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November 18, 2023, 06:26:15 AM
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I have also been thinking about why the general public see's gambling as a negative engagement and I have to be sincere, some gamblers made the public see gambling as a negative engagement and as such do not want to get anything doing with gambling or gamblers because they always have that thought that gamblers would not have financial integrity and as a result of lacking in it, they tend to use any funds kept under their care.
This scenario happened in my neighbourhood in the past where funds contributed by a group of cooperative for a particular purpose and was given to their very own secretary to deliver but he used the money for gambling and when it became obvious that the person to receive the money started wondering why the delay and met with him to inquire to know why he has not been given the money upon meeting him, he then opened up and  pleaded to not say it and promised to give him the money as soon as he is paid his salary and to cover it up so that nobody would know. After that time passed later on the both of them had issues that was when we heard all these stories of him being a gambler and how he used the money given to him for gambling.
You see all these things puts bad image on gamblers when some are just not matured to control themselves and gamble responsibly.
That is why most times I do not get entangled with the societies View about gamblers because most gamblers are just too careless and act childishly.

In my opinion, the person you told me about who was one of the suspects in the misuse of donation money for gambling, I think he was very severe in his gambling involvement, it seems that he has entered a fairly high level of addiction, so he is very brave to take actions that are out of control like that. As we know that someone who is already addicted they will do anything as long as they can get money just to realize their gambling desires, one example of a case like the one you told. Therefore we must be more careful in gambling activities, the first thing to pay attention to is in terms of risk not victory, yes I understand that there is a chance of winning but it is not entirely and you must be able to consider logically because the casino will not be that easy to give victory.

On a good stand casinos do not easily give Victory neither do they give wins that easy to gamblers. They too try every possible best to retain funds from gamblers through any means because they are a business venture and at all cost would want to have it all themselves so they could make much profit and run their casino.

Of course it's obvious and as I've said before, the logical question is who would give them money for free? You should not be fooled by the system in the casino, the winnings are nothing more than a temptation to keep you coming back to play there, that is a true fact and only a few gamblers understand and know this, therefore as we know that there are still very many people who suffer from losing large amounts of money, for no other reason than as I said above that they do not know and do not understand the real casino rules. Yes gambling is not a place for anyone to make money, casinos will not allow that, because obviously this is a business with huge profits for them and gamblers have misunderstood what the opportunities are there. The logic and fact is that casinos will only give away maybe 20% of their 100% turnover at any given time, so it's clear that the real winner is the casino itself, so there's really no reason for anyone to go overboard just to win. Therefore, if you want to get rich from gambling, the only way is to create your own casino, not begging for consistent winnings because that's impossible in my opinion.

Considering the risk involved too can make a gambler cautious of his or her gambling activities. The probability of winning or losing is just a scale to be weighed by the gambler before they engage but it seems they are hell bent on gambling without checking the modalities and chances of their gambling outcome as they are possibly addicted to the course.

I think gambling will only be dangerous for those who come with the wrong assumptions and mindset, such as for example looking for income, it is really not recommended. And for those who gamble just for entertainment and spare time, I think things that are not wanted are very small chances to happen because on the other hand they are not too serious in gambling and also usually will only put a small budget amount. They already know the level of risk that can occur so I think they will definitely not do things out of control. So the point is only they themselves know whether the activity is dangerous for themselves or not, gambling will only have a fairly positive impact on those who come for entertainment, and vice versa if they come to earn then I think everyone already knows what will happen to him. So the bottom line is the decision on your judgment alone will be able to determine the impact of gambling.
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November 18, 2023, 06:22:41 AM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
When someone wins a large amount in gambling he hides it from his friends because everyone knows that it is very easy to earn in gambling without any hard work if one is lucky and that is why if a friend hears that another friend has won a large amount in gambling then that  He may ask for money as a loan or for any other reason. Everyone tries to hide this fear. I don't know this more clearly because I have never been in such a situation and my friends have never done anything like that to me.
This is a simple logic we have to understand if we do it with a pure mindset not for greed. There are many people who had won big bets and end up spending the money carelessly without using the fund to do something better. There are many reasons that can make a person which is potential gamblers to stay out from friends after winning big amount of money. Sometimes when we noice that we are fake friends all around us, it is better for us to stay away from bad influence that would make us look like they care about us but it's not so.
The entire story is a dilemma to apprehend that the friends he (the winner) has been with for an expanded period of time now emerge to be fake friends just immediately as he won the huge sum of money, something he never realized when he hasn't won the money. Or am I the only one thinking in this direction!

