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Since you bet a while ago, with this rise in BTC, how are you going to arrange it? Payment in LTC? Haha

I haven't seen the current state of the BTC network, but it was a bit congested these days.

What about Marcelo's behavior from Fluminense when arguing with coach Mano Menezes? Do you think one of them made a mistake or both of them made a mistake?

There's a video going around of Marcelo ignoring a young fan who called him out countless times, I didn't expect such behavior from a professional player like him (video). There are more than one similar cases.

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Corinthians will not be relegated...

And I'll win the bet we made Cool

I'm joking, I made the bet on Corinthians to be relegated hahaha, I didn't forget, 5 USD is at stake between us Cheesy

A classic or derby is always unpredictable, probably the worse kind of game to bet, and a result like that for Corinthians can be enough to give a piece of mind to the team and continue to win another games
Let's see how both teams will react, but with the victory of Botafogo yesterday, the difference is now 6 points

Those 5 USD are enough to buy a good chocolate to sweeten the sad life of a Flamengo fan who, it seems, will be left in the "smell" again this year.

I never believed that Corinthians would be relegated, I hope I'm right about that because I don't want to lose our bet lol

Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 06, 2024, 12:52:30 PM

what else do you think are the key factors for a team to suceed?
do you think popularity is something to take into account or it doesn't matter so much?

it's always nice to see conviction paying off.

I think they involve many variables, but the main factor is the club having an objective, putting this objective into practice with a good leader who is capable of extracting the best from the players and the entire coaching staff. Dealing with people is not easy at all, imagine a squad of 30 athletes (which is the average of a professional football squad), to reach the peak of consistency and be champion, the entire group of people needs to be extremely competent.

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Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

This year's Brazilian championship is increasingly surprising, I doubt that at the beginning of the championship anyone would have imagined that Fortaleza or Botafogo would get so far and finish as one of the best teams in Brazil, or even at the bottom of the table, I doubt that anyone would have imagined Fluminense or Corinthians there...

I agree about Fortaleza. They have always been mid/low table teams. I myself did not believe it, but today I bet almost blindly on them. They have really become better under their coach and this improvement has been going on for years.

Surprises me most about Fortaleza is that in 2017 the club was in the third division of the Brazilian championship, that is, practically at rock bottom and the club's rise is quite an impressive feat... would it be good management? I have no doubt that in a few years the club will emerge as one of the Brazilian football powers, this is very good for football in the northeast region, which has always been a supporting actor on the national scene.

It's a mix of good financial and technical management. Vojvoda was a turning point for the club, along with president Marcelo Paz. Together, the two simply became part of the club's history. Vojvoda has had million-dollar offers but has remained at the club, and that says a lot about his management and what he wants.

what else do you think are the key factors for a team to suceed?
do you think popularity is something to take into account or it doesn't matter so much?

it's always nice to see conviction paying off.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on November 06, 2024, 05:54:08 AM

Corinthians will not be relegated...

And I'll win the bet we made Cool

I'm joking, I made the bet on Corinthians to be relegated hahaha, I didn't forget, 5 USD is at stake between us Cheesy

A classic or derby is always unpredictable, probably the worse kind of game to bet, and a result like that for Corinthians can be enough to give a piece of mind to the team and continue to win another games
Let's see how both teams will react, but with the victory of Botafogo yesterday, the difference is now 6 points

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Quote from: Slow death on November 06, 2024, 04:17:42 AM

The results of yesterday's games had some very interesting results:

Bahia 0 - 3 Sao Paulo

In the last few games Bahia has not been doing well, they had gone 3 games without winning when they were going to play Sao Paulo and adding the fact that they would be playing at home, I expected them to at least get a draw or at least score a goal, because in the last 5 games before playing Sao Paulo they only failed to score a goal in the game against Flamengo. But Sao Paulo, which in the last 4 games has been having good results, showed Bahia that they are much better by scoring 3 goals and not conceding a single goal.

