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Quote from: alegotardo on November 21, 2024, 06:33:25 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on November 21, 2024, 05:29:37 PM

What you think guys?

Well, I also don't understand what happened in that last game... Botafogo couldn't take advantage of having an extra player on the field for more than 45 minutes and simply tied against Atlético-MG in a match without a single goal... thank goodness (if we can say that) that the stadium was closed, otherwise I could imagine the disappointment of its fans who would have paid a lot for a ticket to see "nothing" happen.

In fact, the "Glorioso" is in trouble because it saw Palmeiras beat Bahia and reduce its lead at the top of the table.

To make matters worse... Luiz Henrique will also be out of Botafogo's game against Vitória because of the general confusion between Botafogo players and security guards with the security team at Arena Independência after the final whistle of the game.

This reminds me of a time when I went to Palestra Itália Stadium to watch Palmeiras X Sport for the 2008 Copa do Brasil, I traveled to São Paulo (I lived in São José dos Campos at the time) and paid a lot for the ticket and the game ended 0X0, disappointment.

Quote from: rdluffy on November 21, 2024, 09:02:25 AM

The reason Corinthians woke up and started winning games and climbing up the rank is that I bet with @criptoevangelista that Corinthians would be relegated this year, and then it skyrocketed Grin

But it looks like Memphis have given the team a boost and Yuri Alberto is finally scoring more goals
But I remain firm in my criticism, Corinthians were very lucky to reach two semi-finals that they could have used much better and been in some final, the Copa do Brasil or the Sudamericana.

Now the fight for Corinthians is to try and get as many points as possible to finish seventh and earn a place in the pre-Libertadores, since Flamengo is already classified because of Copa do Brasil

Do you think the team can do it?

This is what I call "lucky", I always believed that one way or another Corinthians would avoid relegation, whether on the field or with factors off the field, if you know what I mean lol. Jokes aside, the team really got a boost with the signing of Memphis, but now Corinthians has another problem: Impeatchmeant, anyway, endless problems

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Quote from: rdluffy on November 21, 2024, 05:29:37 PM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 21, 2024, 03:30:54 PM

There is little time left, as I've said before, if Botafogo slips up, the title will go to Palmeiras, they shouldn't feel pressured like they did last year or else the same thing will happen again and i feel that the same will happen.

This championship is being the most exciting of all.

And Palmeiras' next opponents are: Atlético GO, Botafogo itself, Cruzeiro.

In other words, some teams are weaker than others mentioned, such as Atlético GO, the match against Botafogo will be decisive to see how much pressure Botafogo is under in relation to Palmeiras.

I can't believe Botafogo are so keen to give away the title again Tongue

It seemed easy, and now it seems so difficult

Botafogo will have very difficult days

On 23 Nov they will play against Vitória, an easy game to win
On 26 Nov they will play against Palmeiras, a direct match in the fight for the title, probably the team's most important game in the Brasileirao
30 nov they will play the Libertadores final against Atlético MG in Argentina Shocked

04 Dec returns to the Brasileirão against Inter, difficult game
08 Dec is the last game, against São Paulo

What you think guys?

In my opinion, the next two games will be decisive for both teams. But I see Palmeiras as having a better chance of becoming champion, because Botafogo doesn't inspire much confidence. They could lose in the next games. The funny thing about Botafogo is that they could even beat Palmeiras, but then lose to other weak opponents. It's a team that lacks concentration in the decisive moments. For example, in the last five games, they had three draws. It was a great opportunity to have gotten 9 points, but they only got 3 points. If they were a normal team with great determination to win the title, they would be close to celebrating the title at this moment, but they are a team that makes jokes. I wonder how Botafogo fans are holding up psychologically.

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Quote from: rdluffy on November 21, 2024, 05:29:37 PM

What you think guys?

Well, I also don't understand what happened in that last game... Botafogo couldn't take advantage of having an extra player on the field for more than 45 minutes and simply tied against Atlético-MG in a match without a single goal... thank goodness (if we can say that) that the stadium was closed, otherwise I could imagine the disappointment of its fans who would have paid a lot for a ticket to see "nothing" happen.