It could be that he is the real fake friend that was pretending to be in the company of  those other friends and his true nature got ignited by the money he won. No amount of money I win as a gambler will make me draw away from my friends correlating with them doesn't mean an going to carelessly spend my money or lend them by compulsion.
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November 17, 2023, 08:32:10 PM
Simple thing, the person who had won big doesn't want to share or give little to his friends. If he keeps distance the friends also won't get an opportunity to request him for financial help. Money changes the minds of people and what we had seen is just an example. Someday he'll realise there is much more things that are more important than money.

That's right, that's what I saw and noticed, and I think most people here on this forum also know that. It's just sad that, because of money, he rejected or distanced himself from people who might consider you a friend.

That's why this is a reality that happens in real life. That's why there are only two types of people: those who control the money and those who are controlled by the money. We know that when we control the money, the end result will always be a bad one.
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November 17, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
Simple thing, the person who had won big doesn't want to share or give little to his friends. If he keeps distance the friends also won't get an opportunity to request him for financial help. Money changes the minds of people and what we had seen is just an example. Someday he'll realise there is much more things that are more important than money.
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November 17, 2023, 07:57:03 PM

This makes me to remember the saying that says "when there is a will there is a way" of a gambler who is willing to stop their addiction will always seek for ways to do so and as a result of efforts they have put in sourcing for ways to minimise their gambling lifestyle which had lead them to addiction, they would definitely take it seriously and put efforts to making sure they have their ways in reducing their addiction to gambling but when forced to do so, I think the will would not be there because their mind is not made up yet to quit gambling addiction.

As for getting a confidant well trusted to keep secrets, it's not a bad idea because everyone has that one person they can confine in to reveal things to and as you have said, if one wants to share with their confidant their gambling lifestyle, it is not bad but at least that person should be able to proffer a solution or advise that could help their friend to minimise or entirely stop from gambling as the case may be. I think these are or should be amongst the quality of a confidant one should choose.

Of a truth most societies sees gambling as a negative engagement and as such frowns at it and forbids their families and citizens from gambling. Some societies go a long way to restrict their citizens from gambling as well. This is to show you the height at which many frowns at gambling and they go a long way to put measures restricting members of their families and the society from doing such. Even some casinos do make a list of restricted nations on their Terms of Service so that anybody registering from those nations would know that their countries do not support gambling and if they go ahead doing such,they are likely to forfeit any deposit made and account blocked upon discovering it.

The gambler who want to quit the addiction from the gambling can do this way of the quit from the gambling sites with the big win to the gambling site.The most of the gambler who had sufficient knowledge in the gambling will know the exact time of quitting the addiction.The gambler who ready to undrstand the winning possibility in the gambling will also understand the losing possibilities in the gambling sites.Most of the time the gambler was forced to stop the gambling with zero dollars.The reason for this was the over confidence of the gambler after their continuous win to the gambling site.But he forgot to learn the fact the coin had two sides and the game had two way of win and loss in the gambling site.
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November 17, 2023, 05:56:38 PM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
When someone wins a large amount in gambling he hides it from his friends because everyone knows that it is very easy to earn in gambling without any hard work if one is lucky and that is why if a friend hears that another friend has won a large amount in gambling then that  He may ask for money as a loan or for any other reason. Everyone tries to hide this fear. I don't know this more clearly because I have never been in such a situation and my friends have never done anything like that to me.
This is a simple logic we have to understand if we do it with a pure mindset not for greed. There are many people who had won big bets and end up spending the money carelessly without using the fund to do something better. There are many reasons that can make a person which is potential gamblers to stay out from friends after winning big amount of money. Sometimes when we noice that we are fake friends all around us, it is better for us to stay away from bad influence that would make us look like they care about us but it's not so.
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November 17, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
When someone wins a large amount in gambling he hides it from his friends because everyone knows that it is very easy to earn in gambling without any hard work if one is lucky and that is why if a friend hears that another friend has won a large amount in gambling then that  He may ask for money as a loan or for any other reason. Everyone tries to hide this fear. I don't know this more clearly because I have never been in such a situation and my friends have never done anything like that to me.

