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Topic: Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable? - page 14. (Read 4319 times)

legendary
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He’s done it many times before, I remember a few years back it was a 12-13 week delay. It was actually me who PM’d The Pharmacist to get involved & try to help. I wasn’t a DT Member back then so I was really frustrated at not being paid so I reached out to The Pharmacist.

lightlord only paid once he received negative trust from The Pharmacist.

Inexcusable to be honest, some people in poorer countries rely on signature campaign pay to help them live.

I posted about this in 2018 & it seems like nothing has improved.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48445302

I would suggest people remove their 777Coin avatars & sigs, don’t give him free advertising.
I assume he’s pulling the same thing with his Bitvest posters too.
legendary
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Yes, I've got to admit I found it unacceptable that the 777coin signature campaign went from weekly to fortnightly then started dragging on from their without any official explanation, or even response to repeated inquiries from more senior participants.  I too found a new signature campaign and moved on - and I have sympathies to those who are still awaiting payment.

My advice to anyone looking to join ANY SigCamp:  Choose more carefully which campaign you join - especially if it is well documented that the Campaign doesn't pay in a timely manor.
legendary
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I don't know what you think.
My take: if the people involved don't create a scam accusation or leave negative feedback, I'd say users who aren't directly involved shouldn't bother about this either.

I agree with this, if the people in the campaign don't care why should we?
If the campaign thread was willed with dozens of people screaming where is my money, then I can see a discussion being needed.
There are a few of them, but from a quick look it appeared most people were if not O.K. with it, at least not stressed out and screaming about it.

As for the casino payouts being delayed, that is a different discussion and Lightlord should be addressing those issues.

-Dave

legendary
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I participated in the Bitvest campaign for a few months, and I can say that this was one of my main objections. Uncertainty. I never knew when and if I would get paid for the work. In my opinion, that's not a good approach, no matter how big or small the campaign, how long it runs or who runs it.

As in RL, when someone is hired to do a specific job and signs a contract, the moment the job is done, the money is no longer yours, but theirs, and you are obliged to compensate them for their work.

@LoyceV, I think everyone has a right to their opinion in a public forum, especially if asked by the OP.
legendary
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I don't know what you think.
My take: if the people involved don't create a scam accusation or leave negative feedback, I'd say users who aren't directly involved shouldn't bother about this either.
hero member
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You have done well to write about his lapses and why this keeps on happening. Someone should try to alert us about what's happening, although I don't know is present situation maybe his sick or not but it will be okay if anyone knows his telegram or Instagram handle so that we can know his present status not judging blinding without obvious information about what could have gone wrong.
sr. member
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CB will pause the campaign after this current round, in case that the previous rounds were not processed/paid yet which is likely.
It is the best thing to do for now.

Lightlord hasn't been active for 10days now, last active was on the 26th so that means he hasn't been seeing all the messages I have been sending since last 10days. Hopefully when he comes online he sees the message but if this continues until this rounds end that means I'll have to pause campaign until all previous payment are processed.

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If I recall correctly, I also have two unpaid rounds when I left the campaign.
Edit: It was Round 137 and Round 138.
legendary
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Chronology and actual situation for now possible: @CryptopreneurBrainboss, knows better, what happened to: @Lightlord, all this time, I think at least @Lightlord told @CBs, where, and how he is now, the reason is simple for now @CBs, trusted for @Lightlord campaign.

Payment issues, 1-4 weeks, in lump sum payout, maybe I don't know much about that and also the campaigns: BITVEST and 777Coin, I've never been a participant, My response, the factor that causes payments up to two months at a time, is because weekly payments are too low in BTC for participants, can't be sent, high fees, higher shipping costs than income, maybe.

In my opinion, you should ask @CBs directly, the real situation, of course my talk doesn't touch on the neutral left by: @The Pharmacist, that's another story, he knows better to turn negative to neutral.
hero member
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This is unethical activity. The rules, in my opinion, should always be the rules. I realize the lightlord campaign is one of the oldest on the forum, but if you recruited someone for a weekly work, why pay him after 2-3 weeks? That's a contract violation; since you have a campaign manager, why not delegate payment duty to him? I'm not sure, but I believe that's why Hhambuz abandoned the campaign. It's past time for his sig participants to speak up. I see he launched a token while also running two gambling sites, guy you can't do it all by yourself. Now I see why his campaign is one of the worst around; it's always open since no one wants to stay.
legendary
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I know that he is an old, well-known member of the forum, and that, for example, in the past there have already been problems of this kind, in which The Pharmacist left him negative trust, later changing it to neutral when he paid.

Two things are happening today:

1) Excessively long delays in signature campaign payments, and
2) Delays in allowing withdrawals from casinos. You can see several cases of even weeks in the official thread.
3) Not paying his moderators or at least to do so on time, as promised, and again fail to communicate with them. (Edited to add this point on 10/21/2021 due to feedback left by trandhidung, later changed to neutral.)

When I started with the campaign, there was already a delay of about 5 weeks in paying us, then it went up to 6, then 7. Someone who had been with the campaign for a long time explained that in principle the payments were supposed to be weekly, but it usually took 2 weeks to pay, then 3, then 4.

It has to be said that when he pays with a backdated payment he gives a small bonus. The longer the delay the bigger the bonus.

In the end I left the campaign because I found a better one and I am still waiting to be paid for two weeks from 10-11 weeks ago.

In the middle of this, the campaign manager announced that the payments would be bimonthly. Something that I thought was not going to solve anything, because a person who pays you at 6-7 or 8 weeks when he has to pay you weekly, if he has to pay you every two months nothing guarantees that he is not going to do it every 3 or 4 months.

Now also, Lightlord has not logged in to the forum since September 26th. He might have had some personal problem or something but he should have left someone in charge. In a licensed regulated fiat casino, that would not happen.

Anyway, it seems that the man is like that and takes a long time to pay although he always pays in the end but I understand that his behavior is at least morally questionable.

I don't know what you think.
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