Topic: [GUIDE] B's A More Ethical & Trustworthy Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide - page 7. (Read 29202 times)
February 26, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
My situation is I'm a legal miner (bank error forced to file see thread below so as not to go off topic....do the poll also if you'd like)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10585422
So essentially I've been a mining like heck and due to the circumstances of the above thread ..with little choice have managed or will manage
to pull it off for 3 years with equip deprecation and home biz etc and will likely pay NO TAXES to IRS thru 2015 when my last miner poops out (knc Titan)
THE CATCH
is if home mining equip is dead...for usefulness with perhaps cloud mining the same soon......then I will have in 2016 (2.5k or so equip depreciation off of mining I could use) and 2017 (maybe 1K left of the same)
so if no home miners and I doubt cloud mining (see my tag line below) applies ..how to get the rest of my equip depreciation kudos for these last 2 years
round this all out to keep the IRS happy? need an option to home miners that makes sense and can kinda sorta make some coin don't ya know
of my 5 year biz plan ...as a legal usa miner (2013 IRS virtual currency guidelines)
so the point is (further details in above thread link off topic)
1) IS THERE any very small data hall type arrangement of a more robust manner then cloud hosting..ie some small share/part owner of small pooled data farm that people
could recomend? again not cloud mining.....i really don't think that would fly..i mean like 10 guys renting something and pooling equipment kinda thing
to get around the home miners going bye bye?
If there are ....anyone here got some that are legit? or they run? or they use? etc
2) same as above but more of a co-op non profit arrangement ( like farmers would use to get/pool equipment under same kind of showing of equip to 'crop
so to speak' revenue stream...ie IRS wants 25% of what I mine (less equip deprecation and other biz expenses) this is also true of a farm co-op arrangement
again catch is if i want to show revenue (mining or as an example farmer) then mining (crops) has to make some kinda sense.....or why farm/mine or buy
the tractor/miner etc you get the analogy....has to make 'some' sense even if at some loss in long term
3) perhaps frigging cloud hosting qualifies (see my tag line) i sorta doubt it .....IRS audit and you point to a web page....? virtual cloud miner? probably not
anyway just here to point out that some of us (thru no fault of our own) kinda had to want to or forced to be legal miners in USA so to expand this beyond the
home miner drought of equipment in the future...are there any small co-op / data hall arrangements of equip that may make sense in the future (2016/17 in my case)
that are getting off the ground to fill in this void of the home miners going bye bye
this thread may want to review such 'real' equip situations co-op or otherwise as a stop gap or bridge away from home mining equip (now that esp scrypt seem to be toast)
anyway just my thoughts I used to run a large bbs game server back in the day....it was a lot more fun with 5 guys involved making the bbs 5x bigger then it was
just running a puny game server /bbs by your lonesome...that also was a biz.....same kinda logic....
and again (see my cloud hosting tagline) imho cloud hosting per say ...will probably not cut this ...(but i could be wrong)
anyway if this is off topic feel free to kill this post...but if home miners are going kaput here soon this seems the only small scale option left small group equip
arrangement of a data hall /bldg or co-op
looking for some legit options with the above in mind....supposedly there have to be small players of this of some note and reputation that would apply to this thread
thanks for reading the above mess and feel free to kill this post if it is too far off the home miner topic of review
February 25, 2015, 11:08:09 AM
Feast your eyes on this:
Shocking. Just.......shocking
Shocking. Just.......shocking
The reason?
He was the one that posted the Technobit Fucked Us thread. Marto has played these sorts of games with anyone who calls him out on his scams. Be it not refunding some individuals, sending fake tracking information, cancelling and often delaying shipments or just plain ignoring customers.
Anyone who continues to support Technobit at this point must either be paid to do so or just a multiple account of Marto and his team. Sad but this fraud has gone on since 2013 without too much notice and still people keeping buying crappy product and even worse customer service. None of this is surprising really. Anyone who speaks out as a customer with pending orders runs the risk of getting further screwed.
February 25, 2015, 06:16:42 AM
Feast your eyes on this:
Shocking. Just.......shocking
Today it's a nice surprise that I ordered arrived miner HEX4M from TECHNOBIT.
But my joy vanished when I opened the box. I smelled the smell of burning hardware.
The device was stained with greasy dust ...
A few pictures ...
But my joy vanished when I opened the box. I smelled the smell of burning hardware.
The device was stained with greasy dust ...
A few pictures ...
Shocking. Just.......shocking
February 22, 2015, 05:59:05 AM
Notice.
We will strive to update the thread weekly with screen captures and links to news and posts in the forums here that are important to the maintenance of the thread.
It looks as we move forward there are fewer and fewer companies to monitor and still fewer new companies entering the marketplace.
Most companies are now moving to the B2B model as they close down or limit their exposure to the consumer market.
We have updated the original rating post and we will post screen captures and news directly to the update post.
