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Probably not. Water diet makes no sense at all. You need vital nutritions, without those nutritions you simply can't function. The question is from where you are getting the nutritions? With the programs I have pointed out you will get the healthy and necessary nutritions and in the same time avoiding stuff that causes diabetes, heart diseases, high blood pressure, etc.  

Furthermore, everyone, not some but everyone with diabetes and heart diseases - except who were ultimately fucked up already and were virtually dead - and went to the plant diet of Esselstyn brought the health condition under control and then reversed the condition. That's fact - that's how the human body reacts to plant diet. So you can imagine what is the beneficial effect of plant diet on a healthy body. So don't do the water diet, just try experimenting with plant based diet for 3-4 weeks and you will see the real benefit of it.

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Of course you don't need to take it to the extreme level, fish and seafood should be all right in my opinion even if Esselstyn says seafood is a big NO-NO. I am just trying to apply common sense in this case, that Japanese eat a lots of seafood and the life expectancy is the highest in Japan, therefore the data indicates that seafood probably wont kill you.

I think the point is to develop awareness by tuning into yourself.  Only you would know then. From there you can develop receptivity/attunement to your environment and what you take in. When I did a water fast, around the second day I moved to ketosis and in addition to spending less energy on digestion, needed much less sleep. I broke the fourth day when these chefs offered some great food for free at a raw bar. Just take things slow... then slower, slower than you think and you'll be great.

I tried the water diet for 2 days then I stopped, I have a question!!! If i go passed 2 days ago will I be functioning enough to go to work 9-5?

Of course I am not questioning the raw mother's milk for babies. The issues are with diary milk and the animal protein of it that is really an unnecessary supplement once you are over 3 years of age. In fact it causes significantly more harm than benefits.

I will dig out the researches from my archives with regards to that.

As soon as I get my driver's license renewal (hopefully today since I have the ophthalmologist's medical certificate in hand), I will drive south 1 hour to a "Benedict Monastery" where I've been told I can buy raw cow and goat's milk. The cows are Holstein so I will probably not take the cow's milk. I will also explain to them why Holstein cows are bad and encourage them to add a native cow or other breed. I ate some locally produced goat's feta cheese this week for the first time in my life and didn't notice any adverse reaction. I presume it was pasteurized.

Yes I will make it myself and try to make it from raw goat's milk. I located two sellers of Kefir cultures in Manila who ship.


Tangential note: just because klee's symptoms aren't acutely correlated to gut pain as mine are, doesn't mean that diet (and lifestyle) isn't the cause. In my case, I need to be much better about being on the computer only 8 hours daily and outside doing activity some of the day. I am not saying I know what is best for him, but it bothers me when people assume that ketogenesis is helpful and they provide absolutely no evidence of that (only some gibberish theories about metabolism). Yet I provide evidence that ketogenesis has not shown any statistical evidence of being helpful for M.S.. It is not logical to tell me that because I don't have lab confirmed M.S. and gut dysbiosis, thus none of what I say or am experimenting applies.

Yes, that was my understanding, that the saturated fat is a real issue with coconut.

Terms of olive oil (avoiding it helped me a lot with my heart condition regardless of the myth of Mediterranean diet which is nothing else just the large amount of vegetables compensates the negative effect of olive oil), I would like you check this out and please take the content into consideration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbALgjmZUek

My understanding is that the chemical content and the end result of olive oil is pretty much same as consuming plain sugar. There are some advance chemical analyses that pretty much came to the same conclusion as this popular video.

And perhaps this could be interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGQxJLuVjg



That's probably a good idea and that should help.

Take care of yourself :-))) we would like to read your posts a lot longer.

Can you get raw milk kafir? I'd guess most packaged products are going to be heavily processed. In my area it is somewhat hard to find even unsweetened kafir or yogurt. Stores devote very little shelf space if they carry it at all, and often run out. Less true of those catering to eastern europeans.

