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Quote from: criptoevangelista on Today at 07:56:07 AM

If I'm not mistaken, fan tokens already exist. I've seen some from Vasco, Flamengo, Corinthians and Santos... This one from Santos is even listed on Binance. But I have no idea how the clubs manage to make money from it.

I also remember that when Messi was hired by PSG, he received part of the payment in club tokens. It seems to be a highly profitable market for the clubs.

Here is the link to the article with Messi:

https://www.infomoney.com.br/negocios/messi-recebe-parte-do-pagamento-da-contratacao-pelo-psg-em-fan-tokens-conheca-a-cripto/

One way i can imagine clubs profiting from their own tokens is if they are the largest holders of coins and dump them on their users whenever they reach a price spike. But i don't think it's a good idea for them to do that, as it would lose credibility.

A fairer and healthier way for clubs to make money is if they offer exclusive benefits to those who have the token, such as discounts on tickets to their matches and access to content or discounts on their products.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on December 20, 2024, 05:54:07 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 20, 2024, 12:28:34 PM

now imagine if there was something like a meme coin for teams popularity, heavily attached to their wins, kind like sports betting but more fluid, not something game by game, a bit more like price over time
this could be something interesting to watch or create.

This is definitely a cool idea!

Fans could trade and invest, creating a gamified football market. It would help clubs generate more revenue and offer exclusive benefits, combining passion, economy and blockchain technology.

Some brazilian clubs already have fan tokens, but imagine if they were used in a smarter way?

If I'm not mistaken, fan tokens already exist. I've seen some from Vasco, Flamengo, Corinthians and Santos... This one from Santos is even listed on Binance. But I have no idea how the clubs manage to make money from it.

I also remember that when Messi was hired by PSG, he received part of the payment in club tokens. It seems to be a highly profitable market for the clubs.

Here is the link to the article with Messi:

https://www.infomoney.com.br/negocios/messi-recebe-parte-do-pagamento-da-contratacao-pelo-psg-em-fan-tokens-conheca-a-cripto/

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 20, 2024, 12:28:34 PM

now imagine if there was something like a meme coin for teams popularity, heavily attached to their wins, kind like sports betting but more fluid, not something game by game, a bit more like price over time
this could be something interesting to watch or create.

This is definitely a cool idea!

Fans could trade and invest, creating a gamified football market. It would help clubs generate more revenue and offer exclusive benefits, combining passion, economy and blockchain technology.

Some brazilian clubs already have fan tokens, but imagine if they were used in a smarter way?

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on December 19, 2024, 06:47:33 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 19, 2024, 04:04:59 PM

I risk saying that fans don't usually care about numbers at all, they care about vibes, even more than about winning or losing, but of course vibes are better when there are several wins in a row.
the herd mentality is strong, at the end of the day why some people choose some teams instead of others?
probably to feel like the belong to something bigger than themselves

Corinthians seems to be a team that only improves when it is at its worst, as if it were a V-shaped recovery, seeing the threat of being relegated, then they improve, spending a lot of money to sign foreign players.

As for Corinthians fans, they don't care if the team is in a good or bad phase, they will always cheer for the excitement.

now imagine if there was something like a meme coin for teams popularity, heavily attached to their wins, kind like sports betting but more fluid, not something game by game, a bit more like price over time
this could be something interesting to watch or create.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 20, 2024, 07:13:06 AM

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Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

A really amazing winning streak, but if look at the results for this season it is almost the same as last season because last season they only got 12 win and now they have 15 win, this is only 3 win apart and for the points they are only 6 points apart.
We see later whether they can get success in the Campeonato Paulista or not but Corinthians is the most successful team in this competition, for the Brazil Serie-A next season I think Corinthians also still can't be team that is able to fight for the title.

In a broader sense, they really haven't evolved much, from what I understand. But just because they haven't been relegated, I believe that the coaching staff and fans don't care much about these numbers. The important thing is that they're doing well and ready for the next one.

