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September 30, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
You could limit it to people from countries having at least as generous a welfare system.

Which is essentially what the Western nations do with visa-free travel policies.

But that doesn't gain us any momentum in terms of anarchist, Libertarian values and spreading those values around the world. Trump is talking about using our trump card (our economy) to force some changes throughout the world. Some of his details seem incorrect, but if he gets good advice, he might be on to something.
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September 30, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
bigtimespaghetti, my prior post may illicit the interpretation that I am for government control over migration and actually I am not. But there are two problems that prevent my from advocating an open border policy:

  • Government subsidized welfare for all.
  • Other States don't reciprocate.

As leader of the USA, I would propose that an open door policy (no visa needed, same rights as any citizen including buying land, doing business in your own name, working, etc) for citizens on countries that had the same policy towards our citizens (and which had the same separation of religion and State, same constitutional right to bear arms, and the same constitutional protection of speech, and our other core constitutional values). But this open door policy would only be in effect once all State-sponsored welfare had been dismantled, so that migrants would not have any incentive to come and leech on the system.

You could limit it to people from countries having at least as generous a welfare system.

None of this would really change anything as your conditions would already eliminate virtually the entire world if not all of it, and my condition might further limit. So ultimately people would still just migrate without permission as they do now.

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September 30, 2015, 08:13:40 PM
bigtimespaghetti, my prior post may illicit the interpretation that I am for government control over migration and actually I am not. But there are two problems that prevent me from advocating an open border policy:

  • Government subsidized welfare for all.
  • Other States don't reciprocate.

As leader of the USA, I would propose that an open door policy (no visa needed, same rights as any citizen including buying land, doing business in your own name, working, etc) for citizens on countries that had the same policy towards our citizens (and which had the same separation of religion and State, same constitutional right to bear arms, and the same constitutional protection of speech, and our other core constitutional values). But this open door policy would only be in effect once all State-sponsored welfare had been dismantled, so that migrants would not have any incentive to come and leech on the system.

Also all arriving tourists and migrants would have to provide proof of sufficient funds to live above the poverty line. And any non-citizen caught doing vagrancy would be deported to their home country (and the cost of deportation would be a debt owed by that deportee, forgivable at 7 years but not before that time).

As for universal health care, I would dump it. Any one who can't pay for their own health care suffers period. Just like it used to be in the Philippines when I arrived here. I saw nothing wrong with that. Some people didn't get medical care because they didn't make it a priority to work and save for that.

Only when patients have to haggle for their own health care, can humans get serious about fighting the Monsantos and the poisons they eat and do not seem to care because they have medical insurance.
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September 30, 2015, 05:59:21 PM
They just love to "suckle the teet of socialism" haha, it's painful to watch this self destruction, but the wests solutions to the problems caused by socialism is to demand more socialism, they keep throwing more fuel on the fire.  Angry
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September 30, 2015, 05:12:33 PM
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TPTB is reading the USA right, IMO.  I do not know if we will split up, but there is no doubt that more Americans have more hard-ass ideas than most Europeans & Brits that I have known.

It has been this way (Socialist notions among so many there) since at least the early 1980s, when I visited friends for dinner in London.  During that period, the big issue in Europe were the Pershing Missiles, how war-like Reagan was, etc.  I was completely dumbfounded that virtually all attendees at that dinner (eight or so) ignored the menace and danger of the Soviet Union, complete ignorance...  

While I know much less about the "European mentality" rather than that here in America, I would concur w/ TBTP that their problems are not only more difficult to solve, but a real unwillingness to solve them.

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I thought that the correct name of the country "formerly known as Germany" was Deutschistan!

I wish I had a reference, but I read an article maybe a year ago saying that before France goes majority-Muslim that a Neo-Nazi populist party would get voted in at some point.  And that future French government would "kick them all out".  

France has a tradition of being perfectly OK with very strict governments.  And even I would be sympathetic were all of France to become like Marseille.
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September 30, 2015, 04:10:10 PM
Austristan and Germanistan will be quickly becoming 3rld world countries soon, increase the taxes fast to 99% to pay for the invading horde's benefits.

Then further print more money because not even the 99% taxes will be enough.


Pretty bad, and in the meantime the EU is strenghtening  , becoming a federation, stripping away all remaining rights. It will be very bad future guys.
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September 30, 2015, 03:43:56 PM

It's one thing sheltering economic migrants and some refugees, it's another to shut down infrastructure. It's total madness.

Your reaction (which is abhorrent to me and shows that you and I do not have a compatible attitude) exemplifies (and I noticed a similar attitude in the videos of Germans at the above quoted link) what I am contemplating is a major difference between the attitudes of Europeans and United States' Americans. The Europeans are so in love with socialism, collectivism, fairness, social justice, etc.. that they think it is acceptable for the State to be responsible for "refugees".