If you think this stuff is important you should probably make your own.

Pasteurized milk no doubt. Probably those Frankenstein A2 casein Holstein cows from the Netherlands. Please find research on those consuming raw milk with all the enzymes and good bacteria that are destroyed by pasteurization and the thousand year old breeds which were not genetically modified to be A2 casein. The author of gutcritters.com attributes his cure for his gut dysbiosis to consuming raw milk.

Also the process of fermenting removes the lactose and converts the milk into a healthier probiotic.

The enzymes and the properties of milk can help to form the mucus lining on the inside of the intestines. Babies have no immunity and they get all this from the enzymes in the raw mother's milk.

How can you possibly draw conclusions from a study that has an entirely different food?

Also I learned that it is A2 casein which is causing many of the problems with milk (in addiction to those who are lactose intolerant and also the fact that milk is pasteurized which makes it poison), and goat's milk is always A1 casein.

Really you need to more fine tune your research before you jump to such statements.

Your response?

I agree with everything you wrote. I even question the coconut and some days I haven't eaten it as I am trying to experiment to find out what works and what doesn't. One potential benefit of the coconut is the acids may be effective in correcting gut dysbiosis. Also if you are thinking that the saturated fat in coconut is bad for the heart, the opposite is true. Only coconut and olive oil are healthy oils for your heart and in general. But even so, I question my intake of coconut meat as a significant portion of diet and have not done that every day.

For the moment, I am more focused on getting my LIVING probiotics right, because of my case history and symptoms, I have a strong reason to implicate potential issues with my gut microflora. Also Kefir is known to be very good for even healthy individuals, so it is doesn't hurt to prioritize that.

My priority at the moment is trying to find a balance of nutrition and energy from a balanced diet that can hopefully stabilize my worsening symptoms (eyes and voice the worst lately) and allow me to work normally.

If anything the fasting enabled me to refocus away from land based meats toward fish, which I feel is the correct way to go.

That would be a huge mistake IMHO. All sensible researches - like the one that is about of life stock taken away from Norway in the 1940s on and many other researches - indicate that dairy products really bad for you even if you are healthy. Having MS and consuming dairy products is really not a good idea.

Well we can see who goes to extremes and thus needs a psychiatrist.

Can you fucking read:


I told you already that my case history is that from the time I arrived in Mindanao in 1994, I had dysentery and amoebas nearly ever week in the 1990s, then a series of gut infections over the years from 2006 forward, culminating in two severe gut infections clustered closely at the end of 2011 and Spring 2012, which precipitated being rushed in an ambulance to ER in May 2012 for an exploded acute peptic ulcer which was leaking acid into my abdomen thus causing my internal organs to tear and bloating my mid torso. I was in ICU and they were not sure if they would need to do surgery. That was the most pain I had ever experienced in my entire life.

That gut dysbiosis was surely caused by repetitive uses of antibiotics to treat those routine gut infections. Since the doctors found h.pylori in my stool, they again prescribed more antibiotics to the tune 6000 mg per day for 21 days (because the first 7 days I had to change to remove the Clarithromycin which screwed up my sense of smell so bad that I would puke even from the smell of a car exhaust). From that I got a severe fungal infection in my pelvic area which I assume was my bladder or colon. My doctor was nonchalant, said I looked stressed when I described the fungal infection symptoms, and never did he recommend stool tests nor a colonoscopy (it was about then that I completely gave up on him!). I had a lot of pain throughout my abdomen area for months I presume because I was scarred from the affair, which included for example taking PPIs which are known to be a factor correlated with chronic gut dysbiosis.