The winning streak and remaining in the Brazilian Championship's Serie A will only make the team continue as it is and do nothing to solve its financial problems. This bomb will probably explode at some point and what happened with Cruzeiro will happen. Sometimes I think it would be healthier for the club to be relegated and be forced to solve its financial problems before moving forward... continuing in crisis as it is, spending money on signings (without money) will only make the problem worse in the future.

That's a great way to think. Once they were relegated, shame would take over, now they are in Serie A and nothing has really changed. Next year it should be the same thing, Memphis must be waiting for a better offer to leave and a good part of the team will break if he leaves.

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Quote from: Pumared on December 19, 2024, 08:38:40 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on December 18, 2024, 08:17:34 PM

Quote from: Pumared on December 17, 2024, 08:26:26 PM

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

A really amazing winning streak, but if look at the results for this season it is almost the same as last season because last season they only got 12 win and now they have 15 win, this is only 3 win apart and for the points they are only 6 points apart.
We see later whether they can get success in the Campeonato Paulista or not but Corinthians is the most successful team in this competition, for the Brazil Serie-A next season I think Corinthians also still can't be team that is able to fight for the title.

In a broader sense, they really haven't evolved much, from what I understand. But just because they haven't been relegated, I believe that the coaching staff and fans don't care much about these numbers. The important thing is that they're doing well and ready for the next one.

The winning streak and remaining in the Brazilian Championship's Serie A will only make the team continue as it is and do nothing to solve its financial problems. This bomb will probably explode at some point and what happened with Cruzeiro will happen. Sometimes I think it would be healthier for the club to be relegated and be forced to solve its financial problems before moving forward... continuing in crisis as it is, spending money on signings (without money) will only make the problem worse in the future.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 19, 2024, 04:04:59 PM

I risk saying that fans don't usually care about numbers at all, they care about vibes, even more than about winning or losing, but of course vibes are better when there are several wins in a row.
the herd mentality is strong, at the end of the day why some people choose some teams instead of others?
probably to feel like the belong to something bigger than themselves

Corinthians seems to be a team that only improves when it is at its worst, as if it were a V-shaped recovery, seeing the threat of being relegated, then they improve, spending a lot of money to sign foreign players.

As for Corinthians fans, they don't care if the team is in a good or bad phase, they will always cheer for the excitement.

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Quote from: Pumared on December 19, 2024, 08:38:40 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on December 18, 2024, 08:17:34 PM

Quote from: Pumared on December 17, 2024, 08:26:26 PM

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

A really amazing winning streak, but if look at the results for this season it is almost the same as last season because last season they only got 12 win and now they have 15 win, this is only 3 win apart and for the points they are only 6 points apart.
We see later whether they can get success in the Campeonato Paulista or not but Corinthians is the most successful team in this competition, for the Brazil Serie-A next season I think Corinthians also still can't be team that is able to fight for the title.

In a broader sense, they really haven't evolved much, from what I understand. But just because they haven't been relegated, I believe that the coaching staff and fans don't care much about these numbers. The important thing is that they're doing well and ready for the next one.

I risk saying that fans don't usually care about numbers at all, they care about vibes, even more than about winning or losing, but of course vibes are better when there are several wins in a row.
the herd mentality is strong, at the end of the day why some people choose some teams instead of others?
probably to feel like the belong to something bigger than themselves

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 18, 2024, 08:17:34 PM

Quote from: Pumared on December 17, 2024, 08:26:26 PM

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

A really amazing winning streak, but if look at the results for this season it is almost the same as last season because last season they only got 12 win and now they have 15 win, this is only 3 win apart and for the points they are only 6 points apart.
We see later whether they can get success in the Campeonato Paulista or not but Corinthians is the most successful team in this competition, for the Brazil Serie-A next season I think Corinthians also still can't be team that is able to fight for the title.

In a broader sense, they really haven't evolved much, from what I understand. But just because they haven't been relegated, I believe that the coaching staff and fans don't care much about these numbers. The important thing is that they're doing well and ready for the next one.