Whereas, there is a segment of the USA population that thinks we should only take care of ourselves and fuck the rest of the world (the USA was historically isolationist):

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/

I think the outcome of this difference is Europe can't possibly get organized to stop the devolution of the society into total madness, and thus it will get worse and worse until it reaches the point where a neo-nazi movement takes hold again.

Whereas, the USA will splinter and pockets of defiance will break away from the morass, such as on the state level, as well as rise of the national third party defiance as captured by Trump's polarizing 23% popularity. so the USA will be a mix of pockets that resist the morass and morasses that fail and fall away over time. Thus the USA won't descend all the way into neo-nazi hell, but Europe will.

There will be strife in the USA earlier than in Europe, but later in Europe the outcome will be much more horrific.

I don't have any vestment in Europe, but if I did I would pull it pronto.
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September 30, 2015, 08:51:17 AM
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This thread is actually in honor of CoinCube (who started the very popular "Economic Devastation" thread).

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But, that thread wanders into difficult philosophical terrain, and I am interested in hearing opinions (practical!) re what we can do about "Economic Totalitarianism":

1) The new War on CA$H (Zero Hedge is covering this tpoic pretty well)

2) ZIRP/NIRP

3) Whether any of our apparently worthless Prez candidates have any decent ideas to save our financial butts.  And who is worse (the worst).

4a) Ideas that EACH of us might be able to do to defend ourselves from abusive .gov trying to take ever-more of our hard-earned money...

4b) Where assets like BTC, "alts", physical gold, foreign real estate, "Plan B", etc. may fit in...



Ideas anyone?

I´m too old to learn to program, nor interested (in this thread) in obscure discussions of Marxism, "idiots", personal attacks, etc.

I want practical ideaz and resultz, fishez!

For me this is like imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual. I think make they make it hard for some investors.
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bigtimespaghetti.com
September 30, 2015, 04:32:25 AM

It's one thing sheltering economic migrants and some refugees, it's another to shut down infrastructure. It's total madness.
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September 30, 2015, 01:40:04 AM
No stats on ginger? I try to eat a few ounces a day. Cheap and my body loves it   Grin
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September 29, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
I may consider your diet, I will see tonight how the bulletproof diet holds up to bjj (grappling) very taxing.

 The bulletproof guy seems to be against physical exertion, my motivation to change how I eat was to get out of this slump and back to regular training.

If it leaves me feeling light headed later, I will have to dump it for something else.
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September 29, 2015, 10:10:57 PM
I am feeling good again today. Took another 20,000 IU, continuing my strict diet. Actually getting some productive programming coding done this morning.


trollercoaster I advise shifting from that to my diet. I don't think the fasting and monotone diets are healthy long-term. You may get a boost from that initially especially if you've been eating and drinking poorly.

My diet is essentially raw tuna meals, orange or yellow starch sweet potato, raw wild leafy veggies, a cup or two of rice per day, water and probiotics. Soaking, sprouting, skimming off saponins soap while cooking Mung beans then eating over rice (mmmm delicious tastes like butter).

Stop the coffee entirely. Seriously you wonder why you feel depression and lethargic and the answer is caffeine. Substitute hard exercise (jogging is the hardest exercise), as it will kill the cravings.
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September 29, 2015, 06:15:59 PM
This recent change in diet has given my energy back and lifted me out of this two year long slump of lethargy, I am following the 16 hour fasting version of bulletproof.

 As for the depression I don't know yet, that appeared intermittently and was an indescribable feeling of rage and helplessness, which I hope doesn't return, if it does I will go and roast myself in the sun or something..

The noticable differences so far are increased energy, greater focus, and my shit no longer stinks like toxic waste.

So far I like it, it's easy to follow & it also suits my coffee addiction.. Cool

legendary
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September 29, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Profit means individual appropriation of surplus products and is therefore possible only on the basis of private ownership.


Profit indeed is only really possible with private ownership.  Profit derives from work on any surplus products/services.

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Re above dietary comments, when I have any doubts about my diet, I just reach for a Tabasco SlimJim...
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September 29, 2015, 11:15:33 AM
Profit means individual appropriation of surplus products and is therefore possible only on the basis of private ownership.
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September 29, 2015, 09:24:36 AM
Almost the entire human race is chronically deficient in Vitamin D3. 
 
I would bet half of all "depression" would disappear if we were forced to get 30 minutes in the sun / 8,000 IU of D3 a day. 
 
I know that personally, when I don't get sunlight and don't supplement heavily with Vitamin D, my brain and mood feel all kinds of wrong - I'll bet many of the "tortured" Victorian era artists just didn't get out in the damn sun enough.  I also can attest that when I *do* get proper sunlight/D3 everything feels right with the world: confidence, happiness, stability...
 