In fact, the "Glorioso" is in trouble because it saw Palmeiras beat Bahia and reduce its lead at the top of the table.

To make matters worse... Luiz Henrique will also be out of Botafogo's game against Vitória because of the general confusion between Botafogo players and security guards with the security team at Arena Independência after the final whistle of the game.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on November 21, 2024, 03:30:54 PM

There is little time left, as I've said before, if Botafogo slips up, the title will go to Palmeiras, they shouldn't feel pressured like they did last year or else the same thing will happen again and i feel that the same will happen.

This championship is being the most exciting of all.

And Palmeiras' next opponents are: Atlético GO, Botafogo itself, Cruzeiro.

In other words, some teams are weaker than others mentioned, such as Atlético GO, the match against Botafogo will be decisive to see how much pressure Botafogo is under in relation to Palmeiras.

I can't believe Botafogo are so keen to give away the title again Tongue

It seemed easy, and now it seems so difficult

Botafogo will have very difficult days

On 23 Nov they will play against Vitória, an easy game to win
On 26 Nov they will play against Palmeiras, a direct match in the fight for the title, probably the team's most important game in the Brasileirao
30 nov they will play the Libertadores final against Atlético MG in Argentina Shocked

04 Dec returns to the Brasileirão against Inter, difficult game
08 Dec is the last game, against São Paulo

What you think guys?

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Quote from: Pumared on November 20, 2024, 10:26:20 PM

It seems that Botafogo doesn't want to be champion again. Will they make the same mistake again? They just drew with AtléticoMG. As I said, this trophy goes to Fortaleza, but not because of their merit, but because of the opponent's stupidity.

There is little time left, as I've said before, if Botafogo slips up, the title will go to Palmeiras, they shouldn't feel pressured like they did last year or else the same thing will happen again and i feel that the same will happen.

This championship is being the most exciting of all.

And Palmeiras' next opponents are: Atlético GO, Botafogo itself, Cruzeiro.

In other words, some teams are weaker than others mentioned, such as Atlético GO, the match against Botafogo will be decisive to see how much pressure Botafogo is under in relation to Palmeiras.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 21, 2024, 11:21:41 AM

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Quote from: Pumared on November 21, 2024, 08:39:30 AM

My focus was elsewhere and I had already forgotten about Corinthians. They left very quickly, could it be that all this was the Mephis effect on Corinthians?

I remember that he had a clause that if he was relegated to the B series he could leave the team.

The reason Corinthians woke up and started winning games and climbing up the rank is that I bet with @criptoevangelista that Corinthians would be relegated this year, and then it skyrocketed Grin

But it looks like Memphis have given the team a boost and Yuri Alberto is finally scoring more goals
But I remain firm in my criticism, Corinthians were very lucky to reach two semi-finals that they could have used much better and been in some final, the Copa do Brasil or the Sudamericana.

Now the fight for Corinthians is to try and get as many points as possible to finish seventh and earn a place in the pre-Libertadores, since Flamengo is already classified because of Copa do Brasil

Do you think the team can do it?

Please, can you bet on other stuff too? maybe if you and @criptoevangelista make a bet on bitcoin price we can finally hit 900k usd per bitcoin, that would be amazing

I'm betting against corinthians here, just for the sake of having fun
I don't think they'll get to the 7th spot

in my opinion the price of bitcoin will not reach $900,000 Grin

and regarding Corinthians, they are having a lot of luck. This is the result of good changes made by the coach. I am talking about hiring Memphis Depay. He brought more motivation to the players. I believe that Corinthians can finish in 7th place. I say this because Corinthians' next 4 opponents are not very strong. Corinthians' next 4 opponents are the following: Vasco da Gama (they have only won 2 games in the last 5 games); Criciúma (they have not won any games in the last 5 games); Bahia (they have also not won any games in the last 5 games); Gremio (they have only won 1 game in the last 5 games).