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Quote from: Pumared on December 17, 2024, 08:26:26 PM

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

A really amazing winning streak, but if look at the results for this season it is almost the same as last season because last season they only got 12 win and now they have 15 win, this is only 3 win apart and for the points they are only 6 points apart.
We see later whether they can get success in the Campeonato Paulista or not but Corinthians is the most successful team in this competition, for the Brazil Serie-A next season I think Corinthians also still can't be team that is able to fight for the title.

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Well, in the next Brazilian championship we'll bet something again heheh, Corinthians really surprised me, I think it surprised all of us to tell the truth.

Pogba at Corinthians would be interesting, maybe Memphis Depay has already told other players what the experience of playing in Brazil is like and this could be very good for our championship

I was wrong twice in this championship
1 - I thought Corinthians would be relegated
2 - I thought Depay wouldn't fit in as well at Corinthians as he did
He seemed to be just a marketing signing to calm the team's spirits when they were in the relegation zone.

But in both cases I was positively surprised
Corinthians have a good chance of getting off to a better start next year and having a good year, as they'll be playing in the Libertadores and a player like Depay can make a difference, both because of his experience and the free-kick goals he's been scoring. This kind of player can solve a difficult match

I'd like to see Pogba play here too, but not for Flamengo but for Corinthians hehehe

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

Yes, we could expect 2 or 3 wins in a row, but more than 7 it's quite uncommon
luck and fortune are curious goddesses (can I say this? or it's not even english?), always playing with our desires, hopes and expectations

anyone here bet on that outcome?

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 16, 2024, 07:04:16 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 16, 2024, 05:46:16 AM

payment received! haha, thanks Wink

Well, in the next Brazilian championship we'll bet something again heheh, Corinthians really surprised me, I think it surprised all of us to tell the truth.

Pogba at Corinthians would be interesting, maybe Memphis Depay has already told other players what the experience of playing in Brazil is like and this could be very good for our championship

I was wrong twice in this championship
1 - I thought Corinthians would be relegated
2 - I thought Depay wouldn't fit in as well at Corinthians as he did
He seemed to be just a marketing signing to calm the team's spirits when they were in the relegation zone.

But in both cases I was positively surprised
Corinthians have a good chance of getting off to a better start next year and having a good year, as they'll be playing in the Libertadores and a player like Depay can make a difference, both because of his experience and the free-kick goals he's been scoring. This kind of player can solve a difficult match

I'd like to see Pogba play here too, but not for Flamengo but for Corinthians hehehe

I'm very worried about Flamengo. We'll have a new president, and every management transition always raises the question: will it work out?

Well, it's already started with a little friction. The new president wants to hire Roger Guedes, but coach Filipe Luis didn't give his approval for the hiring. I'm always afraid that the president will make populist decisions and the club will pay for mismanagement... it's complicated.

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 16, 2024, 07:04:16 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 16, 2024, 05:46:16 AM

payment received! haha, thanks Wink

Well, in the next Brazilian championship we'll bet something again heheh, Corinthians really surprised me, I think it surprised all of us to tell the truth.

Pogba at Corinthians would be interesting, maybe Memphis Depay has already told other players what the experience of playing in Brazil is like and this could be very good for our championship

I was wrong twice in this championship
1 - I thought Corinthians would be relegated
2 - I thought Depay wouldn't fit in as well at Corinthians as he did
He seemed to be just a marketing signing to calm the team's spirits when they were in the relegation zone.

But in both cases I was positively surprised
Corinthians have a good chance of getting off to a better start next year and having a good year, as they'll be playing in the Libertadores and a player like Depay can make a difference, both because of his experience and the free-kick goals he's been scoring. This kind of player can solve a difficult match

I'd like to see Pogba play here too, but not for Flamengo but for Corinthians hehehe

Corinthians really surprised a lot in this final stretch of the championship. They spent a lot on signings, but it was all worth it. And I really believe that if there were more matches they would win and increase their consecutive victories.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 16, 2024, 05:46:16 AM

payment received! haha, thanks Wink

Well, in the next Brazilian championship we'll bet something again heheh, Corinthians really surprised me, I think it surprised all of us to tell the truth.

