Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions (Read 28063 times)

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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1787963341446533159

I think he should be vacating his belt at 160 lbs, or at least he should be stripped already because of inactivity and then this case. No more favoritism so that other boxers can fight it out as he holds the WBC belt.

@inthelongrun. This is my reply in King Ry vs. Haney thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64042433

I reckon if that is correct, everyone who has said many negative things will feel stupid again very much similar when they felt stupid after King Ry's victory because they have been tricked again by team Ryan heehhehe.

Whatever Ryan says, he needs to prove himself that he is really clean. Who cares about him fighting overweight, Haney accepted the money so that was already fair. What's unfair is if Ryan is really positive of those banned substances. He already has a week I guess to prove. If he is doubtful with VADA then he can also apply for testing thru various private and government testing agencies.

My personal view, I think Ryan did not care about using illegal substances just like coming into the weigh-in overweight. His goal was to beat Haney at all cost. And even if the fight will be changed into a no-contest, he still gained millions of followers and will continue to spread that he is clean and that he is played by groups that wanted to discredit his win over Haney.

Conor will be sleeping on a stretcher being pulled by uncle Dana.

It also appears King Ry is presently the most popular name in boxing. Canelo's fight vs. the other Mexican boxer I did not know was finished already! I was watching only UFC hehehehe. How was Canelo and his young Mexican opponent? Was this exciting for another forgetful fight? There is not much fans talking about this, I reckon. Much of the attention is still on King Ry hhehehee.

Also, Inoue was also not very thrilling after round 1. He should again go to a heavier weight division and challenge a good boxer with a name similar to Brandon Figueroa. This might make Inoue's name more known to American fans. Stephen Fulton appear to have not done this for him.

Well, that what actually happens and what many great fighters or boxers do, they only fight by risking the money they can get from the fight in progress.
It not about who the winner is or who will be destroyed, even fight like that won't affect fighter career because they do it for money, not to fight for championship title.
It just that I not sure fight like this will happen, after all Ryan is great boxer and without doing fight like that he could already make lot of money.

But speaking of Ryan Garcia, it looks like we will see rematch with Haney and it will again be an interesting fight.
I read it even though it old news but honestly I only found out now that Haney is ready to fight Ryan again, after the previous fight I was skeptical about rematch but now I see chance it could happen again.

It is huge money for sure and these two surely love that and yes that fight will be an exhibition for sure well just because Conor McGregor is not really a boxer but he can box, and with this post of Ryan Garcia for sure this kind of post is for hype purposes and for fans to make more talk or for sponsors to be interested, this surely is just for hype but an intricate kind of thing. for me, this is another kind of fight that will be one-sided honestly.


This is not sure if the fight will take place or manifest as they are just teasing something to happen but for now, I will not put my hopes up as you all know this might be another 1 sided fight as we all know Conor McGregor lost to Mayweather but as we don't know if he is a different fighter right now but as of today Ryan Garcia is more bulkier now defeating Devin Haney but I think Ryan Garcia missed the weight and fighting Haney with a heavier weight and being positive in using performance-enhancing drugs.

For me, there is still not a 100% assurance that these two will fight after Conor McGregor twitted and this is what he said


After that Ryan Garcia got his fingers typing something for Conor McGregor and the rest is history for sure Conor McGregor has gotten the name of O'Malley so sure let's wait if Sean O'Malley will say something about this aswell as all three of them has a huge mouth and for sure will not stop in spouting something.

That's how big mouth Conor is, he will bite on everything, he loves media attention and so he got it right now with his opinion and then attacking Ryan. And it's obvious that Ryan will bark back at Conor with all the allegations and stuff.

I do agree, it will all be for the money, then maybe in the future they are going to fight each other unless Conor goes back to UFC again and not become a entertainer. This drama will go and of course, we want to hear Ryan's name being cleared by VADA or USADA or whatever body handles the drug testing.

Still early to say if this fight is going to happen or not, maybe Conor is telling his opinion, he even says the O'Malley was also in this drugs, so it's not just Ryan that he is attacking here. But in any case if Conor wants it and because this two are loudmouth that obviously they can set up a fight and make a lot of money between them. But all advantage will be on Ryan here, Conor fought a boxer before in Floyd and he didn't win. And Conor's stamina after round 3 is also suspected as most of his defeats are due on him having no gas tank in the latter rounds so he got knockout.

Bottomline, if they see huge amount of money on this, they will not think twice to push it. But the possibility will be under exhibition fight. No belts on the line. These days, you won't be surprise happening this kind of match. Money seems to sway the decision of these fighters.

^^ And this is what Ryan has to say against McGregor,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1786462011968369115

Are we going to see Conor vs Ryan in the future?  for the biggest cross-over fight? UFC vs Boxer?

Funny thing is, everyone is jumping on the bandwagon including one of the biggest UFC superstar during his prime, LOL. Ryan denied it already, so for now let's give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he submitted again and failed then maybe there is truth on it.