In November 2012, I proceded to the best hospital in Cebu (thinking it is more modern and more foreigners than Davao) and asked them to give me all the diagnostics they could. For example, the blood work showed my lymphocytes sky high. For example they confirmed I was negative for Syphilis, Clamydia, HIV, and other STDs they could test for (HPV not being one they could test for and one I had acquired in 2006 and unknown if ever fully cleared). The remainder of the tests had to be sent out to a lab in Manila, so they took my email address, phone number, and address so they could forward the results to me. They gave me their phone number for follow up. I never did receive any communication. I called but no one can help me. Typical for the Philippines, you totally waste your money because even if you do get a result, you can't even be sure you can trust the result you get. So what is the point of paying for diagnostics when you are not even sure the information you are getting is reliable???

Come on Mr. Know It All? Pray enlighten me fool.

As I told you, when I was in the office of my doctor who treated me for the acute peptic ulcer, I met a younger foreigner who was continually on morphine because my doctor had done a surgery on him to remove part of his digestive tract and sew together what remains. I believe it is referred to as a "j pop". Any way, the young guy (30s?) was clearly in such pain and years hence from the surgery he will never be painless again. It reminded me of how I could still see in my right eye after the incident where my eye was gouged with a hard object, but the surgeon in the Philippines managed to 100% detach the retina and destroy the eye. I had to return to the USA to one of the best eye surgeons in the country (whom I paid in excess of $100,000 in cash) to save my eyeball and reattach some of the retina (but lost 95% of the vision). So I asked the young guy, why did he operate in the Philippines and not back in the USA. He said lack of funds. There is no way I would operate in the Philippines again. I would at least hop over to Singapore or Australia.

So do you think I am going to trust a filipino doctor to stick a scope up my anus into my colon?!! Hell no! Not easily. I did recently get the names of some Gastroenteritis doctors at the same small brand new private hospital where I recently got my eye checkup. I am going to make an appointment to talk to them and detect whether I have found someone who I trust. Which is not likely, because I know very well the attitude the filipino doctors. Also I've told you that some of the tests are not available in Davao, e.g. I checked numerous hospital labs and none had e.coli nor salmonella stool tests.

So now what are the odds that my condition given the case history is not related to my gut? And what are the odds that the symptoms I have described are not M.S.?

And why do you think just because I am suffering in poverty that makes me insane because I have to juggle my priorities in terms of what I can and can't do at this time. And thus my treatment options follow accordingly.

You have demonstrated over the past few days how much of an indolent asshole you can be. Good riddance.


Which describes exactly what I am doing with diet (which isn't ketogenesis nor fasting idiots):


Ketogenesis and fasting are perhaps effective for cancer, because you are trying to starve the cancer. But starving the body of nutrients is generally not a good idea for most health issues.

No matter what an official diagnosis would say, that wouldn't change one iota the diet treatment I am pursuing. So what is your point?

Instead I am pointing out to you that you may be harming yourself by prioritizing ketogenesis and not Kefir. My next priority is Kefir because as I documented up thread yesterday, Kefir is a more diverse probiotic than Komucha (and the Yakult I am drinking has too much glucose and only provides one bacterium). You are barking up the wrong tree with ketogenesis focus, wherein up thread I even cited for you that Terry Wahls finds no statistical advantage for ketogenic diets from her clinical trials. Also nuts and legumes are hard on the gut because of the anti-nutrients, so I asked WTF were you doing eating nuts and coffee for breakfast. And yet you call me insane  

The much more likely area of causation is microflora yet you are too lazy to go make some Kefir and then you call me insane  

Dude you are one fine example of calling the kettle black.

George Soros is a piece of dog shit, and he now has his black beady little eyes set on Europe.
 
Looks like he sees an opportunity there to fuck the place up even more.

he is indeed a "dreg of humanity"  

http://humanevents.com/2011/04/02/top-10-reasons-george-soros-is-dangerous/

So the guy has spent his whole life capitalizing on tax loopholes and now he asks for more taxation for people not powerful enough to escape taxes like he did.

Those kind of people are the dregs of humanity. Fuck you, Soros.