It's almost like we went through millions of years of natural selection that crafted us to thrive in natural conditions.
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September 29, 2015, 08:02:36 AM
Oh and I forgot that I took 20,000 IU of vitamin D3 this morning. First time since the starting the fasting that I took any supplement. So that might explain why I felt better later this evening. The vitamin D3 is known to be very helpful with M.S.., and the serum level of D3 is the lowest when a M.S. patient is having a flare-up.
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September 29, 2015, 06:33:41 AM
altcoinUK, I am not by any means criticizing eating raw vegetables as major boost to health. And I concur with smooth that if you are facing the serious diagnosis of advanced heart disease that you did, even a radical all vegan diet for the short-term may be appropriate and I take your word for the miraculous benefits you attained from it.

All I am saying is that long-term, 100% vegan seems to be a religion and not a good balance.

Your conceptualization of digestion appears to be too simplistic and not accurate. I suggest reading numerous pages of the gutcritters.com site as this gave me considerable insight into the complex ways that anti-nutrients interact with digestion. It is simply not true that if you poop regularly that means that digestion is working well. For example, the anti-nutrients can bind to the Zinc and make us deficient. There are many, many more details about it than I have memorized or could articulate. Better to read for yourself.

If you had heart disease then it may mean you have some genetic or other reason for concentrating cholesterol in your arteries. I don't have this problem. I need more and more cholesterol because it is the precursor to production of testosterone which I need for my intense sports activities. I don't have any issues with blood pressure, cholesterol, or heart disease. My heart is probably 1.5x the size of a normal heart because of the extreme endurance sports training I had done. At one point my resting pulse rate was something like 40. I am a bit off my form right now because of this serious dysfunction in my health which is interfering with the level of training I did throughout my life.

Even so, eating raw tuna shouldn't be high in cholesterol, not bad fats. It is reasonably lean meat. And you know it is wild if it is the red meat for the sushi because that only comes from the big tuna which roam the entire Pacific ocean. Do not eat Atlantic tuna! Forget the mercury scare, I recently quoted the stats on this forums and it is like 1 part per million. A non-issue.

Well I think this eating cups of raw wild grown green leafy veggies may be what I needed. It is what Terry Wahls advocates. I did it this morning and again tonight and I felt alert and painfree at 6:30pm. Normally I'd be passed out already in zombie land. I was feeling crap this morning. Forced myself to run 2.25 kms in the hot sun. Took a shower and proceeded to that grocery where I bought a free range (no antibiotics) egg, Yakult, can of tuna, the tiny dried salted fresh raw fish, and a not so ripe banana (just enough to eat, but not sweet). Felt still crap while eating that. Gym workout was descent, my bench press still sucks but I was able to motor strongly through bicep curls, leg presses, tricep dips (I can do 30), and I ran another 1 km, played basketball for an hour, then a few more barbel exercises, then headed home because I was feeling reasonably tired (but not overly so as in CFS). Got home didn't have too much pain in my stomach, but had very sore cranium especially at the back near the base of the skull (and we all know that is where M.S. attacks the brain stem). Then I realized we needed to go back out again to buy raw tuna for dinner and I was thinking I was too tired to go out again. But I got my socks and shoes back on with some effort (that will tell you what fatigue is like, you can't even put on your socks!), but before we left I ate some more raw wild green leafy veggies (these are veggies that aren't farmed here, they just grow wild). While we are out and about, the soreness at my head went away and I gained more and more energy. Also I should mention I drank a glass of Kombucha tea before putting on my shoes.

So today was more upbeat. If I could have more days like this, I'd be very happy.

P.S. I did eat the raw veggies before for a couple of weeks. But at that time I was trying to eat all kinds of veggies including nightshades. I didn't focus on the wild, unfarmed green leafy veggies. Also at that time, I didn't know what to eat to get satiated. I was eating sometimes crackers. Other times nuts. Other times mackerel out of a can. No one was cooking for me. I wasn't eating regularly and not eating all raw, wild, unfarmed, and organic foods. Getting the details right may be the difference between a cure and a failure. Now I understand that eating some properly soaked, sprouted, and well cooked (and soap saponins skimmed) Mung beans with rice is good for my soluble fiber and another source of protein than just always raw tuna. I am hopefully starting to get some insight into the proper balance in my diet. I hope.

P.S.S. My criticism to klee is that even though his symptoms aren't yet acute as mine, thus he can be lackadaisical w.r.t. to getting his diet right. And he make himself much worse with ketones nonsense and other nonsense of wasting time considering wild metabolic theories in research journals. Instead I am advising he follow a common sense approach which is to not do horrendous nutrition such as nuts and coffee for breakfast. Bacon and eggs isn't probably healthy either because the bacon is not likely prepared without any chemicals, and the pig was probably not wild, didn't eat sweet potatos and instead was probably fed grains and antibiotics. Rather than this nonsense, he could focus himself on getting maximum nutrition into his body then maybe he won't end up in an acute phase of M.S. as I have.
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