Topic: [Boxing] Pacquiao vs Matthysse July 15 2018 - page 12. (Read 1278 times)

Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2018, 05:39:51 PM

Quote from: Quesdana on April 28, 2018, 05:33:19 AM

"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

Yes, it was a beautiful fight. Matthysse took the first few rounds, but Ruslan come back in the latter and knock down Lucas in 11th if I'm not mistaken but he lost that fight. Lucas gave everything against that granite chin of Ruslan and he took it resulting in his face swollen as hell. (ruslan though easily cuts, that is his main issue though).

That's why Lucas in his prime, but I think he can still give the same performance against Pacquiao as he is really one of the hardest puncher out there. So it going to be exciting fight.

I have hesitation on whether Pacquiao will win this fight. Manny's loss to that Australian boxer should be the trigger point for Manny Pacquiao to retire and hang his gloves. He is a sure Hall of Famer and i hate to see him lose again if ever. The speed and footwork that i love about Pacquiao is no longer there. I hope i am wrong when the fight happens.

Do you really think that Manny lost to Jeff Horn? Based on the Compubox Twitter account, Manny outlanded Horn 11 out of the 12 rounds. I don't know how he lost. Its clearly a robbery. So don't consider his last fight the trigger point just because technically lost. But other stats and boxing pundits here will say that Manny hands should be raised that day. Well he wasn't at this best that time, but given that fact he still should win that fight.

You guys should stop arguing about Manny's last fight. He already lost, although questionable we should move on.

Regarding his fight with Mattysse, this fight will really gives us a preview as how Manny's fighting condition, both physically and emotionally are. Yes, he chooses a dangerous opponent and he gets KTFO then we can say that its really time to reconsider hanging up his gloves. But if he won, convincingly, I have no doubt that he will continue to fight maybe around 2 more money fights before finally saying it quit.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2018, 05:39:51 PM

Quote from: Quesdana on April 28, 2018, 05:33:19 AM

"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

Yes, it was a beautiful fight. Matthysse took the first few rounds, but Ruslan come back in the latter and knock down Lucas in 11th if I'm not mistaken but he lost that fight. Lucas gave everything against that granite chin of Ruslan and he took it resulting in his face swollen as hell. (ruslan though easily cuts, that is his main issue though).

That's why Lucas in his prime, but I think he can still give the same performance against Pacquiao as he is really one of the hardest puncher out there. So it going to be exciting fight.

I have hesitation on whether Pacquiao will win this fight. Manny's loss to that Australian boxer should be the trigger point for Manny Pacquiao to retire and hang his gloves. He is a sure Hall of Famer and i hate to see him lose again if ever. The speed and footwork that i love about Pacquiao is no longer there. I hope i am wrong when the fight happens.

Do you really think that Manny lost to Jeff Horn? Based on the Compubox Twitter account, Manny outlanded Horn 11 out of the 12 rounds. I don't know how he lost. Its clearly a robbery. So don't consider his last fight the trigger point just because technically lost. But other stats and boxing pundits here will say that Manny hands should be raised that day. Well he wasn't at this best that time, but given that fact he still should win that fight.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2018, 05:39:51 PM

"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

Yes, it was a beautiful fight. Matthysse took the first few rounds, but Ruslan come back in the latter and knock down Lucas in 11th if I'm not mistaken but he lost that fight. Lucas gave everything against that granite chin of Ruslan and he took it resulting in his face swollen as hell. (ruslan though easily cuts, that is his main issue though).

That's why Lucas in his prime, but I think he can still give the same performance against Pacquiao as he is really one of the hardest puncher out there. So it going to be exciting fight.

I have hesitation on whether Pacquiao will win this fight. Manny's loss to that Australian boxer should be the trigger point for Manny Pacquiao to retire and hang his gloves. He is a sure Hall of Famer and i hate to see him lose again if ever. The speed and footwork that i love about Pacquiao is no longer there. I hope i am wrong when the fight happens.