While Soros' proposal does indeed appear very unfair to many who are already working hard for crap money, I find the highlighted remark rather disappointing. I generally don't have a problem with any individual asylum seeker / refugee / migrant; the majority are most likely people like you and me, but are enduring miserable times and are trying to escape danger or improve their personal prospects; a perfectly understandable impulse from their perspective - in microcosm. It's more the scenario in macrocosm that concerns me: the complex consequences that are likely to unfold if Soros' plans were put into action. Oh, and he neglected to add of course just how many rooms he would be offering in his own household.

It's the least two educated people could do while having a discussion - no matter if they agreed or not.


I've been reading a related paper a couple of years ago concerning the benefits of "good state of mind while eating your lunch" towards producing better health to people. It was based on a survey that was first farm animal-related (and later moved on to humans). The outcome was pretty obscure, but more or less claimed that some specific toxins were produced when the subject was on stress. After 10-20 days symptoms were including but not limited to, loss of weight, loss of hair to humans, redskin syndromes etc. to more than 20% of the people.

Maybe, things we tend to ignore are the most important in our lives.

I dont even earn that much / year, and i`m working hard, while those dirty immigrants get to earn that for free is not very fair.

From an article by George Soros called "Rebuilding the Asylum System"

http://www.project-syndicate.org/print/rebuilding-refugee-asylum-system-by-george-soros-2015-09

"...First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. And, to do that, it must share the burden fairly – a principle that a qualified majority finally established at last Wednesday’s summit.

Adequate financing is critical. The EU should provide €15,000 ($16,800) per asylum-seeker for each of the first two years to help cover housing, health care, and education costs – and to make accepting refugees more appealing to member states. It can raise these funds by issuing long-term bonds using its largely untapped AAA borrowing capacity, which will have the added benefit of providing a justified fiscal stimulus to the European economy.

It is equally important to allow both states and asylum-seekers to express their preferences, using the least possible coercion. Placing refugees where they want to go – and where they are wanted – is a sine qua non of success.

The EU would need to make an annual commitment to frontline countries of at least €8-10 billion, with the balance coming from the United States and the rest of the world...."


And for all this time I'd never credited him with having a sense of humour!

more food for thought  

http://www.bookoflove.info/2LoveEverythingyoueatanddrink.html

"Eating & Drinking without Love ...
Every time you eat and drink - without loving what you eat and drink - is like being married to someone you don't love ..."

related: Lipton, Bruce. The Biology of Belief. [synopsis: http://davidpratt.info/lipton.htm ]

Yeah, I am worried about TPTB_need_war as well because I think - and I said it - he doesn't do the correct things terms of diet.

Terms of scientists, I am having the good fortune to work with them in many EU funded scientific IT/software projects since the EU rolled out those frameworks 15 years ago. Those projects most of the time require private companies' input so we can often get into such research projects. Of course I have nothing against scientists, innovation nor solving problems with scientific methods. My rant was mainly related with the large pharmaceutical companies by spreading their bullshit via doctors and scientists and how they destroy lives by pushing their expensive medicines in cases when simple diet measures could solve the issue.
Of course I understand medicine is a must and save lives in many cases such as AIDS, or illnesses when antibiotic medication is the only solution and many other. My issue is that diabetes, high blood pressure and heart issues cost the most for health services (and consequently bring most profit for the pharmaceuticals), and those medical conditions could be solved with a proper diet, but the public is kept in dark with regards to that simple solution.

It's great we could keep this conversation civil, and again have a good work, it's great if you enjoy working with your projects.

1. Never did, never will take ANY comment that I read on the net personally. There are often many misunderstandings; that's more of a canon than the exception.

2. I agree. In fact the method I proposed has no medicine at all. My objection was that it's not fully tested and we don't know if it works. I was worried about TPTB_need_war, because (IMHO) he overdid it!

3. Doing a research is like being in love... I have another job, but being into the university for 2 decades now, I try to help as many people as I can - anyway I can. No money involved. I have managed to save some up until now. Let's hope the number will go up.

Thanks.