Such factor counts, as there are people who will come around and will try not just to barrow but to ask for money as a gift, there are types of people even we are calling them a friend but the intention is to gain from us, not sure if what's the real reason behind but your assessment got that valid point,

avoiding or keeping away from people who will try to seek money, whatever the reason they will use just to get some share from that winning rewards.
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November 17, 2023, 08:53:39 AM
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I have also been thinking about why the general public see's gambling as a negative engagement and I have to be sincere, some gamblers made the public see gambling as a negative engagement and as such do not want to get anything doing with gambling or gamblers because they always have that thought that gamblers would not have financial integrity and as a result of lacking in it, they tend to use any funds kept under their care.
This scenario happened in my neighbourhood in the past where funds contributed by a group of cooperative for a particular purpose and was given to their very own secretary to deliver but he used the money for gambling and when it became obvious that the person to receive the money started wondering why the delay and met with him to inquire to know why he has not been given the money upon meeting him, he then opened up and  pleaded to not say it and promised to give him the money as soon as he is paid his salary and to cover it up so that nobody would know. After that time passed later on the both of them had issues that was when we heard all these stories of him being a gambler and how he used the money given to him for gambling.
You see all these things puts bad image on gamblers when some are just not matured to control themselves and gamble responsibly.
That is why most times I do not get entangled with the societies View about gamblers because most gamblers are just too careless and act childishly.

In my opinion, the person you told me about who was one of the suspects in the misuse of donation money for gambling, I think he was very severe in his gambling involvement, it seems that he has entered a fairly high level of addiction, so he is very brave to take actions that are out of control like that. As we know that someone who is already addicted they will do anything as long as they can get money just to realize their gambling desires, one example of a case like the one you told. Therefore we must be more careful in gambling activities, the first thing to pay attention to is in terms of risk not victory, yes I understand that there is a chance of winning but it is not entirely and you must be able to consider logically because the casino will not be that easy to give victory.

On a good stand casinos do not easily give Victory neither do they give wins that easy to gamblers. They too try every possible best to retain funds from gamblers through any means because they are a business venture and at all cost would want to have it all themselves so they could make much profit and run their casino.

Considering the risk involved too can make a gambler cautious of his or her gambling activities. The probability of winning or losing is just a scale to be weighed by the gambler before they engage but it seems they are hell bent on gambling without checking the modalities and chances of their gambling outcome as they are possibly addicted to the course.
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November 17, 2023, 08:02:33 AM
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I have also been thinking about why the general public see's gambling as a negative engagement and I have to be sincere, some gamblers made the public see gambling as a negative engagement and as such do not want to get anything doing with gambling or gamblers because they always have that thought that gamblers would not have financial integrity and as a result of lacking in it, they tend to use any funds kept under their care.
This scenario happened in my neighbourhood in the past where funds contributed by a group of cooperative for a particular purpose and was given to their very own secretary to deliver but he used the money for gambling and when it became obvious that the person to receive the money started wondering why the delay and met with him to inquire to know why he has not been given the money upon meeting him, he then opened up and  pleaded to not say it and promised to give him the money as soon as he is paid his salary and to cover it up so that nobody would know. After that time passed later on the both of them had issues that was when we heard all these stories of him being a gambler and how he used the money given to him for gambling.
You see all these things puts bad image on gamblers when some are just not matured to control themselves and gamble responsibly.
That is why most times I do not get entangled with the societies View about gamblers because most gamblers are just too careless and act childishly.

