[GUIDE] B's A More Ethical & Trustworthy Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide

ThePhwner

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Quote from: dogie on September 02, 2015, 10:19:17 AM

Quote from: ThePhwner on September 01, 2015, 07:03:54 PM

Quote from: .....Really? on February 06, 2015, 09:29:49 AM

Why does it not surprise me that BAN (BitcoinAffiliateNetwork) are involved in this?

I opened a scam accusation against them ages ago about their phony "giveaway" of miners to fake user accounts many months ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-giveaway-promotion-scam-to-fake-users-stolen-mining-equipment-782765

After a barrage of insults from s0br/ThePhwner & their multiple aliases, s0br locked the BAN pool thread after deleting evidence & went AWOL from the scam thread & this forum for about 2 months - before popping up again with another BAN pool thread with claims of transparency, bonuses, regular payouts etc, etc, - all of which has proven to be false again.

BTW, guess who advertised BAN on his "trustworthiness guide" thread knowing that they were confirmed scammers? Yup, our good friend poop-dawg........ Roll Eyes

Good thing your many accounts were deleted after proven to be controlled by a single mouthy twat with no evidence:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Pretty sure that's the ultimate in scam accusation threads. And your sorry ass can't even log in to reply any more until you make a 15th account.

Lets be honest here, you were both using shill armies to fight each other, one to promote to BAN, one to damage BAN. The only difference was that he ended up doing other things to get himself permabanned.

Um shill armies? What the fuck are you talking about? I worked for Gil aka s0br. Anyone else did what they did of their own volition. If you're so sure about this why don't you find that proof too. I did admin work and user support for that pool for 6 months and I assure you I was the only one on any sort of payroll doing that. Honestly I thought you were better than to just wing accusations about with no proof, but I guess not.

I'd like to see you prove that we had these "shill armies" you're referring to. You even backed the pool at one point until the attackers were too much. Use the same analysis you did with IYFTech and let's see your proof big boy. Everyone attacking BAN, including you, referred to our "fake" giveaway... yet much evidence was provided the giveaway was real and none provided to show it wasn't.

Believe me, I'm no BAN fan. I quit and not on good terms when I got sick of trying to placate people who were owed money and weren't getting it. I think the way the pool operated starting from late 2014 is completely unacceptable and I'm sure s0br owes people quite a bit of BTC. But there wasn't this "shilling" and "fake giveaway" everyone thinks there was, it was just a shit business model from a guy with too much optimism about mining.

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Quote from: ThePhwner on September 01, 2015, 07:03:54 PM

Quote from: .....Really? on February 06, 2015, 09:29:49 AM

Why does it not surprise me that BAN (BitcoinAffiliateNetwork) are involved in this?

I opened a scam accusation against them ages ago about their phony "giveaway" of miners to fake user accounts many months ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-giveaway-promotion-scam-to-fake-users-stolen-mining-equipment-782765

After a barrage of insults from s0br/ThePhwner & their multiple aliases, s0br locked the BAN pool thread after deleting evidence & went AWOL from the scam thread & this forum for about 2 months - before popping up again with another BAN pool thread with claims of transparency, bonuses, regular payouts etc, etc, - all of which has proven to be false again.

BTW, guess who advertised BAN on his "trustworthiness guide" thread knowing that they were confirmed scammers? Yup, our good friend poop-dawg........ Roll Eyes

Good thing your many accounts were deleted after proven to be controlled by a single mouthy twat with no evidence:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Pretty sure that's the ultimate in scam accusation threads. And your sorry ass can't even log in to reply any more until you make a 15th account.

Lets be honest here, you were both using shill armies to fight each other, one to promote to BAN, one to damage BAN. The only difference was that he ended up doing other things to get himself permabanned.

ThePhwner

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Quote from: .....Really? on February 06, 2015, 09:29:49 AM

Why does it not surprise me that BAN (BitcoinAffiliateNetwork) are involved in this?

I opened a scam accusation against them ages ago about their phony "giveaway" of miners to fake user accounts many months ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-giveaway-promotion-scam-to-fake-users-stolen-mining-equipment-782765

After a barrage of insults from s0br/ThePhwner & their multiple aliases, s0br locked the BAN pool thread after deleting evidence & went AWOL from the scam thread & this forum for about 2 months - before popping up again with another BAN pool thread with claims of transparency, bonuses, regular payouts etc, etc, - all of which has proven to be false again.

BTW, guess who advertised BAN on his "trustworthiness guide" thread knowing that they were confirmed scammers? Yup, our good friend poop-dawg........ Roll Eyes

Good thing your many accounts were deleted after proven to be controlled by a single mouthy twat with no evidence:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064824

Pretty sure that's the ultimate in scam accusation threads. And your sorry ass can't even log in to reply any more until you make a 15th account.

loshia

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That will be first time hopefully I can express my oppinion in bickLEDsky sf moderated thread
I think he is not banned Wink

He just can not live with such trust level and his famous account is abandoned
That is all...
Any way I am not going to miss his posts at all
I said it many times and I will say it again. There is no room for respect in hw section for people who have not touched a miner just once and pretending to be forum goods. He does not have a clue about HW at all. He is free to post his thoughts whatever he wants but in HW section Huh

I am not going to question his "honest" oppinion at all Grin

Forum history is here and every one can look for so called "BickLEDsky" honesty and deep HW knowledge

blarneystone

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Come on guys, everyone knows that having an honest opinion isn't allowed on BCT, it's wrong to call a scam a scam here, especially when certain well known members & moderators are actively promoting them.