However, they were happy to take the money of Ryan for the weight penalty. That means the fight was legit and beat Haney. I think they are ganging up together to take that win from Ryan again. They were not very happy with the result since they did all they could in the ring and was never enough and now they are trying to discredit it that he cheated by the allegations he was using PEDs.

And it's becoming political now that Ryan is promoting Trump as well. The Haneys are yet not done and then Mcgregor is also inserting himself into this mess.

Meanwhile, biggest news in boxing at the moment which seems to outshine Canelo-Mungia and Inoue-Nery.



So far Ryan Garcia denied that he used PEDs and that there are people behind it that will take his victory over Haney a few days ago. I am not really that surprised. Ryan went into a different approach against Haney, did not care about the title when he did not tried to make the weight. He seems to not care about legacy in boxing but he wanted to beat Haney at all cost because it will make him more popular as a social media influencer. Ryan can leave boxing and he is still very rich. We'll what happens next but I still trust VADA than USADA and other drug testing associations.

That's correct, they are still young and still has a lot of fight to finish, just look at Haney for example, we thought that he'll be the next Mayweather as he has the size and the quickness to move up, but he loss to Ryan Garcia who is a heavy underdog at that time. So there's no guarantee on how they'll finish their career, but they have to impress the fans by not cherry picking their opponents, instead, they'll choose a fighter that are equal to their skills and that they'll be challenge.

Too early to say who has a clear legacy, this fighters are still very young, and as per argument there could be fans that at the end of the day will used this fight to push Tank as the best compare to Ryan. Similar to fans that boasted Floyd's 50-0 against Manny Pacquaio for all the greatness after their retirement. But as we can see though, Manny's run was incredible, 8 division and many still considers the greatest and the best and Floyd is just second to him. So let's see how Ryan career will go after that big upset win against Haney. He could be a champion like Manny an be like by fans and even if he has lost already perhaps down in the future, if he chooses good fight, maybe, just maybe he will be up there with some of the great fighters.

@Kemarit. You are correct. There is no argument against the signing of the contract with the rehydration clause is Ryan's fault. My argument is against the fans who do not consider the rehydration clause as the cause of King Ry's loss. Similar to what you have said, Tank will not fight this version of King Ry because he does not want to fight King Ry where he is strongest. However, King Ry agreed to fight Tank in his strongest and with a rehydration clause hehehehehe. I reckon it is very clear who will create a bigger legacy. This will not be Tank.

What mistakes though, he should knew in the beginning that he will be at a disadvantage. They can simply walk away from the contract, but eventually they did. And it's good that there are no NDA in this clause, LOL, because if there are, we will not know that there are such thing as rehydration clause in that fight. And even if Tank Davis win, it diminishes some of that aura of his big win because of this clause.


No way Tank Davis will fight this version of Ryan, he will be too big for Davis, and I doubt that they are willing to go up at 140 lbs to fight King Ry. They can't have another negotiations with rehydration clause, Ryan will not agree to that.

^^ Yes, he had us with his antics and his posts but deep inside, his circles is knows that he is just playing the crowd and he wanted us to see that he is mentally unstable so that everyone will doubt him including Devin Haney. And for sure, not only is Ryan who bet on him, perhaps his closest friends has put a lot of money on the line for him and guess what it did paid off with that huge odds stack against him and yes we wouldn't be surprised to see him not partying with all of his friends because they have wont a lot of money. For his next fight, it should be still money for him, not sure if Pitbull Cruz can give him that audience as he will be the one to carry the promotion again and bring fight fans on the sit and watch it live.

And it's a good decision by Ryan and his camp not to go for a immediate rematch, test the waters at 140 lbs and then when he felt confident he goes after the champion at Devin Haney. And then he doesn't want to drain himself, paid $1.5 million fees to the Haney, and what's interesting is,

He bet on himself at $2 million, huge underdog at 6x-7x and so he he was able to recoup that money he paid to the Haney's.

So as we have said, we have been played by Ryan and that's you can see how happy he is even after weeks of fight and partying because of the huge money he make.

That's Tank fans, you can't argue that they will cheer on him, and no matter how you explain to them what Tank did in terms of contract, they will just keep a blind eye and wouldn't take any of that argument.


I don't think Tank is going to rematch either of the two. He will be protected until someone take that 0 from him. He didn't fair well with Pitbull although is excuse is that he had injured his hands and both of this 2 are campaigning at 140 lbs and I don't see Tank moving up to that division anytime soon.

Yes, in terms of money matters Ryan sees that opportunities and he did not let it pass though the outcome is not for him but he got his paycheck and he enjoy that millions, though it bring him down in terms of carrier but he manage to bring his name up again after winning his previous fight, you just need to move along and for sure most of them are all aiming for a good paycheck and willing to take that big risk for the sake of money.

Just need to keep moving forward and try more open opportunities, he got his name up and for sure he will convert more money while being in the hots spot.