None other than because the impact of gambling is very bad which can really make a person lose balance in terms of his economy, especially his finances, and also on the other hand there are very many examples of those who experience such a downturn, on the other hand that is what makes people's perspective on gambling activities very bad, the point is that there are many impacts that will be suffered by people who are too serious and excessive in their gambling involvement, and also yes you have said one of the reasons why people's views are very bad on this activity.

In my opinion, the person you told me about who was one of the suspects in the misuse of donation money for gambling, I think he was very severe in his gambling involvement, it seems that he has entered a fairly high level of addiction, so he is very brave to take actions that are out of control like that. As we know that someone who is already addicted they will do anything as long as they can get money just to realize their gambling desires, one example of a case like the one you told. Therefore we must be more careful in gambling activities, the first thing to pay attention to is in terms of risk not victory, yes I understand that there is a chance of winning but it is not entirely and you must be able to consider logically because the casino will not be that easy to give victory.
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November 17, 2023, 05:08:47 AM
don't want to blame the person, i might be like that too if i win big. maybe people will see it as quite strange and think that this is unacceptable, but i think differently, because usually people do that to avoid other problems, for example a friend suddenly comes and wants to borrow money from him or his friends want to ask for a big meal, and other problems. so to avoid such problems, he prefers to avoid his friends and that's not wrong because that's his choice.
How exactly is a friend asking you to borrow him some money a big problem when you have the money? Or how is your friends asking you to take them out for a big meal as a celebration for your big winning a problem?

I honest do not get it, it is better to keep quiet and not announce your big winning to your friends, than do so and later on start avoiding them for no just cause, this simply means that you  were never a friend to those you call your friends, for friends are supposed to stick with each other, help each other, when one become a millionaire and his friend is still struggling to each, he that became a millionaires helps the one struggling to eat to also become a millionaire, this is what true friend do, not avoid his friends when he has made money.
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November 17, 2023, 04:58:33 AM
don't want to blame the person, i might be like that too if i win big. maybe people will see it as quite strange and think that this is unacceptable, but i think differently, because usually people do that to avoid other problems, for example a friend suddenly comes and wants to borrow money from him or his friends want to ask for a big meal, and other problems. so to avoid such problems, he prefers to avoid his friends and that's not wrong because that's his choice.
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November 17, 2023, 04:21:49 AM
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Yes, basically conditions like this are indeed quite confusing for someone who has just won, between they have to fulfill their personal needs with the money they won or maybe they will celebrate their victory with their friends with the risk that the money will definitely run out quickly. I'm sure if I were in that condition then I would also be quite confused in choosing a decision, on the other hand I need the money but on the other hand I also don't want to lose my friends. But I think the middle way in this problem is like for example they talk to their friends that they have a very important need and what they can do is maybe just share their friends a few percent of the winnings and not choose to party because it will definitely be very wasteful. I think that's a pretty good solution for a balance, and also yes hopefully some of their friends will understand the situation you're in at the time.

Yes, if you really don't want to be complicated with problems like that then it's better from the start you don't tell them anything, and don't take actions that can make them suspicious of you. Basically good friends are those who can understand and appreciate each other, I'm sure their friends won't be that bad even though they have pretty bad habits, at least maybe they will be able to understand about your situation at that time.
I also prefer to tell my friends the truth so they know that I have interests to fulfill with that money. I know they will definitely be disappointed, but as good friends, they will also definitely support me at times like that because they also have needs that must be met, like mine. And the solution you gave by sharing a few percent of the winnings with friends to celebrate their victory is good enough because we have told them about our problems, but we also give a little to our friends so they can celebrate. I think they might feel uncomfortable accepting our gift because we have been honest with them. Honesty will provide a solution to what we are experiencing so that our friends understand the situation.

Good friends are hard to find, and therefore, we should always be honest with them whatever we are facing so that they can understand the situation and will provide support to us. This also won't be a burden on us because we have explained it to them, and we even gave them a little of the winnings so they can share in the excitement and celebrate together. This is where we can feel the closeness of our friendship with them, and that is difficult to find nowadays.