I share the same views to some extent because Manny seems to be done a long time ago but what if he manages to win this one? It means he can keep making a few more bucks before he finally hangs his gloves and if he looses i guess it will signal the end to him better than anything else so lets leave him to test his strength but i wish for his hard-earned reputation he stayed away from fighting again.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2018, 05:39:51 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2018, 05:39:51 PM

"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

Yes, it was a beautiful fight. Matthysse took the first few rounds, but Ruslan come back in the latter and knock down Lucas in 11th if I'm not mistaken but he lost that fight. Lucas gave everything against that granite chin of Ruslan and he took it resulting in his face swollen as hell. (ruslan though easily cuts, that is his main issue though).

That's why Lucas in his prime, but I think he can still give the same performance against Pacquiao as he is really one of the hardest puncher out there. So it going to be exciting fight.

I have hesitation on whether Pacquiao will win this fight. Manny's loss to that Australian boxer should be the trigger point for Manny Pacquiao to retire and hang his gloves. He is a sure Hall of Famer and i hate to see him lose again if ever. The speed and footwork that i love about Pacquiao is no longer there. I hope i am wrong when the fight happens.

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"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

Yes, it was a beautiful fight. Matthysse took the first few rounds, but Ruslan come back in the latter and knock down Lucas in 11th if I'm not mistaken but he lost that fight. Lucas gave everything against that granite chin of Ruslan and he took it resulting in his face swollen as hell. (ruslan though easily cuts, that is his main issue though).

That's what's Lucas in his prime, but I think he can still give the same performance against Pacquiao as he is really one of the hardest puncher out there. So it going to be exciting fight.

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"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

Pacquaio is right and he is not bragging that he can't beat easily Matthysse.

Out of confusion on how this Matthysse style of fight, I watched some his highlights and the best one I saw is this:

Lucas Matthysse vs Ruslan Provodnikov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DeKs5hS-k8 )

That is one the best Junior Welterweights battle I have watched. Matthysse won the fight via majority decision.

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Quote from: Jating on April 18, 2018, 06:46:22 PM

"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

That's what I like about Pacquiao, not bragging his achievement as basis that he can overthrow an opponent.

And you know what's the interesting part of this statement? He is the one who chooses his own opponent, away from the shadow of his former promoter Bob Arum who just picks and picks and picks any boxer. Since under contract, no way Manny will just argue for the selected boxer that will placed on fight.

Matthysee is a solid fighter and hope that he can bring up the old style of Manny Pacquiao.

It is just me or both of the fighters really looks old,

https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-manny-pacquiao-lucas-matthysse-go-face-face--127283

Lucas Matthysse is the younger fighter between the two but he looks like the older way older. Maybe I hasn't followed his fights lately that's why I was quite surprised to see him this way.

Because of the hairy characteristics of South Americans or even the Americans itself, they are looking more matured than Asian people, well based on my observation. Just look at NBA players, around 18 or mid 20's looks like an early 40's here in our country.

P.S Hey I don't mean anything here.

Previously when he was still under Bob's Arum management, he can't really pick his opponent because the team wanted to "cherry-pick" his opponent to make him really good, although its really hard to see Manny banging up with big guys at at 147 lbs and above specially Margarito who is almost a full Middleweight to Super Middle when all hydrated.

Going back to Lucas, yeah maybe he looks older because Asians tends to look younger than their actual age. Maybe Lucas was still out of shape or not on fighting form that's why I observed that he is just a tad older looking than Manny. But its all good man, I truly understand what you are saying here.

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"I picked a dangerous opponent in Matthysse. He's a champion but I do believe that we can box him and control the fight," said Pacquiao.

That's what I like about Pacquiao, not bragging his achievement as basis that he can overthrow an opponent.