As mining matures the need for consumer protection or threads like these becomes less and less meaningful as the market has already changed away from the small time forum readers to business size entities.
At some point in 2015 it is clear the consumer market will be completely dead if it is not already. We will have to start following news reports instead of threads in this section of the forum for information.
We will strive to update the thread weekly with screen captures and links to news and posts in the forums here that are important to the maintenance of the thread.
It looks as we move forward there are fewer and fewer companies to monitor and still fewer new companies entering the marketplace.
Most companies are now moving to the B2B model as they close down or limit their exposure to the consumer market.
We have updated the original rating post and we will post screen captures and news directly to the update post.
As mining matures the need for consumer protection or threads like these becomes less and less meaningful as the market has already changed away from the small time forum readers to business size entities.
At some point in 2015 it is clear the consumer market will be completely dead if it is not already. We will have to start following news reports instead of threads in this section of the forum for information.
February 22, 2015, 04:19:30 AM
Is Bitfury selling to anyone?
Seems here is some information that makes it look like Bitfury is no longer in the marketplace selling wholesale. Seems like there is a lot of slack in the Bitfury wholesale sales market I have not read anyone buying Bitfury in a long while. Anyone else seen any Bitfury wholesale news anywhere?
DigitalBTC Inks Deal With Spondoolies-Tech to Expand Mining Operation.
by Nermin Hajdarbegovic | Published on January 23, 2015 at 13:24 GMT
Australian bitcoin company digitalBTC is expanding its mining capacity and entering a new contract with data centre provider Verne Global.
The company said it is acquiring new bitcoin mining hardware from manufacturer Spondoolies-Tech, although the exact details were not revealed.
DigitalBTC did say, however, that the new hardware will expand its processing capacity by approximately 40% for a “small outlay” of about $700,000. When it launched in early 2014, digitalBTC relied on BitFury mining hardware.
The Verne Global contract will allow digitalBTC to reduce its power costs by approximately 20% across half of its power commitment. Verne Global is already working with digitalBTC, hosting mining hardware at its data centre campus in Iceland, which is powered by geothermal energy.
DigitalBTC CEO Zhenya Tsvetnenko said the new contract will help the company reduce operating costs and increase efficiency.
The company's focus will be on developing new software solutions such as digital X Mintsy, but legacy mining operations will continue to be updated, he added.
Sidestepping the consumer market
Seems here is some information that makes it look like Bitfury is no longer in the marketplace selling wholesale. Seems like there is a lot of slack in the Bitfury wholesale sales market I have not read anyone buying Bitfury in a long while. Anyone else seen any Bitfury wholesale news anywhere?
DigitalBTC Inks Deal With Spondoolies-Tech to Expand Mining Operation.
by Nermin Hajdarbegovic | Published on January 23, 2015 at 13:24 GMT
Quote
Australian bitcoin company digitalBTC is expanding its mining capacity and entering a new contract with data centre provider Verne Global.
The company said it is acquiring new bitcoin mining hardware from manufacturer Spondoolies-Tech, although the exact details were not revealed.
DigitalBTC did say, however, that the new hardware will expand its processing capacity by approximately 40% for a “small outlay” of about $700,000. When it launched in early 2014, digitalBTC relied on BitFury mining hardware.
The Verne Global contract will allow digitalBTC to reduce its power costs by approximately 20% across half of its power commitment. Verne Global is already working with digitalBTC, hosting mining hardware at its data centre campus in Iceland, which is powered by geothermal energy.
DigitalBTC CEO Zhenya Tsvetnenko said the new contract will help the company reduce operating costs and increase efficiency.
The company's focus will be on developing new software solutions such as digital X Mintsy, but legacy mining operations will continue to be updated, he added.
Sidestepping the consumer market
Quote
Another subject broached was the company's emphasis on the B2B market, a decision that has proved advantageous for BitFury, as it has largely avoided the negative public scrutiny given to its competitors.
Though he credits the move only to a "feeling" about the market, Vavilov is more specific about the problems BitFury has avoided with this decision.
He said:
"We decided to not deal with small clients, because it's a headache. We would need a big support team to support all these clients. When you're dealing with big clients, he's paying hundreds of thousands of dollars, but the headache you're getting from small clients can be much bigger, because for him $5 is like the last money."
Vavilov said that when looking at this scenario, he determined it would be better to spend energy on developing strong equipment instead of customer service. In addition, he cited the lack of awareness among consumers of the full risks of their investment.
"It is much easier to work with larger clients with whom you have established a win-win relationship," he added.
A native of Latvia and a long-time resident of Ukraine, Vavilov said that BitFury began making chips 2012, but that before this, he and his team had only experimented with CPUs and video cards. The chip won reviews from the bitcoin community, even as the company drew notice for then being run by unknown individuals.
"It's still the most efficient chip in the market, if we're talking about six-year-old technology," he boasted.