Hmm yes it seems that it is the best that can be done when we are in such conditions, it is better for us to tell the truth about the truth to them, than we lie and on the other hand later surely at least they will harbor jealousy towards us, and of course it will definitely interfere or become a problem in our friendship. So yes, as I said, maybe the middle way that can be taken is just to tell them honestly about our needs, and as a remedy so that they are not too disappointed, we can give them a little money from our winnings, I'm sure it won't be a big problem if we want to be honest and they also I think they will definitely be able to understand about our condition.

Yes, it is quite difficult to be able to get friends who are truly sincere, sometimes there are also friends who are friends but only need it or just want to benefit from us, and there are also friends who are truly sincere with no strings attached. And on the other hand with money we will usually know human nature, but yes I hope one of your friends is a good and sincere friend who does not ask for anything or in the sense of a true friend as you said.
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November 17, 2023, 01:59:52 AM
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Still, I don’t regard him as a bad friend. But if I were him, I would still remember and find time to spend it with friends, no matter how rich I was. I am sure of this, but we also know that in life sometimes everything happens differently than we are 100% sure of.

He stopped lending probably because this is a fundamental point for him. He just never lends money to anyone. There is a saying: “If you want to quarrel with friends or relatives, then lend them money.” Even I have met people in my life who constantly borrow, this is their lifestyle, I don’t like them, it’s better to avoid them.
sometimes mature thinking is really needed when it comes to dealing with all this and after all he is still your friend who used to gamble with you and dont instill hatred in yourself for him because he is still your friend even though at this time maybe he prefers to avoid you and other friends maybe he have thoughts that you dont know so we have to think positively about your separation from your friend, its not because of money but something better.

and related to what you said in the bottom line, that what I mean because money is everything, you can even lose your family just because of money.

We are people who have been on different occasions living Experiences that have to do with friends, with money and many other things, so in this order of ideas we Are people who must Accept that there are others who are not like us,
more precisely, we all have different thoughts and plans so that whatever happens, he remains a friend who we cannot judge just because of the money from gambling winnings.
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November 16, 2023, 06:25:10 PM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
When someone wins a large amount in gambling he hides it from his friends because everyone knows that it is very easy to earn in gambling without any hard work if one is lucky and that is why if a friend hears that another friend has won a large amount in gambling then that  He may ask for money as a loan or for any other reason. Everyone tries to hide this fear. I don't know this more clearly because I have never been in such a situation and my friends have never done anything like that to me.
You havent experience because you havent been able to win up bigtime but on the situation on which you are already that making that huge win then for sure you would really be having that kind of situation and thinking that your friends would really be asking some bonus or would really be taking up some loan just because of the situation you are in on which winning up a huge amount?
This would really be the nearest reason on why someone would really be doing their best on trying to hide from their friends or even into their family just on having that fear with those
winnings to be that reduced. lol. That kind of thinking is really that a selfish one but well its our money then you do have the rights on what you should gonna do but of course
once you do dump your friends then there's no way for you to go back yet they would really be having that bad impression of you for the rest of their lives.
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November 16, 2023, 06:03:45 PM
I know the same example when one of my friends got rich and stopped communicating with me, although before that everything was very good, we had fun, we often met together. But after a lot of money, he developed new interests, he began to spend time in different countries with his family, and now I hardly see him. Many tried to borrow money from him, but he did not lend money to anyone. Sometimes bad thoughts come to me that if big money hadn’t fallen from the sky on him, we would have continued to get along well, communicate, and meet. But on the other hand, I’m happy for him and I won’t wish him anything bad, let him do as he wants.
I not defend anyone, but what your friend did might be seen as a bad friend because he distanced himself from his friend when he was already successful in becoming rich, but on the one hand, you shoul not judge him by wishing him bad luck or thinking bad things about him because we dont know what his intentions were. what he was doing when he refused to give a loan to another friend.