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Quote from: JahriMeayer on November 21, 2024, 06:11:37 AM

Today's most exciting match was between atletico mineiro and Botafogo where many excepted that Botafogo has more possibility to win the match but the final result is draw with 0-0 score. Unfortunately Botafogo is strong team, standing at the top of the qualifying table with 69 points where they won 20 matches out of 34. And atletico mineiro comes at 11th position with 43 points where they won half of the match in comparison of their opponent, i mean 10 match out of 34. Although anything can happen in the match which will be considered as normal incident lol. But i excepted a single goal from Botafogo. After the start of the match, both team fight hard and Botafogo able to continue their dominance over their opponent and gave their best effort to score goals but their bad luck no goal was score by them as well as they did many mistakes too. they need to upgrade their strategy a little more. Besides atletico mineiro defense system was good enough. They got 30% of control during the whole match but they tried to handle many dengerous shots and gave their best to stopped their opponent. Otherwise they could lost. But Botafogo makes disappointed by not to scoring a single goal.

We saw start of match which was not in the side of any team but after that players try to do goals and they left their defense position and after that Clube Atlético Mineiro football team players did struggle and they did goal at 40 minutes of the match and Rubens was the person who did goal at 40 minutes of the match and after that players of opponent team did not play well in the first half but after that made plan to do goals and they attacked on Clube Atlético Mineiro and Botafogo team did 2 goals consistently and first goal was done by Barboza and did this goal at 97 minutes of the match and last goal of the match was done by Henrique and he did at 100 minutes of the match.I am impressed by the performance of Botafogo team because they did excellent come back in this match.

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Quote from: Pumared on November 21, 2024, 08:39:30 AM

My focus was elsewhere and I had already forgotten about Corinthians. They left very quickly, could it be that all this was the Mephis effect on Corinthians?

I remember that he had a clause that if he was relegated to the B series he could leave the team.

The reason Corinthians woke up and started winning games and climbing up the rank is that I bet with @criptoevangelista that Corinthians would be relegated this year, and then it skyrocketed Grin

But it looks like Memphis have given the team a boost and Yuri Alberto is finally scoring more goals
But I remain firm in my criticism, Corinthians were very lucky to reach two semi-finals that they could have used much better and been in some final, the Copa do Brasil or the Sudamericana.

Now the fight for Corinthians is to try and get as many points as possible to finish seventh and earn a place in the pre-Libertadores, since Flamengo is already classified because of Copa do Brasil

Do you think the team can do it?

Please, can you bet on other stuff too? maybe if you and @criptoevangelista make a bet on bitcoin price we can finally hit 900k usd per bitcoin, that would be amazing

I'm betting against corinthians here, just for the sake of having fun
I don't think they'll get to the 7th spot

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Quote from: Pumared on November 21, 2024, 08:39:30 AM

My focus was elsewhere and I had already forgotten about Corinthians. They left very quickly, could it be that all this was the Mephis effect on Corinthians?

I remember that he had a clause that if he was relegated to the B series he could leave the team.

The reason Corinthians woke up and started winning games and climbing up the rank is that I bet with @criptoevangelista that Corinthians would be relegated this year, and then it skyrocketed Grin

But it looks like Memphis have given the team a boost and Yuri Alberto is finally scoring more goals
But I remain firm in my criticism, Corinthians were very lucky to reach two semi-finals that they could have used much better and been in some final, the Copa do Brasil or the Sudamericana.

Now the fight for Corinthians is to try and get as many points as possible to finish seventh and earn a place in the pre-Libertadores, since Flamengo is already classified because of Copa do Brasil

Do you think the team can do it?

