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Topic: Giveaway threads are not allowed - page 6. (Read 1044619 times)

newbie
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July 22, 2018, 07:51:55 AM

Don't see why they want this, I mean if peoples don't go out the alt section, where is the problem ?
It's 1 forums against more than 10 others and it's one of the more dynamic ...
All alts are bitcoin (NXT is the exception ?) based, so they are part of bitcoin and they have a spot here. If it's a bitcoin forum here, the bitcoin childrens should be accepted.   Smiley
newbie
Activity: 133
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July 21, 2018, 09:32:03 PM
Giveaway threads is part of this forum but most policy of bounty campaigns are not allowing to post this site, they want to aware of this because their are lot of spammers who hide and many  are not knowing this site.
hero member
Activity: 3080
Merit: 603
July 21, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
I dont have any idea why giveaway threads is not allowed
If you'll read what theymos said you might understand what's its all about.
Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.

maybe it the concepts or the inside story of this discussion may varry a lots of expectations that cannot acceptable to others who are involve i think it is..
I bolded that part for you.
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 10
July 21, 2018, 04:08:34 PM
Currently the topic is only done to advertise and give coins to the community to use and try to create a lot of coin exposure and good feelings when most places just worthless, is very valuable. To do just that for a coin giveaway appears in the right category and related content. I think so.
newbie
Activity: 167
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July 21, 2018, 10:13:18 AM
I dont have any idea why giveaway threads is not allowed, maybe it the concepts or the inside story of this discussion may varry a lots of expectations that cannot acceptable to others who are involve i think it is..
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
July 21, 2018, 04:59:38 AM
This site still has the best source of information, i started out on this forum and giveaway's kept me returning to the forum when i was bored, while on the site i learned about PTS and took interest in mining it at its release, I then learned more returning to the site after having grown a deep interest in crypto currency, it all started through forum giveaway's.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
July 20, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
Seems like a good idea. It was getting out of control and it's encouraging them even more to create and market 1000000 new cryptos that just saturate the market...
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 111
July 20, 2018, 03:25:00 AM
I agree with this, the messages should be substantial, thought out, and interpreted on the topic, that would not clutter up an account with meaningless posts.
member
Activity: 154
Merit: 10
July 20, 2018, 03:03:58 AM
Then about 450 dudes show up pushing their way around, interrupting conversations, yelling at everyone to try their samples. Club owner gets pissed and tells them to take it outside. They can still do it, just not inside the club. Problem solved.
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
July 20, 2018, 02:38:10 AM
Too many topics where been made just to promote and give coins out for people to use and try creating   lot of exposure and good vibes about coins when most where just worthless. If people want to do a give away then at least do that give-away on their own site or a place where it can be done. Maybe make a section up just for coin giveaway to keep stuff in one section and no everywhere.
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 111
July 20, 2018, 01:36:19 AM
So some admins have their own laws when they have look on an airdrop. In our case users have NOT been incentivised to do so and we just asked them to visit our thread (like putting a normal link on a website) and they didn't get anything for visiting or posting. But our thread has been closed and the user who opened it has been locked for 30 days - 3 weeks before our ICO ends. This happend without any warning and nevertheless we respected all rules of the forum here. This methodes are not good and some admins should think about what they are doing to the cryptoworld when acting like governments nowadays (this is the evil of crypto in the sense of bitcoin "over regulation" and "rules" which can't be executed because they are not well formalized and everybody interprets it in a different way ...). But, the real enoying thing is, if you ask, if you write an admin (an especial one) he grants scam but doesn't reply to your messages. That is not ok, that is unproffessional, that is mafia-like - or what do you think?
Which thread are you referring to? If you were ambiguous in asking users "to visit our thread", many users could've misconstrued it as a a requirement to post on it. If a large number of users did so (usually signified by dozens to hundreds of pages of garbage quality posts), the moderator handling the case might interpret it the same way.
it does not matter if the user asks a question to the administrator who misinterprets the topic, and he does not respond. It's ugly, and unprofessional. He should be polite and correct, and bring to the user what he wants to hear.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
July 20, 2018, 12:16:50 AM
Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
sr. member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 340
July 19, 2018, 11:37:16 PM
I'm not sure to get something.
Giveway = airdrop ?
So we can't make an airdrop right now ? Or we have to do it on a bounty topic ?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
July 19, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
Good news. i think its very good for me. Thanks you
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
July 19, 2018, 06:44:05 AM
This is a good decision, it prevents scammers from finding more followers. I will support myself
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 16, 2018, 09:40:12 AM
I simply saw now every one of the strings being shut. I figure it would be decent just to have a giveaways segment so it would make the gathering more clean rather than prohibiting them the same number of us wouldn't become more acquainted with of the considerable number of coins and the giveaways are motivating forces for peeps like me who don't mine to get the word out on our social destinations for the new coins as we never realize what coin will last the entire hoard and it is a touch of fun as well. Simply my 2 bit.
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
July 16, 2018, 02:49:57 AM
I don't generally post in this discussion since it escaped hand with all the crapcoin clones turning out day by day and giveaways spammed all over the place, however I'm not by any means keen on alts in any case, yet I believe there's solitary two alternatives currently: either dispose of the alt coin area by and large or make a different giveaway segment.
hero member
Activity: 1834
Merit: 639
*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
July 14, 2018, 11:44:56 AM
So some admins have their own laws when they have look on an airdrop. In our case users have NOT been incentivised to do so and we just asked them to visit our thread (like putting a normal link on a website) and they didn't get anything for visiting or posting. But our thread has been closed and the user who opened it has been locked for 30 days - 3 weeks before our ICO ends. This happend without any warning and nevertheless we respected all rules of the forum here. This methodes are not good and some admins should think about what they are doing to the cryptoworld when acting like governments nowadays (this is the evil of crypto in the sense of bitcoin "over regulation" and "rules" which can't be executed because they are not well formalized and everybody interprets it in a different way ...). But, the real enoying thing is, if you ask, if you write an admin (an especial one) he grants scam but doesn't reply to your messages. That is not ok, that is unproffessional, that is mafia-like - or what do you think?
Which thread are you referring to? If you were ambiguous in asking users "to visit our thread", many users could've misconstrued it as a a requirement to post on it. If a large number of users did so (usually signified by dozens to hundreds of pages of garbage quality posts), the moderator handling the case might interpret it the same way.