for example, I once had a big win, actually I had hidden it from other people, but a friend found out about the win I got and spread it to other friends and they came to borrow money from me and I refused to give him the loan. I am not someone who is stingy, but I have good intentions because even if I give him a loan, whatever the amount, it will not rule out the possibility that he will stop borrowing and will not be satisfied with the money I lend him. because someone who often borrows will continue to expect help from other people and will not be satisfied with whatever amount it is and someone who often borrows money should be grateful to his friend who refused his loan because it has saved his life from the bad habit of looking for loans and just to gamble, which is very bad.
Still, I don’t regard him as a bad friend. But if I were him, I would still remember and find time to spend it with friends, no matter how rich I was. I am sure of this, but we also know that in life sometimes everything happens differently than we are 100% sure of.

He stopped lending probably because this is a fundamental point for him. He just never lends money to anyone. There is a saying: “If you want to quarrel with friends or relatives, then lend them money.” Even I have met people in my life who constantly borrow, this is their lifestyle, I don’t like them, it’s better to avoid them.

We are people who have been on different occasions living Experiences that have to do with friends, with money and many other things, so in this order of ideas we Are people who must Accept that there are others who are not like us, that there are people who Only They seek the benefit of themselves through us, in fact, the world is full of those people who have those characteristics, we cannot do Anything about that, because we are the ones who have to put everything of us not to be like that, to make a Difference , money, money is one of the things for which many friendships no longer exist, and it is as you say, there are people who stop talking to each other Because of money , When they They lend money, or when they do business in partnership, it is something that I do not like to accept, because I know that it is for Problems , so when we Accept someone's friendship we have to see what the person is like, try to meet people to see until point we can trust.

My friends are very few, because I know that they are real Friends, Loyal that one costs with them for whatever, wherever they are, they are Going to Arrive and that is what we are going to see , and the best thing is that they will not care money, because there are values that are above money, where they will obviously have the option of having things in their favor, sometimes smiaogs are much more valuable than money itself, because they are People who can help in an unexpected way , and that It is what should be valued, I am one of those who think that a friend is difficult to find, and when we are in a casino we can get friends, yes, but they are more Focused on that , because the Activity we are generating is what that we can share in common with it, it's like work ,Coworkers are usually friends, but some tend to be more Treacherous than others, we must take care of that.
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November 16, 2023, 12:43:38 PM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
When someone wins a large amount in gambling he hides it from his friends because everyone knows that it is very easy to earn in gambling without any hard work if one is lucky and that is why if a friend hears that another friend has won a large amount in gambling then that  He may ask for money as a loan or for any other reason. Everyone tries to hide this fear. I don't know this more clearly because I have never been in such a situation and my friends have never done anything like that to me.
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November 16, 2023, 12:33:54 PM
Usually there are certain factors that make a gambler avoid his friend after getting a big win, maybe one of them is that if he doesn't immediately avoid it then his friend will ask him for a loan or maybe his friend will tell him to come back to the game and increase the amount of bets with these funds, so that Like it or not, he was forced to decide to avoid it because he didn't want to suffer a loss.

That’s not an excuse to avoid friends after winning a big amount of money. If the winner is really a good friend, what he should do after winning that amount of money is to call his friends and give them some certain amount of money. I'm sure if he settles with them, they won’t be disturbing him for money or asking him for a loan. Maybe the winner was collecting money from his friends even before winning, and then after winning, his friends are no longer useful to him, some people just do crazy things just because of money.
 
You said his friends might ask him to gamble with the win so that it can be increased, but I hope you know nobody can ask the winner to gamble if he doesn’t want to gamble. No matter how his friends force him, he will never gamble, and if his friends are really reasonable, they won’t even ask the winner to keep on gambling to increase his win.

We often encounter things like this among gamblers and they certainly have certain reasons why they choose to stay away from their friends after winning.