And you know what's the interesting part of this statement? He is the one who chooses his own opponent, away from the shadow of his former promoter Bob Arum who just picks and picks and picks any boxer. Since under contract, no way Manny will just argue for the selected boxer that will placed on fight.

Matthysee is a solid fighter and hope that he can bring up the old style of Manny Pacquiao.

Quote from: Jating on April 18, 2018, 06:46:22 PM

It is just me or both of the fighters really looks old,

https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-manny-pacquiao-lucas-matthysse-go-face-face--127283

Lucas Matthysse is the younger fighter between the two but he looks like the older way older. Maybe I hasn't followed his fights lately that's why I was quite surprised to see him this way.

Because of the hairy characteristics of South Americans or even the Americans itself, they are looking more matured than Asian people, well based on my observation. Just look at NBA players, around 18 or mid 20's looks like an early 40's here in our country.

P.S Hey I don't mean anything here.

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It is just me or both of the fighters really looks old,

https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-manny-pacquiao-lucas-matthysse-go-face-face--127283

Lucas Matthysse is the younger fighter between the two but he looks like the older way older. Maybe I hasn't followed his fights lately that's why I was quite surprised to see him this way.

Love what I read here:

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Quote from: markdario112616 on April 18, 2018, 04:57:50 AM

I found a good article about the supposedly divorced of Manny and coach Freddie.

https://ph.yahoo.com/sports/freddie-roach-isnt-mad-things-ended-manny-pacquiao-just-disappointed-005848468.html

There's nothing that shows the link.

But when I googled it this showed, http://sport360.com/article/other/boxing/277134/manny-pacquiao-says-no-decision-on-trainer-yet-and-denies-rift-with-coach-freddie-roach

Let's wait until Manny contacts him few more months before the fight and he needs to be trained but if this never happens, their long time tied up will be gone.

Weird. I also try to access the link today and it was not there as well. It just points me back to the default yahoo homepage. Sorry about that mate.

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“If Manny would have called me and told me what he wanted to do, it would have been a perfect ending, but I learned a long time ago life is not perfect,” Roach said. “If there is anything I’m disappointed in about this, obviously, it’s that I had to read it in the newspaper and I didn’t hear it from Manny first. That stings a little, and it’s disappointing, but there are no hard feelings.

I'm not aware that Coach Roach utter this nor any articles about this issue.

Well, Manny might have his own reason but his justification to further, in this case, I think is useless. Damage has been done and decisions are already final (I guess, not unless MP would call roach at the last minute). Too bad for Coach Roach, but we can't blame MP for this (not because I'm a fan) he has the right to chose his trainer and teammates but rather than it's still heartbreaking in the other side.

On the brighter side (I guess), Buboy was in Manny's team for a long a time, He must have known Pacquiao's style and I hope he could train him as good as Roach nor much better.

Right, Buboy has been with Manny even before Roach becomes the head trainer of Manny. And I sure that he had learn a lot from Roach. Just sad though to see them separated when Manny is in the twilight of his career. But I'm sure that they can't just each other and sooner or later they might patch things and settle everything outside of the boxing arena.

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“If Manny would have called me and told me what he wanted to do, it would have been a perfect ending, but I learned a long time ago life is not perfect,” Roach said. “If there is anything I’m disappointed in about this, obviously, it’s that I had to read it in the newspaper and I didn’t hear it from Manny first. That stings a little, and it’s disappointing, but there are no hard feelings.

I'm not aware that Coach Roach utter this nor any articles about this issue.

Well, Manny might have his own reason but his justification to further, in this case, I think is useless. Damage has been done and decisions are already final (I guess, not unless MP would call roach at the last minute). Too bad for Coach Roach, but we can't blame MP for this (not because I'm a fan) he has the right to chose his trainer and teammates but rather than it's still heartbreaking in the other side.

On the brighter side (I guess), Buboy was in Manny's team for a long a time, He must have known Pacquiao's style and I hope he could train him as good as Roach nor much better.

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