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Quote from: ajanwalker on November 21, 2024, 04:43:43 AM

Corinthians, who were in the relegation zone six weeks ago, showed a great performance and got 5 wins and 1 draw in the last six matches. 90+4, while leading 2-1 against International in the draw. He scored a goal in the next minute and the match ended 2-2.
Even if they win the remaining 4 matches, it is not possible to enter the top 6. Even if this is the case, Corinthians will want to continue this winning streak.
The other team I follow in this league is Fluminense. Will it stay in the league or be relegated to SeriB in the remaining 5 matches? It has a good squad and it will be played at home against teams like Cuiaba and Criciuma. They must get 6 points from these matches, otherwise they will be relegated to the lower league.

My focus was elsewhere and I had already forgotten about Corinthians. They left very quickly, could it be that all this was the Mephis effect on Corinthians?

I remember that he had a clause that if he was relegated to the B series he could leave the team.

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Quote from: rdluffy on November 18, 2024, 07:19:33 AM

Finally, finally, finally Cheesy

All the teams now have the same number of games and we can see the table better Cheesy

Only 5 matches remaining, 15 points in dispute
Lots of cool stuff going on: 3 teams trying to be champions, a direct confrontation between Palmeiras and Botafogo, more spots in the Libertadores and a fierce fight against relegation

Looking very tight on top right ? Just a few points between Plameiras and Botafogo and a life time rivalry between them will make this last 5 games an epic battle for points. For me , I still think Botafogo will be champions at the end because they had a blast of season , with important victories , amazing goals but also winning the big games against important teams.

I also didn't expect to see Bragantino being in the relegation zone and if they don't change something in the next 2 games , I'm afraid Serie B will be waiting for them. Personally , I expected to see Corinthians there after having so many problems this year and not being able to save the club from financial problems but the players seems to save the season by avoiding relegation zone.

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Today's most exciting match was between atletico mineiro and Botafogo where many excepted that Botafogo has more possibility to win the match but the final result is draw with 0-0 score. Unfortunately Botafogo is strong team, standing at the top of the qualifying table with 69 points where they won 20 matches out of 34. And atletico mineiro comes at 11th position with 43 points where they won half of the match in comparison of their opponent, i mean 10 match out of 34. Although anything can happen in the match which will be considered as normal incident lol. But i excepted a single goal from Botafogo. After the start of the match, both team fight hard and Botafogo able to continue their dominance over their opponent and gave their best effort to score goals but their bad luck no goal was score by them as well as they did many mistakes too. they need to upgrade their strategy a little more. Besides atletico mineiro defense system was good enough. They got 30% of control during the whole match but they tried to handle many dengerous shots and gave their best to stopped their opponent. Otherwise they could lost. But Botafogo makes disappointed by not to scoring a single goal.

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Quote from: Pumared on November 20, 2024, 10:26:20 PM

It seems that Botafogo doesn't want to be champion again. Will they make the same mistake again? They just drew with AtléticoMG. As I said, this trophy goes to Fortaleza, but not because of their merit, but because of the opponent's stupidity.

It looks like the old saying is going to happen again: There are things that only happen to Botafogo.

Just imagine, losing the 2024 Brazilian championship title and also losing to Atlético-MG in the Libertadores final. Would be quite a tragedy. But a team that wants to be champion cannot afford to "stumble" in the final stretch of a championship, especially when its opponents are very close in the table.

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Corinthians, who were in the relegation zone six weeks ago, showed a great performance and got 5 wins and 1 draw in the last six matches. 90+4, while leading 2-1 against International in the draw. He scored a goal in the next minute and the match ended 2-2.
Even if they win the remaining 4 matches, it is not possible to enter the top 6. Even if this is the case, Corinthians will want to continue this winning streak.
The other team I follow in this league is Fluminense. Will it stay in the league or be relegated to SeriB in the remaining 5 matches? It has a good squad and it will be played at home against teams like Cuiaba and Criciuma. They must get 6 points from these matches, otherwise they will be relegated to the lower league.