You don’t have any reason to avoid your friends after winning a large amount of money, what I believe you should do is just give them some money for them to take care of themselves, and you will be free. If you are avoiding them when you have money, who will you go back to after finishing the money? How will you avoid them when you are rich, and you will want to go back to them when you are broke, they won’t even accept you back because they will see you as an irresponsible person.
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November 16, 2023, 12:00:51 PM
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Yes, basically conditions like this are indeed quite confusing for someone who has just won, between they have to fulfill their personal needs with the money they won or maybe they will celebrate their victory with their friends with the risk that the money will definitely run out quickly. I'm sure if I were in that condition then I would also be quite confused in choosing a decision, on the other hand I need the money but on the other hand I also don't want to lose my friends. But I think the middle way in this problem is like for example they talk to their friends that they have a very important need and what they can do is maybe just share their friends a few percent of the winnings and not choose to party because it will definitely be very wasteful. I think that's a pretty good solution for a balance, and also yes hopefully some of their friends will understand the situation you're in at the time.

Yes, if you really don't want to be complicated with problems like that then it's better from the start you don't tell them anything, and don't take actions that can make them suspicious of you. Basically good friends are those who can understand and appreciate each other, I'm sure their friends won't be that bad even though they have pretty bad habits, at least maybe they will be able to understand about your situation at that time.
I also prefer to tell my friends the truth so they know that I have interests to fulfill with that money. I know they will definitely be disappointed, but as good friends, they will also definitely support me at times like that because they also have needs that must be met, like mine. And the solution you gave by sharing a few percent of the winnings with friends to celebrate their victory is good enough because we have told them about our problems, but we also give a little to our friends so they can celebrate. I think they might feel uncomfortable accepting our gift because we have been honest with them. Honesty will provide a solution to what we are experiencing so that our friends understand the situation.

Good friends are hard to find, and therefore, we should always be honest with them whatever we are facing so that they can understand the situation and will provide support to us. This also won't be a burden on us because we have explained it to them, and we even gave them a little of the winnings so they can share in the excitement and celebrate together. This is where we can feel the closeness of our friendship with them, and that is difficult to find nowadays.
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November 16, 2023, 10:44:03 AM
After all I finished with my bet headed home and was asking myself what could the colleague act that way avoiding his close friends they all gambling together and just because luck shines on him first he decides to create a distance and class. I couldn't actually annex a good reason why anyone should do that.
That's why it's good we all have to be mindful of the kind of friends we keep, because a true friend can never abandon you no matter how rich he gets, but yet try his position best to ensure he support his friends to become successful in life, because there is a parable we always say in our local language "Na one hand dey wash another" which means the people who you assist today while you are rich, are likely to be the same people that will assist you tomorrow when you are no more financially buoyant. As this thing called Money revolves from one person to another in due time. Hence, we should never neglect people when we are given the opportunity to assist them in times of need.
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November 16, 2023, 10:08:54 AM
On the other hand yes maybe you can tell about your gambling activities to one of your closest people who of course like you said on condition that they must be trusted in order to keep this secret, but on the other hand in my opinion you should not only tell it but also find the best solution to overcome your problems such as trying some actions to reduce or even stop, because after all the best thing is when you can get out of this activity so as not to cause any problems later.

Telling someone about your gambling lifestyle is not bad so far as the person knows how to respect boundaries and keeping secrets as the case maybe between the both of them. If you feel like telling someone about it, then it must be that person you trust enough to keep it to him or herself. However getting out of it, you must be prepared to do it because it wouldn't be that easy as you think it is as it has to do with addiction which has become part of the gambler lifestyle and would need some approach to gradually divert the mind of the gambler to another thing.

Yes, as I said above, as in general, gambling activities are quite negative in the eyes of the community, especially if their environment, including their family, forbids these activities, so with that, of course, if we really want to tell your close friend or for example a family member, then yes, as you also said, make sure that the person is trusted in terms of keeping your activities secret, I hope you choose someone who is not only trusted but on the other hand they can also at least consider giving the right advice on what you should do, because it's useless if you just tell him and tell him to keep it a secret if on the other hand you don't find a way out.

