Topic: Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable? - page 13. (Read 4319 times)

Are you still owed money? If so, you would have standing to open a scam accusation against Lightlord that should result in negative trust given that he is apparently 10 weeks behind in payments. Any negative trust he receives should be removed once he catches up on payments.

Given the "bonus" being given for late payments, I would encourage those owed money to remain patient. Although at one point I would suggest that participants leave the campaign until/unless payments are caught up.

Our relationship with Lightlord is like employee and employer. In its simple form, the attitude of employer who constantly makes late payments will lower the morale and motivation of his employee. I've been in this campaign for a year and he only paid out once, exactly when I needed it. With this attitude, is not acceptable he owes us a big sorry.

I happen to stumble upon the thread and found Brainboss did send lightlord messages and talks about it.
Also, Brainboss isn't paid for 10 or more weeks himself so Blaming the manager isn't a good thing if anyone does that he clearly mentioned lightlord handles payments and he's there just to manage the spreadsheets and post counts.

I think lightlord will pay but delays are somewhat annoying to the users I can see.

Based on the spreadsheet, the total amount overdue for the last 10 rounds is: 0.2359419 (Bitvest) + 0.1070795 (777Coin), or about $19,000 based on Bitcoin's current value (not including bonuses). Quite a bit, I must say.

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I'm not entirely sure because I wasn't around at the time. The last time I checked (a few months ago) I believe Brainboss gets about $50 a week as a manager, which is a bit below Hhampuz's standard after all. 


True, but many of these members would not even be accepted into better paid campaigns due to their post quality. In fact, If you look closely, there are some members out there who post exclusively in local boards without earning a single merit in months.

If I were a participant or manager of the campaign then I would leave the campaign if payment was not held on time. On-time means what was promised, it would week or months. So the behavior of Lightlord isn't acceptable at all. I am not sure if this thread would help to get participant's rewards, otherwise, you might ask the manager about real-time updates. If all tries failed then you might create an allegation about not distributing campaign rewards. We aren't involved with that campaign and we can't decide anything suddenly.

I had to dig to find this post, but I thought it was worth quoting here so that everyone knows that lightlord acknowledged that he needs to monitor his campaigns/campaign managers more closely so that the campaigns run smoothly:

This was when Lutpin was managing two of lightlord's campaigns, and even though lightlord tries to shift the blame to Lutpin for the late payments, he obviously knows he's the boss and is ultimately responsible for participants getting paid.

I wondered why Hhampuz stopped managing both Bitvest and 777coin signature campaigns sometime back, and yet he's a very good manager especially when it comes to casino related campaigns, well, I can now clearly see why.



But their pay per post ratio isn't even that good compared to so many active campaigns that pay out weekly right now. If I were in their position, it doesn't make sense having to wait for weeks, yet there are better campaigns. I would leave in a blink.

I didn't realize it's been this long! At 150 to 2200 sat/post and up to 60 posts per week, that's up to $700 per person.

Since Lightlord pays a bonus for late payments it doesn't seem like he doesn't have the money. It looks like he doesn't have the time, in which case he should just hire a trusted escrow to make payments on time.

Yes, I agree. I am not sure where this "sick" news came from and how credible it is, but it is hard to believe. You must be really sick to not be able to send bitcoins from one address to another, or to send PMs to the manager of your campaigns to let him know what is happening. My apologies to the lightlord if he is in a fucking coma or something, but based on my previous experience, I doubt that is the case.

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As of now, Brainboss has updated the bounty threads, and campaigns are now "on hold." Kudos for that, by the way.

Yeah, I meant no criticism toward CBB; I didn't even know he was managing the campaign when I wrote my post, as I didn't read the entire thread beforehand.  I was thinking back to the Lutpin situation, when he and lightlord were both being derelict in their duties.  In this case lightlord should be giving CCB enough funds well in advance to pay the participants, and I'm not sure what the problem is this time, but I've left lightlord a negative.

You'd have to be extremely sick to not be able to send bitcoin to a campaign manager, like deathbed sick.  Unable to use your fingers sick.  And I seriously doubt that's the case with lightlord, given that he has a history of not giving a shit whether his campaign participants get paid. 

Hello guys. First of all, I would like to thank you because you opened this topic while you weren't a participant of the campaign. I can see that CryptopreneurBrainboss has been doing everything he can and he has been managing the campaign really good for a long time. And I think that the decision to pause the campaign is quite appropriate. I hope that lightlord gets well soon if he is having any health problem now. But the most salient point here is this actually: Even if lightlord makes the payments today, the same things will happen one more time in case lightlord disappears again. As far as I know, a gambler who hasn't withdrawn his money from Bitvest for a long time opened a topic about it on the forum. Obviously, the problem is not only about the signature campaign. I think that the current working of Bitvest is harming its credibility. For example, if something bad happens to Steve, we are all sure that none of these problems will happen on Sportsbet.io.