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It seems that Botafogo doesn't want to be champion again. Will they make the same mistake again? They just drew with AtléticoMG. As I said, this trophy goes to Fortaleza, but not because of their merit, but because of the opponent's stupidity.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 19, 2024, 03:36:26 PM

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I don't know if he's capable of leaving his comfort zone. After all, he was taken off the team, was a reserve and on some occasions was the reserve's reserve, that is, the third option in attack... That should have been enough for him to realize that he needed to improve... But no... all he did was complain and blame others. It's typical of a person who plays the victim, who thinks that the problem is never them... What a shame. Because I would never trade Flamengo for Cruzeiro, they are two completely different realities. Flamengo is the team that most players dream of playing for, he should have given more value to the club and the fans.

A curiosity, I thought Gabigol was already at the end of his career, after all his attitudes seem very much like players who are already tired and at the end of their career, almost ready to retire, but he's only 28 years old Shocked

At 28 he could have been playing for a big team in Europe in peak performance, but he was one of many who went to Inter Milan early, at the age of 20, and wasn't mature enough to play at European level
One thing that gets in the way, and this is my opinion, but it seems that those who play for Flamengo tend to have a lot more time off than other teams, like he will play when he wants, he will not give their 100%, this is what I think

he played 10 matches in Europe, and only scored 2 goals

But after all, I bet he's going to do a good season in Cruzeiro next year

Yes, Gabigol is only 28 years old, he should be at his physical and technical peak, but apparently he is still quite immature, with several episodes of questionable behavior, like when Flamengo won the 2022 Libertadores and said they didn't need the Brazilian national team, like, there are several small things but in the end they show a lot of the player's personality... not to mention the singer phase using the nickname Liu Gabi lol lol...

I also think he can have a good season at Cruzeiro, after all it's a new environment and it could be good for him. I would really like him to go to Corinthians and bother you with his, let's say, "exotic" temperament lol

sports players don't usually have a long professional time, right? I mean, do we still find any players that are active after 45?
40 is probably already quite old age to be on the fields

then they usually pivot their careers to mansions, parties and other stuff I don't even know what...

In football, anyone over 33 is considered a veteran. A player who has not had a long history of injuries can perform well until he is 37 or 38 years old. It is very rare for a football player to live past 40 and play at a high level, and those who do are mostly goalkeepers. We had Zé Roberto and Valdo who played past 40, and now Cristiano Ronaldo will reach that high level, but these are extremely rare cases.

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Quote from: rdluffy on November 19, 2024, 11:11:54 AM

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I don't know if he's capable of leaving his comfort zone. After all, he was taken off the team, was a reserve and on some occasions was the reserve's reserve, that is, the third option in attack... That should have been enough for him to realize that he needed to improve... But no... all he did was complain and blame others. It's typical of a person who plays the victim, who thinks that the problem is never them... What a shame. Because I would never trade Flamengo for Cruzeiro, they are two completely different realities. Flamengo is the team that most players dream of playing for, he should have given more value to the club and the fans.

A curiosity, I thought Gabigol was already at the end of his career, after all his attitudes seem very much like players who are already tired and at the end of their career, almost ready to retire, but he's only 28 years old Shocked

At 28 he could have been playing for a big team in Europe in peak performance, but he was one of many who went to Inter Milan early, at the age of 20, and wasn't mature enough to play at European level
One thing that gets in the way, and this is my opinion, but it seems that those who play for Flamengo tend to have a lot more time off than other teams, like he will play when he wants, he will not give their 100%, this is what I think

he played 10 matches in Europe, and only scored 2 goals

But after all, I bet he's going to do a good season in Cruzeiro next year

This just shows that he prefers comfort to going abroad to make a name for himself and earn in a currency that is worth 10 times the local currency. He is not a performance player, he is a player who gets angry and can play well or badly. It is never constant, I would not bet anything on him from now on.

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Quote from: Pumared on November 18, 2024, 07:49:58 AM

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For me, there's no point in him going to another team if he's going to play the same way he did at Flamengo. In the end, it's all about him wanting to challenge himself. If he has everything in his hands at a new club, just like at Flamengo, there's no reason for him to become better or leave his comfort zone.