Botafogo 3 - 0 Vasco da Gama

It was a very easy victory that Botafogo managed to get and with this victory Botafogo has a 6 point advantage compared to the team in second place. I think we are seeing the same scenario as last season, now we have to see if when there are 4 rounds left for the league to end Botafogo will not make a mistake and at the end of the league they will not achieve anything like last season

I ended up betting only on the Botafogo and Internacional games. In the São Paulo game, I really expected Bahia to play better and, because I didn't know what to expect, I ended up not betting on the game. Regarding Botafogo, I hope they learned something. But at this moment, I believe they are being held accountable by everyone around them.

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Ohhhhh, what a match that was between Corinthians and Palmeiras, with Palmeiras not only losing but also failing to score a goal? Angry

Palmeiras is still in 2nd place in the table, but Botafogo has increased its lead, giving it more breathing room in the final stretch of the championship.

Now, if Palmeiras wants to be champion again, it must not lose any more matches, since there are only 5 rounds left. At some point, Botafogo must make a mistake, since it has been a long time since it lost a match and we know that no team can just win and win, Palmeiras must at least win one match when Botafogo draws or loses.

Corinthians lose the Copa do Brasil, lose the Sudamericana, but manage to beat Palmeiras Cheesy

Unexplainable things...

I bet a lot of people lost their bets yesterday because I thought Palmeiras were going to win the game as Corinthians had just been disqualified from the Sudamericana and were likely play the match disappointed
I was quite surprised

The interest thing is Palmeiras probably lost the championship to Botafogo in this game Cheesy

Corinthians will not be relegated. There are hidden forces coming from the Brazilian government through its fan "Presidente Nove" and he will never let Corinthians fall. And I'll say more: next year they will have some benefits coming from the judiciary, which won't even have to pay the club's million-dollar debt. The great leader, president mollusk, would never let his beloved club go through difficulties.

Joking aside, there are things I will never be able to understand. I also never imagined that Palmeiras could lose, but that's how it is, in a classic anything can happen.

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The results of yesterday's games had some very interesting results:

Bahia 0 - 3 Sao Paulo

In the last few games Bahia has not been doing well, they had gone 3 games without winning when they were going to play Sao Paulo and adding the fact that they would be playing at home, I expected them to at least get a draw or at least score a goal, because in the last 5 games before playing Sao Paulo they only failed to score a goal in the game against Flamengo. But Sao Paulo, which in the last 4 games has been having good results, showed Bahia that they are much better by scoring 3 goals and not conceding a single goal.

Botafogo 3 - 0 Vasco da Gama

It was a very easy victory that Botafogo managed to get and with this victory Botafogo has a 6 point advantage compared to the team in second place. I think we are seeing the same scenario as last season, now we have to see if when there are 4 rounds left for the league to end Botafogo will not make a mistake and at the end of the league they will not achieve anything like last season

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 05, 2024, 01:56:56 PM

Ohhhhh, what a match that was between Corinthians and Palmeiras, with Palmeiras not only losing but also failing to score a goal? Angry

Palmeiras is still in 2nd place in the table, but Botafogo has increased its lead, giving it more breathing room in the final stretch of the championship.

Now, if Palmeiras wants to be champion again, it must not lose any more matches, since there are only 5 rounds left. At some point, Botafogo must make a mistake, since it has been a long time since it lost a match and we know that no team can just win and win, Palmeiras must at least win one match when Botafogo draws or loses.

Corinthians lose the Copa do Brasil, lose the Sudamericana, but manage to beat Palmeiras Cheesy

Unexplainable things...

I bet a lot of people lost their bets yesterday because I thought Palmeiras were going to win the game as Corinthians had just been disqualified from the Sudamericana and were likely play the match disappointed
I was quite surprised

The interest thing is Palmeiras probably lost the championship to Botafogo in this game Cheesy

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Ohhhhh, what a match that was between Corinthians and Palmeiras, with Palmeiras not only losing but also failing to score a goal? Angry

Palmeiras is still in 2nd place in the table, but Botafogo has increased its lead, giving it more breathing room in the final stretch of the championship.