Pogba at Corinthians would be interesting, maybe Memphis Depay has already told other players what the experience of playing in Brazil is like and this could be very good for our championship

I was wrong twice in this championship
1 - I thought Corinthians would be relegated
2 - I thought Depay wouldn't fit in as well at Corinthians as he did
He seemed to be just a marketing signing to calm the team's spirits when they were in the relegation zone.

But in both cases I was positively surprised
Corinthians have a good chance of getting off to a better start next year and having a good year, as they'll be playing in the Libertadores and a player like Depay can make a difference, both because of his experience and the free-kick goals he's been scoring. This kind of player can solve a difficult match

I'd like to see Pogba play here too, but not for Flamengo but for Corinthians hehehe

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Quote from: rdluffy on December 15, 2024, 08:26:13 PM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 04, 2024, 05:38:39 AM

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It could be on Polygon, where the rates are low. It could even be on the POL token (If you can, of course)... Since we are in an altcoin season, this coke could very well turn into a pizza in a few weeks lol

Address: 0x075AA94515e9a96608908150Bc9860b7A727CeCc
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Paid my friend: tx id 0xec503ebfe4a7f845c258944b3c95d6e2000c4d506fca4983f476509b045d6470
Sorry for the delay, it's USDT on POL ok
Hehehe, it only costs 5 USD to Corinthians start to win a great sequence of matches, next time I'll contact Corinthians and I'll bet you will again Cheesy

Looks like Corinthians can hire Pogba to play with Depay, maybe, just maybe Corinthians can fight for the title in 2025

payment received! haha, thanks Wink

Well, in the next Brazilian championship we'll bet something again heheh, Corinthians really surprised me, I think it surprised all of us to tell the truth.

Pogba at Corinthians would be interesting, maybe Memphis Depay has already told other players what the experience of playing in Brazil is like and this could be very good for our championship

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on December 04, 2024, 05:38:39 AM

...
It could be on Polygon, where the rates are low. It could even be on the POL token (If you can, of course)... Since we are in an altcoin season, this coke could very well turn into a pizza in a few weeks lol

Address: 0x075AA94515e9a96608908150Bc9860b7A727CeCc
...

Paid my friend: tx id 0xec503ebfe4a7f845c258944b3c95d6e2000c4d506fca4983f476509b045d6470
Sorry for the delay, it's USDT on POL ok
Hehehe, it only costs 5 USD to Corinthians start to win a great sequence of matches, next time I'll contact Corinthians and I'll bet you will again Cheesy

Looks like Corinthians can hire Pogba to play with Depay, maybe, just maybe Corinthians can fight for the title in 2025

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I don't know if we'll have a topic about the Club World Cup, I couldn't find anything about it, but what was Botafogo's strategy for such an important game? A mixed team that had no chemistry at all? I didn't understand anything about that.

We have, I created the thread hehe: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fifa-intercontinental-cup-2024-5522436
Unfortunately Botafogo is already in Brazil at vacation Cheesy

Exactly, we all are surprised about the mixed team instead of going 100%, but looks like they underestimated Pachuca, and lost 3 x 0 Shocked

CBF made the list of top players in campeonato brasileiro, do you guys agree?

Goalkeeper - John (Botafogo)
Right-back - Wesley (Flamengo)
Defenders - Alexander Barbosa (Botafogo) and Bastos (Botafogo)
Left-back - Bernabei (Internacional)
Midfielders - Gerson (Flamengo) and Marlon Freitas (Botafogo)
Midfielders - Rodrigo Garro (Corinthians) and Alan Patrick (Internacional)
Strikers - Luiz Henrique (Botafogo) and Estevão (Palmeiras)
Coach - Artur Jorge (Botafogo)
Revelation player - Estevão (Palmeiras)

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I agree, at least there weren't any major absurdities like teams from the bottom of the table appearing. There was only one from Corinthians, but it's fair that it's there. In general, I agree! But I don't think any of them will leave Brazil any time soon. Our stars are only good for us.