Yes it's true, it is difficult to get out of this gambling activity, especially if you are already quite addicted, but I think it's not impossible, I'm sure everyone can stop or just reduce it as long as there is a strong will and intention, but even so you will still need a long time to be able to stop completely because obviously this is about changing your habits and mindset, and believe me the process will not betray the results.

This makes me to remember the saying that says "when there is a will there is a way" of a gambler who is willing to stop their addiction will always seek for ways to do so and as a result of efforts they have put in sourcing for ways to minimise their gambling lifestyle which had lead them to addiction, they would definitely take it seriously and put efforts to making sure they have their ways in reducing their addiction to gambling but when forced to do so, I think the will would not be there because their mind is not made up yet to quit gambling addiction.

As for getting a confidant well trusted to keep secrets, it's not a bad idea because everyone has that one person they can confine in to reveal things to and as you have said, if one wants to share with their confidant their gambling lifestyle, it is not bad but at least that person should be able to proffer a solution or advise that could help their friend to minimise or entirely stop from gambling as the case may be. I think these are or should be amongst the quality of a confidant one should choose.

Yes, that's a very good saying, basically it's true as you say in that saying, actually there will be no problems that cannot be overcome, all problems must have a way out and maybe it will take enough time to find that way and also with different processes. In my opinion, the problem of gambling addiction will not be too difficult to overcome if indeed the person has a strong will to get out of such activities. By having full awareness that the activity is indeed useless and also encouraged by several actions that I think he will take as a prevention not to overdo it and also as one of the actions to stay away from gambling. Basically yes they will not be easy to stop completely right away and it is clear that on the way to stopping they will definitely have enough difficulty in resisting some of the temptations that tell them to gamble, but I think it doesn't matter because it's only natural that they are still in the adaptation stage.

Yes, usually everyone has people closest to them such as friends or one of their family members as a place where they tell stories for whatever problems they are experiencing, I also have friends like that and it is very useful to help each other in any case. I think if they really have a true friend like that then it will be very likely that their friend will help them.

Of a truth most societies sees gambling as a negative engagement and as such frowns at it and forbids their families and citizens from gambling. Some societies go a long way to restrict their citizens from gambling as well. This is to show you the height at which many frowns at gambling and they go a long way to put measures restricting members of their families and the society from doing such. Even some casinos do make a list of restricted nations on their Terms of Service so that anybody registering from those nations would know that their countries do not support gambling and if they go ahead doing such,they are likely to forfeit any deposit made and account blocked upon discovering it.

Yes, it is clear because the general perspective of society on gambling is like that where they consider gambling to be a negative activity that should be avoided, none other than because the impact of gambling is very bad, therefore as proof a gambler will always hide his gambling activities including from his family, and also as another impact we can see many who are down and experiencing many problems in their lives, especially in their finances. People care about you that's why they forbid you to gamble, and yes it may be true that there are some casinos that restrict some countries from engaging in the activity. The point is you have to know what is best for yourself, don't gamble if you don't want to experience a lot of problems with your finances, look at the many examples of people who have fallen victim to this activity, so all your decisions are your own and I'm sure you know what you should do.

I have also been thinking about why the general public see's gambling as a negative engagement and I have to be sincere, some gamblers made the public see gambling as a negative engagement and as such do not want to get anything doing with gambling or gamblers because they always have that thought that gamblers would not have financial integrity and as a result of lacking in it, they tend to use any funds kept under their care.
This scenario happened in my neighbourhood in the past where funds contributed by a group of cooperative for a particular purpose and was given to their very own secretary to deliver but he used the money for gambling and when it became obvious that the person to receive the money started wondering why the delay and met with him to inquire to know why he has not been given the money upon meeting him, he then opened up and  pleaded to not say it and promised to give him the money as soon as he is paid his salary and to cover it up so that nobody would know. After that time passed later on the both of them had issues that was when we heard all these stories of him being a gambler and how he used the money given to him for gambling.
You see all these things puts bad image on gamblers when some are just not matured to control themselves and gamble responsibly.
That is why most times I do not get entangled with the societies View about gamblers because most gamblers are just too careless and act childishly.
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