Now, if Palmeiras wants to be champion again, it must not lose any more matches, since there are only 5 rounds left. At some point, Botafogo must make a mistake, since it has been a long time since it lost a match and we know that no team can just win and win, Palmeiras must at least win one match when Botafogo draws or loses.

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Another scandal involving players and sports betting, this time it was Bruno Henrique, Flamengo's striker, the police went after him at the club's training center and from what we could find out he was involved in match-fixing and betting, all thanks to a yellow card in the game against Santos for the 2023 Brazilian championship... and several people linked to him bet on this yellow card... all this is regrettable

here is a link to the news (in Portuguese): https://oglobo.globo.com/esportes/intercolegial/noticia/2024/11/05/bruno-henrique-pode-ser-preso-e-banido-do-futebol-entenda-as-consequencias-da-investigacao-por-manipulacao-de-uma-partida.ghtml

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Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

This year's Brazilian championship is increasingly surprising, I doubt that at the beginning of the championship anyone would have imagined that Fortaleza or Botafogo would get so far and finish as one of the best teams in Brazil, or even at the bottom of the table, I doubt that anyone would have imagined Fluminense or Corinthians there...

I agree about Fortaleza. They have always been mid/low table teams. I myself did not believe it, but today I bet almost blindly on them. They have really become better under their coach and this improvement has been going on for years.

Surprises me most about Fortaleza is that in 2017 the club was in the third division of the Brazilian championship, that is, practically at rock bottom and the club's rise is quite an impressive feat... would it be good management? I have no doubt that in a few years the club will emerge as one of the Brazilian football powers, this is very good for football in the northeast region, which has always been a supporting actor on the national scene.

It's a mix of good financial and technical management. Vojvoda was a turning point for the club, along with president Marcelo Paz. Together, the two simply became part of the club's history. Vojvoda has had million-dollar offers but has remained at the club, and that says a lot about his management and what he wants.

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exactly, and again this is the thing

buying a player will be easier than buying a full team
buying a series C is easier than buying a series A player

of course this is all relative and speculative
in an ideal world no player would sell yourself for making faults but we know that this is far from an ideal world.

Match fixing sometimes take a long time to be discovered because only one or two players are involved on the scheme. At least, that is what investigations have pointed so far. In previous year's Botafogo, John Textor concluded there was 1 to 3 players who could be potentially manipulating results, and they are no longer on the team.

I still have some suspicions of players who decrease performance on purpose, since they miss obvious plays, goals or commit dumb faults on adversaries, but as said earlier, it's really hard to prove this.

that's crazy
and even crazier that some are risking their paychecks (which are not small most of the time) for more money
I wish we had a way to create a more ethical society. it's crazy how low the ethical level is.

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Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

This year's Brazilian championship is increasingly surprising, I doubt that at the beginning of the championship anyone would have imagined that Fortaleza or Botafogo would get so far and finish as one of the best teams in Brazil, or even at the bottom of the table, I doubt that anyone would have imagined Fluminense or Corinthians there...

I agree about Fortaleza. They have always been mid/low table teams. I myself did not believe it, but today I bet almost blindly on them. They have really become better under their coach and this improvement has been going on for years.

Surprises me most about Fortaleza is that in 2017 the club was in the third division of the Brazilian championship, that is, practically at rock bottom and the club's rise is quite an impressive feat... would it be good management? I have no doubt that in a few years the club will emerge as one of the Brazilian football powers, this is very good for football in the northeast region, which has always been a supporting actor on the national scene.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 03, 2024, 02:08:17 PM

Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

Fortaleza football team won the match against Juventude football team easily by 3-0 . That was any win by Fortaleza because they did hard work in low level matches and now they are full prepared to play against any big team of World. Juventude team shots were more in number and these were 17 and I will explain more about both teams. The shots of that team were 6 which were on target and targeted shots of opponent team were only 4 . But when we will see the result of that match we will favor Fortaleza team because they are winner of that match because they did 3 goals in this match and opponent team could not do any goal in this match.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 03, 2024, 02:08:17 PM

Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

This year's Brazilian championship is increasingly surprising, I doubt that at the beginning of the championship anyone would have imagined that Fortaleza or Botafogo would get so far and finish as one of the best teams in Brazil, or even at the bottom of the table, I doubt that anyone would have imagined Fluminense or Corinthians there...