After that Hhampuz managed the campaign for a while but I'm not exactly sure why Hhampuz quit the job. And CB came in. You possibly know recently he has announced about ElonCoin. I am in their discord and telegram group. In discord, DEV said that lightlord is sick and will be back. This is a news from September 16.
It's sad to see how bitvest and 777coin campaign is being run.

Brainboss is running the campaign well though. even posted just recently to pause the campaign if lightlord does login yet. it was said that he is sick as said in this thread . sick is too general but it explains the long absence but maybe just a few minutes of his day to respond here.

no participants have come here to complain though. but this i guess is because lightlord had run the campaign for a time.

I have left neutral feedback for the moment, but reflecting these facts. Yes, let's give it a couple of weeks.


Hey The Pharmacist, I agree with you, but I think that here when you say "campaign manager" you should say "campaign owner", because the campaign manager is Brainboss and his behavior has been excellent. Another thing is Lightlord's.

I don't think that a signature campaign payout is enough for someone who lives in a poor country, I am from one of that and I can attest that it's not enough money even if I go for the maximum amount post per week. Signature campaign is just a side hustle and shouldn't be treated as a job. As for @lightlord, I think that there's going to be some level of tolerance before things go sideways and I think that @lightlord owes us explanation for the long absence and the prolonged delays in payment. Personally, I don't mind the delays as long as they pay but I understand that we're not all the same so it's best if there's action to be done.

Same old, same old.  I would never join a campaign that he's in charge of, unless he hired a very reputable manager, of which there are only a handful on the forum.  Last time he had Lutpin run his campaigns, you know what happened--a similar thing to what you described in the OP.

Campaign managers that don't respect their participants annoy me to no end, and that includes late payments.  They have a job and the participants have a job, even though there's no contract, and I think the relationship ought to function like a RL employer-employee one, where it would be unacceptable to hand out a paycheck late.  That's especially important at a time like this, when bitcoin is being very volatile.  A delay in payment of even 12  hours could mean that the participant loses a lot of purchasing power.  Bitcoin is money, right?

Props to Foxpup and DarkStar_, by the way.  

No offense, but that's the absolute opposite tactic you should take.  The participants should stand in a united front and demand payment immediately.  That way there would be no chance of retaliation, unless he decided to fire all of you at the same time.  I understand that's the reason why most campaign participants don't complain.  Hopefully that's the reason and not that they're all satisfied to be treated like suckers.

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Let’s give lightlord a week or two & if he doesn’t pay up I will paint him red. What do you think?
Please remind me if I forget.

You could start a flag if you are financially affected by him (he owes you pay).

Just to clarify that although I am no longer part of the campaign, I am somehow involved because I have been owed two weeks for more than two months. We are quite a few people in this situation, we left the sig campaign when the rates went down about two months ago, but he still owes us money. As for those who are still in those campaigns (there are two, 777 and Bitvest), there are some complaints, but I guess they don't make much noise first because they know that although it takes time, they end up paying, and I suppose for fear that complaining too much might end up working against them. .


You and LoiceV know more about how reputation and Trust works on this forum than I do but to me they seem like two facts that at least seem morally questionable of the reputation of the same person.

Regarding this fact, there was the case of a member who had invested a considerable amount in Bitvest's Banrkoll. When he went to withdraw it, it took him three weeks or more and he said he had had problems with his wife about it. In another case, someone won a good amount and because the withdrawal took a long time to process he ended up gambling and losing it all.

I think I'll leave neutral feedback reflecting this for the time being.


As you have seen, Brainboss is the campaign manager and I think the opinion of the vast majority of us is that he is an excellent campaign manager. Besides the fact that he, effectively, does not have access to the funds. It is Lightlord who makes the payments.

Are there sufficient funds in the escrow address to pay participants?
I’m on the road, only have mobile use so difficult to check.

Edit - And who is the campaign manager?

Edit 2 - Seems it’s all on lightlord, the campaign manager doesn’t process the payments.


I’m happy to give lightlord neg trust if he doesn’t pay in the next 2-3 weeks.

We cannot expect many to take this step and to risk losing their position in the campaign, especially if, as you mentioned, it represents a significant source of income for some of them. Due to their unique Tier-based system, many participants had to work for months, and some even for years, to earn their positions on the list.

I believe the campaign manager should take responsibility for this and make a decision.