As for why he got banned, ask our local spamming mutt & his hairy moderator friend - they've got a hit list as long as your legs Cheesy

This was a good thread, nice to see it revived....... Grin

TheRealSteve

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FUN > ROI

Quote from: Xian01 on August 13, 2015, 07:26:23 AM

Quote from: TheRealSteve on August 13, 2015, 07:20:06 AM

From a few other posts here and there I got the impression that he got banned

Seriously ? For what ?

Bugger if I know. Like I said, though - that's the impression I got from a few posts by others that tended to converse with him more directly; take that for exactly what it means: no hard evidence whatsoever.

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Quote from: TheRealSteve on August 13, 2015, 07:20:06 AM

From a few other posts here and there I got the impression that he got banned

Seriously ? For what ?

TheRealSteve

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From a few other posts here and there I got the impression that he got banned - and may or may not already be back under an alt account. His social media accounts are active enough. It's unfortunate, as he missed out on getting - and reviewing - a Compac... was looking forward to that, actually.. as well as continued updates to this thread; insofar as that applies right now.

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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 10, 2015, 07:48:08 AM

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Bick, did you take long summer vacation ?

Bicknellski

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SFRADS one step closer to it's 'first' miner.

Interesting to see that some samples have made it out to the general public at large. Is it too little too late for this new company? Time will tell.

Quote from: J4bberwock on June 09, 2015, 08:00:16 AM

DHL was fast.

Bicknellski

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Cointerra taking more hits and screwing the pooch yet again!

The mess that some of these companies have made is really staggering. Is it bitcoin or is just amateur hour for most of the mining manufacturing companies?

How many now have screwed the pooch so badly that they have stained mining bitcoin permanently?

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/bad-week-for-bitcoin-miners-c7-data-centers-sues-cointerra-for-5-4-million-in-damages/28666

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UPDATED: 4:19 p.m. EST 1/13/2015 with CoinTerra statement.

NEW YORK (InsideBitcoins) — With the price of bitcoin suffering, it is apparently
not a good time to be a bitcoin miner right now, with CEX.io having to pause its
cloud mining, and now CoinTerra being sued by a data center operator.

The Utah data center, C7 Data Centers, is suing Austin-based CoinTerra for
$5.4 million in damages due to an alleged breach of contract and purported
$1.4 million in unpaid services. According to the document, CoinTerra and
C7 signed an 18-month agreement back in April to provide and manage a
spot within the data center and provide all of its hosting services.

In the law suit, C7 Data Centers said:

“In order to provide services to Cointerra, C7 has requested and obtained
power from Rocky Mountain Power at costs exceeding $12,000.00 per day.
In addition, in order to provide services to CoinTerra, C7 incurred substantial
initial costs and refused services to other potential customers in order to
accommodate CoinTerra’s needs.”

Cointerra's reply:

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In a statement provided to Inside Bitcoins, CoinTerra said:

“CoinTerra, Inc. disputes the allegations in the complaint filed
by C7 Data Centers, Inc. (“C7”) in Utah State court. CoinTerra
has recently retained local counsel to address this dispute.
Moreover, CoinTerra has filed a counterclaim against C7 in
Federal Court in the District of Utah. CoinTerra intends to
vigorously prosecute its claims against C7 while defending
the claims levied by C7. Yet, CoinTerra is hopeful that the
parties can resolve this matter quickly.”

Bicknellski

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I was wondering has anyone noticed a pattern with all the dogie threads in hardware?

Can someone review them and let me know what you think and post your thoughts here?

I hope I am not the only one seeing this.

Bicknellski

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Why do people insist on attacking those who report ethical failures of fabricators or their agents?

The idea is to discredit those who would report those who are trying to scam or shill for a company without any basis in fact for that support.

The goal as always is to discredit anyone that might call out a business on any number of scams. Loshia/Marto/Dogie/Inaba/BCP19/Slok and a small band of others are clearly of this ilk.

What is important is for those who wish to have a CLEAN and ETHICAL forum to work closely together and rid the community of such fly by night operations.

Searing

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Clueless!

Quote from: Unacceptable on May 21, 2015, 04:33:26 AM

Well,they at least they left their mark on the internet for all eternity Cheesy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

One can only hope Sonny & Josh don't pop up with another scam Roll Eyes

Good bye BFL!!!! It's about freakin time!!!! Cool

heh .......this is probably true (delete if OP deems this too off topic)

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-mining-figure-joshua-zipkin-responsible-bitcointalk-hack/

megalomania is its own reward it seems.....always charging windmills and damn the consequences.......(may have to cut him some slick due to mental illness if true)

Bicknellski

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Is anything worth buying? Not if ROI is something you crave or desire.