I agree about Fortaleza. They have always been mid/low table teams. I myself did not believe it, but today I bet almost blindly on them. They have really become better under their coach and this improvement has been going on for years.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 03, 2024, 02:08:17 PM

Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

This year's Brazilian championship is increasingly surprising, I doubt that at the beginning of the championship anyone would have imagined that Fortaleza or Botafogo would get so far and finish as one of the best teams in Brazil, or even at the bottom of the table, I doubt that anyone would have imagined Fluminense or Corinthians there...

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But the result gives 3 point difference and I have seen all the schedules that Botafogo has, showing that only Palmeiras is the only strongest team for the remaining matches they have, if Palmeiras can finish all the remaining matches with win then they can match Botafogo in terms of points.
Let see who between the two will succeed in winning the title, at least there is still chance for Palmeiras to take that position and of course this is really competitive competition this season between Botafogo and Palmeiras, if Botafogo can win the title then it will be big surprise.

It's hard to trust these two teams given their recent past. When they want to lose, they do it hard. And I have no doubt that this will happen to them in the final stretch of the championship. I believe more in Botafogo winning than in Palmeiras. Botafogo must have learned from past mistakes, but I don't think Palmeiras has yet.

But it would be better to forget about their past because now everything is different, Botafogo and Palmeiras will both show really fierce competition even though some people don't really believe in Palmeiras, I just want to see how Palmeiras efforts can fight for the top position and break Botafogo struggle this season.
Botafogo and Palmeiras also have meeting in the remaining match schedule, if both of them finish it well and in their meeting Palmeiras can win it can make them superior even though the points will be the same, besides Palmeiras also has an advantage in goal difference.

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Fortaleza surprised me in yesterday's game. Although I had no luck betting on the team, this time it worked out because their opponent was Juventude, a team that is fighting against relegation. Despite Fortaleza being the visiting team, when I saw the result almost at the end, it was no different. It was a sure bet and practically guaranteed! Juventude created opportunities, but without any results, even though they had more possession of the ball. With this, Fortaleza is back in the spotlight in the Brasileirão, competing for the title with Botafogo and Palmeiras. If these two are careless, they could have problems with Fortaleza.

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What is your opinion about the incident with former Real Madrid player Marcelo? He managed to have his contract terminated due to lack of respect for the coach and for not respecting the hierarchy within the club... Do you think it is correct?

For those who don't know (I think it's hard to believe, since it became worldwide news) former player Marcelo and coach Mano Menezes argued on the sidelines during Fluminense's last game:

link to the news (in Portuguese): https://ge.globo.com/futebol/times/fluminense/noticia/2024/11/02/fluminense-anuncia-rescisao-com-marcelo.ghtml

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 01, 2024, 04:26:22 PM

It really doesn't make sense for a player who is relatively good at a club to let his performance drop in order to win betting deals, thus putting money above talent and effort/performance, given that football, being a very popular sport and full of statistics, there will always be a loophole that these players can commit and be caught in these schemes.

Maybe they are motivated by promises of huge rewards superior to the money they would make in a monthly or yearly basis through wages paid by the club. Maybe they see how much the main stars of the industry make through marketing propagandas and conclude they are never going to have chances to reach that profitability level, so they get desperate and join such shady schemes. Or they might not enjoy playing and putting effort into the sport anymore, so they are concerned only about easy profit.

Money is put above everything else these days. People don't love what they do anymore, rather they just do it because they need or desire money. For us who are outside this industry, it looks really unbelievable, though.

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