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Quote from: Pumared on December 12, 2024, 02:27:52 PM

I don't know if we'll have a topic about the Club World Cup, I couldn't find anything about it, but what was Botafogo's strategy for such an important game? A mixed team that had no chemistry at all? I didn't understand anything about that.

We have, I created the thread hehe: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fifa-intercontinental-cup-2024-5522436
Unfortunately Botafogo is already in Brazil at vacation Cheesy

Exactly, we all are surprised about the mixed team instead of going 100%, but looks like they underestimated Pachuca, and lost 3 x 0 Shocked

CBF made the list of top players in campeonato brasileiro, do you guys agree?

Goalkeeper - John (Botafogo)
Right-back - Wesley (Flamengo)
Defenders - Alexander Barbosa (Botafogo) and Bastos (Botafogo)
Left-back - Bernabei (Internacional)
Midfielders - Gerson (Flamengo) and Marlon Freitas (Botafogo)
Midfielders - Rodrigo Garro (Corinthians) and Alan Patrick (Internacional)
Strikers - Luiz Henrique (Botafogo) and Estevão (Palmeiras)
Coach - Artur Jorge (Botafogo)
Revelation player - Estevão (Palmeiras)

Source

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Quote from: Pumared on December 13, 2024, 06:23:58 AM

Quote from: uneng on December 12, 2024, 04:07:20 PM

Quote from: Pumared on December 12, 2024, 02:27:52 PM

I don't know if we'll have a topic about the Club World Cup, I couldn't find anything about it, but what was Botafogo's strategy for such an important game? A mixed team that had no chemistry at all? I didn't understand anything about that.

That strategy was too bad. It would be better if they had entered with the main team, despite the players being exhausted already due to the trip and the excessive number of games in a very short time period.

Then, during the game, main players could be replaced as the coach felt necessary.

In my opinion, Botafogo felt once again for the sweet words of the media, which claimed Botafogo was the favorite and Pachuca was a weak ruined club. They lost touch with reality by underestimating the adversary.

An important decisive game can never be neglected. The team has always to use the best they have under their disposal.

Anyway, that was the roof for Botafogo in the year of 2024. It's time to celebrate the titles from Libertadores and Brasileirão and to get satisfied with that. Probably the best year in the history of the club.

In my opinion, Pachuca was underestimated by Botafogo. Regardless of how the players were, it should have been the starting team playing from the beginning and making substitutions. That way they would have created an early advantage.

I even commented on the other topic about this, I imagine that the Botafogo team wanted to go with the reserve team so that the main team could go with full force against Real Madrid, that is, they imagined that the match was already won. Because there is no other alternative to imagine other than this... they traveled for 16 hours to the other side of the planet to play with the reserve team? They already imagined that the match was won and that they would face Real Madrid. They lost to their own ego.

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Quote from: uneng on December 12, 2024, 04:07:20 PM

Quote from: Pumared on December 12, 2024, 02:27:52 PM

I don't know if we'll have a topic about the Club World Cup, I couldn't find anything about it, but what was Botafogo's strategy for such an important game? A mixed team that had no chemistry at all? I didn't understand anything about that.

That strategy was too bad. It would be better if they had entered with the main team, despite the players being exhausted already due to the trip and the excessive number of games in a very short time period.

Then, during the game, main players could be replaced as the coach felt necessary.

In my opinion, Botafogo felt once again for the sweet words of the media, which claimed Botafogo was the favorite and Pachuca was a weak ruined club. They lost touch with reality by underestimating the adversary.

An important decisive game can never be neglected. The team has always to use the best they have under their disposal.

Anyway, that was the roof for Botafogo in the year of 2024. It's time to celebrate the titles from Libertadores and Brasileirão and to get satisfied with that. Probably the best year in the history of the club.

In my opinion, Pachuca was underestimated by Botafogo. Regardless of how the players were, it should have been the starting team playing from the beginning and making substitutions. That way they would have created an early advantage.

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