Quote from: Xian01 on May 21, 2015, 05:20:28 AM

Quote from: Rabinovitch on May 21, 2015, 04:04:51 AM

Have Bitmain any plans on lowering S5 (and maybe shipping?) price? Roll Eyes

I'm not really surprised they've held firm at the $340 price for so long - They are the only game in town at present, and can charge whatever they want for their products.

I not a fan of such arrogant behaviour.

As a result, for the last few months, I've been taking advantage of the low BTC/USD pricing, and every time I think about buying another miner, I just buy 1BTC instead on Coinbase and think to myself "Now wasn't that easier and more cost-effective ?"

Given the current price of ~$235 USD/BTC, it doesn't make any financial sense purchasing miners at their current pricing. An S5 priced at $340 is presently looking @ ~1year of runtime for ROI, excluding electrical and power supply costs.

It doesn't make any sense at all to buy Bitmain products, presently - A ROI will be difficult and uncertain.

Unacceptable

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Well,they at least they left their mark on the internet for all eternity Cheesy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

One can only hope Sonny & Josh don't pop up with another scam Roll Eyes

Good bye BFL!!!! It's about freakin time!!!! Cool

Bicknellski

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Quote from: cinnamon_carter on May 21, 2015, 03:34:23 AM

Imagine an alternate universe where angry customers of a company like Butterfly hunted down the people who ran the scam and wired their brains to permanently mine bitcoin using similar tactics from the movie Seven to keep them alive and mining as long as possible , no matter how low the hash rate just to teach other people a lesson what happens in the universe when you promise to deliver bitcoin mining equipment and you rip your customers off instead with help from jacked publications like Wired magazine who wrote articles stating they were using one of your units.

Jail time and paying back customers is fine the futuristic fictional penalties are great and all but let us be rooted in 2016/17. When Sonny will be seeing jail time.

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Imagine an alternate universe where angry customers of a company like Butterfly hunted down the people who ran the scam and wired their brains to permanently mine bitcoin using similar tactics from the movie Seven to keep them alive and mining as long as possible , no matter how low the hash rate just to teach other people a lesson what happens in the universe when you promise to deliver bitcoin mining equipment and you rip your customers off instead with help from jacked publications like Wired magazine who wrote articles stating they were using one of your units.

Searing

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Clueless!

Quote from: Bicknellski on May 21, 2015, 03:12:16 AM

BFL in the final death throws is finally circling the drain. It is over. Thank his noodly appendage it is over!

As BFL stops paying their employees it is all but over for this scam outfit and those who would remain would be what, brainwashed?

Bets on if Bruce remains in KC?

Quote from: Techknowledgy on May 20, 2015, 11:40:40 PM

Quote from: satanbelly35 on May 20, 2015, 06:24:26 PM

BFL is over. I just got a call while being on vacation that no one will be getting paid to work there any more, so anyone stupid enough to workwithout pay will still be there. I'm going to miss my best bud Bruce Peterson, who showed me the ropes on how to make heat without light and watch the satoshis flow. And for the love of Satoshi wash your ass prick.

If anyone is truly interested in making sure they don't see another scamming day hurry up and call Capital One to let them know that they'd be making one of the biggest mistakes trying to salvage that snakepit.

Rock on

edited for typo...

I can confirm this as my sources say the same thing. Everyone was sent home and the only people still working there will be without pay from what I was told. They're still trying to salvage the Capital One deal, but I personally doubt that will happen.

stuff will get dumped on ebay .it seems a lot of monarchs imho.....so if not the refunded stuff ...likely going out the back door of BFL imho...

i suspect we will a mass of 'immigration' of BFL folk to countries that don't allow extradition on white color crime etc.....from running afoul of the FTC and likely IRS...here soon.....if it was me it would 'have btc will travel".....feet do your stuff!

will really piss me off if that happened and then Josh and company got on here and 'crowed' about all the hidden BTC on the usb's they got on this 'scam'

don't really believe the above...but just like to scare myself...shudder

Bicknellski

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BFL in the final death throws they are finally circling the drain. It is over. Thank his noodly appendage it is over!

As BFL stops paying their employees it is all but over for this scam outfit and those who would remain would be what, brainwashed?

Bets on if Bruce remains in KC?

Quote from: Techknowledgy on May 20, 2015, 11:40:40 PM

Quote from: satanbelly35 on May 20, 2015, 06:24:26 PM

BFL is over. I just got a call while being on vacation that no one will be getting paid to work there any more, so anyone stupid enough to workwithout pay will still be there. I'm going to miss my best bud Bruce Peterson, who showed me the ropes on how to make heat without light and watch the satoshis flow. And for the love of Satoshi wash your ass prick.

If anyone is truly interested in making sure they don't see another scamming day hurry up and call Capital One to let them know that they'd be making one of the biggest mistakes trying to salvage that snakepit.

Rock on

edited for typo...

I can confirm this as my sources say the same thing. Everyone was sent home and the only people still working there will be without pay from what I was told. They're still trying to salvage the Capital One deal, but I personally doubt that will happen.

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