This is Gabigol 6th season playing with Flamengo and indeed always experiencing very significant decline in performance from each season, now he is bad Flamengo player and does not show any contribution, clearly this is not like when he was at the beginning of joining Flamengo who played very well.
It seems that leaving the comfort zone will also be difficult for Gabigol, there will be few European team interested in him in conditions like this, especially now that Europe is filled with many young stars and this is the reason for Gabigol difficulty in getting place there unless he only joins mediocre team.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on November 19, 2024, 07:18:33 AM

I don't know if he's capable of leaving his comfort zone. After all, he was taken off the team, was a reserve and on some occasions was the reserve's reserve, that is, the third option in attack... That should have been enough for him to realize that he needed to improve... But no... all he did was complain and blame others. It's typical of a person who plays the victim, who thinks that the problem is never them... What a shame. Because I would never trade Flamengo for Cruzeiro, they are two completely different realities. Flamengo is the team that most players dream of playing for, he should have given more value to the club and the fans.

A curiosity, I thought Gabigol was already at the end of his career, after all his attitudes seem very much like players who are already tired and at the end of their career, almost ready to retire, but he's only 28 years old Shocked

At 28 he could have been playing for a big team in Europe in peak performance, but he was one of many who went to Inter Milan early, at the age of 20, and wasn't mature enough to play at European level
One thing that gets in the way, and this is my opinion, but it seems that those who play for Flamengo tend to have a lot more time off than other teams, like he will play when he wants, he will not give their 100%, this is what I think

he played 10 matches in Europe, and only scored 2 goals

But after all, I bet he's going to do a good season in Cruzeiro next year

Yes, Gabigol is only 28 years old, he should be at his physical and technical peak, but apparently he is still quite immature, with several episodes of questionable behavior, like when Flamengo won the 2022 Libertadores and said they didn't need the Brazilian national team, like, there are several small things but in the end they show a lot of the player's personality... not to mention the singer phase using the nickname Liu Gabi lol lol...

I also think he can have a good season at Cruzeiro, after all it's a new environment and it could be good for him. I would really like him to go to Corinthians and bother you with his, let's say, "exotic" temperament lol

sports players don't usually have a long professional time, right? I mean, do we still find any players that are active after 45?
40 is probably already quite old age to be on the fields

then they usually pivot their careers to mansions, parties and other stuff I don't even know what...

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Quote from: rdluffy on November 19, 2024, 11:11:54 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on November 19, 2024, 07:18:33 AM

I don't know if he's capable of leaving his comfort zone. After all, he was taken off the team, was a reserve and on some occasions was the reserve's reserve, that is, the third option in attack... That should have been enough for him to realize that he needed to improve... But no... all he did was complain and blame others. It's typical of a person who plays the victim, who thinks that the problem is never them... What a shame. Because I would never trade Flamengo for Cruzeiro, they are two completely different realities. Flamengo is the team that most players dream of playing for, he should have given more value to the club and the fans.

A curiosity, I thought Gabigol was already at the end of his career, after all his attitudes seem very much like players who are already tired and at the end of their career, almost ready to retire, but he's only 28 years old Shocked

At 28 he could have been playing for a big team in Europe in peak performance, but he was one of many who went to Inter Milan early, at the age of 20, and wasn't mature enough to play at European level
One thing that gets in the way, and this is my opinion, but it seems that those who play for Flamengo tend to have a lot more time off than other teams, like he will play when he wants, he will not give their 100%, this is what I think

he played 10 matches in Europe, and only scored 2 goals

But after all, I bet he's going to do a good season in Cruzeiro next year

Yes, Gabigol is only 28 years old, he should be at his physical and technical peak, but apparently he is still quite immature, with several episodes of questionable behavior, like when Flamengo won the 2022 Libertadores and said they didn't need the Brazilian national team, like, there are several small things but in the end they show a lot of the player's personality... not to mention the singer phase using the nickname Liu Gabi lol lol...

I also think he can have a good season at Cruzeiro, after all it's a new environment and it could be good for him. I would really like him to go to Corinthians and bother you with his, let's say, "exotic" temperament lol

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