It has not been told them, not directly neither nor in a subtle form. It has been always told that they get nothing if they visit - also our telegram admins told them this when they asked. But misinterpreting leads to misunderstanding and this leads to stress and later then to hate. The misinterpreting guy will never draw back because he might lose his face, this is also the founding of (some) wars.
Which thread / user are you referring to? If they've definitely positively 100% did not incentivize (be it intentionally, accidentally or pretending to be accidentally) posting in one or several threads, I'll unban them.

If you're talking about Avinoc, they had a link to the thread among other airdrop tasks, formatted as an airdrop task and vaguely asking the users to visit and somehow participate in the thread. I don't care if it was "accidental", because over a 113 pages of garbage posts seem to indicate that quite a few users took it as an airdrop task.

So what people interprete and what has been told (maybe accidental, I don't know) are two different things. There was definitely no subtle advise in the task. To be awesome means, visit us and start talking, discuss there too - and it doesn't mean, spam the thread. But if someone starts with that, it might become an avalanche (as happened - so it could be seen accidental when people don't react in time) which makes no sense to the ICO too - because there is no serious discussion possible anymore. Just a counter of posts has no value - so you're right in that.
That's your opinion. I have mine. And my opinion is that this suggestion (formatted in the same way the actually paying airdrop tasks were) to visit the thread and be """awesome""" has been responsible for over a hundred pages of garbage quality content (even if it wasn't garbage quality, that'd still break the giveaway rule since incentivised posting is not allowed) and legitimate threads getting pushed down the board list.

If a user is aware of the forum's rules (which he should be) and understands the severe punishment for running an on-forum altcoin giveaway, he would make sure nobody would mistake his airdrop for an altcoin giveaway.

it's funny trying to take someone like you seriously when you are a willfull spammer with your signature! =)  ~is this a joke?

MODS should be banned from spamming.
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
July 12, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
Seems like a good idea. It was getting out of control and it's encouraging them even more to create and market 1000000 new cryptos that just saturate the market...

Its not just about giveaways, other bounties are shit and keeps running on this forum only to deceive people and later turn out to be scam. Bounties need to be verifie and i think that will really help.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
July 12, 2018, 08:41:13 AM
I concur with the choice, if it's not too much trouble the purpose of the Alt Coin segment of Bitcointalk was so you could have essential discussion about whatever coins you needed here. Things like inside and out coin support and exchange, and giveaways are obviously better off individually particular coin's gathering. Its getting way crazy here, and we felt that simply considering a tad association would help, yet the impacts of boosted posting is spamming the gathering, and its overflowing to whatever is left of the sheets.
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