The odds are now changed and perhaps many bettors withdrawing their bets right now. But anyway, there are few days to fix this all and I am expected that Manny Pacquiao will win on this match, another massive income for him and just easy money since his opponent consider as an underdog.

this is why a lot are formulating conspiracy theories that ugas' camp knew all along that he will fight pacquiao. and that spence followed mayweather's advice. but who knows the truth here? but i do agree, a lot of boxing fans are really disappointed about the turn of events. we thought we will see a very good fight one last chance from pacquiao before he finally hangs his gloves. but then again, just be grateful that the fight is not totally cancelled
right now, betting on pacquiao is not really worth it. unless you bet big on him.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 12, 2021, 04:30:37 PM

You bet on Manny Pacquiao and your $1000 will only win $260, unlike the in Spence fight that your $1000 could win $1700.
Though the odds provider is right, Ugas is not really the same level with Spence or Manny, so he is the underdog.

Very different from Spence, that's why he's now the underdog, but along the way still fine since he's a replacement and glad that they quickly find him to continue the fight instead of cancelling it completely.

Well, that is -- and perhaps many of bettors and now disappointed on this sudden decision.
But who knows the underdog of this match will win? What do you think? Is Ugas have a chance to win against Manny Pacquiao. The odds are now changed and perhaps many bettors withdrawing their bets right now. But anyway, there are few days to fix this all and I am expected that Manny Pacquiao will win on this match, another massive income for him and just easy money since his opponent consider as an underdog.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?

It's not Pacquiao that found replacement for Errol's match but AFAIK, Ugas is an undercard that's now going to replace Errol to fight Pacquaio. But there were some news lately that Pacquiao isn't accepting the last minute replacement made by Spence's team. It made confused then but later on, some news came out that it's all in and Pacquiao's fine with that replacement. With this match, a lot of speculations were made and thought something about the sudden eye injury by Errol. It's going to be a week and two days and that's quick days to come.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 12, 2021, 04:30:37 PM

You bet on Manny Pacquiao and your $1000 will only win $260, unlike the in Spence fight that your $1000 could win $1700.
Though the odds provider is right, Ugas is not really the same level with Spence or Manny, so he is the underdog.

Very different from Spence, that's why he's now the underdog, but along the way still fine since he's a replacement and glad that they quickly find him to continue the fight instead of cancelling it completely.

As a fan, that odd for Manny is fair enough, though if Spence didn't cancel his presence, then the odd is really better than this one.

Hope for the best, Manny from the bookies it said that he's the favorite here! Good luck!

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 12, 2021, 04:24:35 PM

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Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

I’m wondering for the same thing and it looks like the whole thing are being planned according to Many’s will. Despite of the record with Ugas and being an Olympic medalist, I also believe that Manny is too much for him and seeing the odds now, Manny leads on it. Maybe those who bought their ticket will refund it out of disappointment.

^ Definitely right and how about in the bookie's odds?
There are a lot of changes with this fight and even bettings sites now are probably changing their odds right now. It could be Manny is too much but there is also a potential that his opponent will win this match. The thing that I have on my mind now is the preparation of Yordenis Ugas, it seems it needs days more to go than having trained for almost a month, what a great advantage of Manny Pacquiao. This is a very interesting fight and who will gonna win.

Yordenis Ugas is scheduled to fight in the undercard of the scrapped Pacquiao vs Spence match so he has been training for months now, I supposed.

Even though Ugas younger than Manny, the latter is not known for his power and speed so I think this could be easy work for Manny.

I just could not imagine the feelings of the fans who bought and anticipate action with Manny vs Spence because this fight could be one-sided and boring to watch and may end up just like a sparring session for Manny.

I would be betting for Manny by decision, though this could be a one-sided affair I doubt Manny could KO Ugas.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 12, 2021, 04:24:35 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on August 12, 2021, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

I’m wondering for the same thing and it looks like the whole thing are being planned according to Many’s will. Despite of the record with Ugas and being an Olympic medalist, I also believe that Manny is too much for him and seeing the odds now, Manny leads on it. Maybe those who bought their ticket will refund it out of disappointment.

^ Definitely right and how about in the bookie's odds?
There are a lot of changes with this fight and even bettings sites now are probably changing their odds right now. It could be Manny is too much but there is also a potential that his opponent will win this match. The thing that I have on my mind now is the preparation of Yordenis Ugas, it seems it needs days more to go than having trained for almost a month, what a great advantage of Manny Pacquiao. This is a very interesting fight and who will gonna win.

Betting odds have changed a lot.

Quote from: Viscore on August 12, 2021, 08:43:40 AM

For betting odds.

1.26 - Manny Pacquiao
3.55 - Yordenis Ugas

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/pacquiao-manny-ugas-yordenis-6113dae9ea140a8c358f9eaa

You bet on Manny Pacquiao and your $1000 will only win $260, unlike the in Spence fight that your $1000 could win $1700.
Though the odds provider is right, Ugas is not really the same level with Spence or Manny, so he is the underdog.

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Quote from: goaldigger on August 12, 2021, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

I’m wondering for the same thing and it looks like the whole thing are being planned according to Many’s will. Despite of the record with Ugas and being an Olympic medalist, I also believe that Manny is too much for him and seeing the odds now, Manny leads on it. Maybe those who bought their ticket will refund it out of disappointment.

^ Definitely right and how about in the bookie's odds?
There are a lot of changes with this fight and even bettings sites now are probably changing their odds right now. It could be Manny is too much but there is also a potential that his opponent will win this match. The thing that I have on my mind now is the preparation of Yordenis Ugas, it seems it needs days more to go than having trained for almost a month, what a great advantage of Manny Pacquiao. This is a very interesting fight and who will gonna win.

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Quote from: goaldigger on August 12, 2021, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on August 12, 2021, 09:23:53 AM

Pacquaio found a replacement so quickly. I wonder if they offer this to Mayweather?
If will still make them good money for the match, people may even cancel schedules to see them again in the ring. I dont't really see Ugas to be a good contender.

I’m wondering for the same thing and it looks like the whole thing are being planned according to Many’s will. Despite of the record with Ugas and being an Olympic medalist, I also believe that Manny is too much for him and seeing the odds now, Manny leads on it. Maybe those who bought their ticket will refund it out of disappointment.

That's another thing, for sure a lot of changes will happen and not for the benefit of fighters, but anyway, since Manny wish Errol Spence a fast recovery, maybe Manny has already accepted it and has moved on, this fight might not bring him the money he expected but he can still be profitable in this fight.

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