Though he credits the move only to a "feeling" about the market, Vavilov is more specific about the problems BitFury has avoided with this decision.
He said:
"We decided to not deal with small clients, because it's a headache. We would need a big support team to support all these clients. When you're dealing with big clients, he's paying hundreds of thousands of dollars, but the headache you're getting from small clients can be much bigger, because for him $5 is like the last money."
Vavilov said that when looking at this scenario, he determined it would be better to spend energy on developing strong equipment instead of customer service. In addition, he cited the lack of awareness among consumers of the full risks of their investment.
"It is much easier to work with larger clients with whom you have established a win-win relationship," he added.
A native of Latvia and a long-time resident of Ukraine, Vavilov said that BitFury began making chips 2012, but that before this, he and his team had only experimented with CPUs and video cards. The chip won reviews from the bitcoin community, even as the company drew notice for then being run by unknown individuals.
"It's still the most efficient chip in the market, if we're talking about six-year-old technology," he boasted.
February 21, 2015, 05:40:49 AM
FYI I thought I would correct the AMT entry where it states no longer shipping units. It should read no longer shipping to US customers. In the chats "Joshua fat fuck Zipkin" Plainly states he will sell only outside of the US, as retaliation for the lawsuit.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
Any evidence he is selling these miners to anyone in Europe?
If not then no need to bother changing the rating. I don't see any evidence that he is currently selling anything other than a few bullshit responses using an alias in these forums to back his buddy Marto at Technobit.
I'll pull the info directly from the chats. The fact that the page is still up and one can order miners should also be a red flag that he is still out there scamming.
Here is the excerpt from the chat in my sig (back when he was actually reachable) Timestamped for convinence this should cover it:
[8/6/2014 2:14:56 PM] Opeium2: Which hardware are you moving
[8/6/2014 2:15:06 PM] Joshua: extra hardware
[8/6/2014 2:15:16 PM] Joshua: created fromthe extra chips webought
[8/6/2014 2:15:21 PM] Joshua: so we shipped everyones shit
[8/6/2014 2:15:32 PM] Joshua: and we have some extra hardware that we're selling
[8/6/2014 2:15:54 PM] Joshua: and we've designed theminers ive mentioned and we'll try and start
taking orders forthose on a per build basis
[8/6/2014 2:15:59 PM] Joshua: thats about it
[8/6/2014 2:16:20 PM] Joshua: and focus on a 5 megawatt farm financed by chinese investors
located in bg
[8/6/2014 2:16:22 PM] Opeium2: Whats the turn around really on any new builds?
[8/6/2014 2:16:29 PM] Joshua: 7 days
[8/6/2014 2:16:35 PM] Joshua: on new builds
Some more:
[8/6/2014 2:20:54 PM] Joshua: its wont matter
[8/6/2014 2:21:15 PM] Joshua: im not worried about selling
[8/6/2014 2:21:28 PM] Joshua: i just want these fuckers to shut upalready
[8/6/2014 2:21:33 PM] Opeium2: They wont
[8/6/2014 2:21:39 PM] Opeium2: not until all of this is over with
[8/6/2014 2:21:40 PM] Joshua: im just going to piss them off even more
[8/6/2014 2:21:44 PM] Joshua: even when it is
[8/6/2014 2:21:48 PM] Joshua: they still wont shut up
[8/6/2014 2:21:54 PM] Joshua: because they'll loose the lawysuit
[8/6/2014 2:21:57 PM] Joshua: and feel even more fucked
And some more evidence.
[8/14/2014 11:33:29 AM] Opeium2: That reminds me I was just wondering. I know you mentioned
you have no people...but what happened to your partners? Jim Brown. I saw mention of them and it
got me wondering about that? where are they in all this?
[8/14/2014 11:33:49 AM] Opeium2: I mean if they got a financial stake in this I would imagine they
would be doing more here to help you out
[8/14/2014 11:33:57 AM] Josh: not much
[8/14/2014 11:34:53 AM] Josh: what financial stake? in the debt?
[8/14/2014 11:35:05 AM] Josh: its not like we have dividends to hand out
[8/14/2014 11:36:16 AM] Josh: Jim does the backend, financials and thats about it. He basically
checked out after the case was filed. Hes still on board but just doesnt want to deal with clients or
sales.
[8/14/2014 11:36:41 AM] Josh: Alyssa does the accounts but she got another part time job because
we couldnt afford keep her on full time
[8/14/2014 11:37:21 AM] Josh: we basically let everyone in the US accept for a few part times girls
which hang out around the office for next to nothing
[8/14/2014 11:37:42 AM] Josh: and outsourced the office bg, and we focus on EU and Asian sales
via EU and Asian incorporated companies.
[8/14/2014 11:38:17 AM] Josh: cant do much with little funding and dont want to sell to the US
driectly until this crap is all over
Customer reports of orders?
None.
February 20, 2015, 03:43:37 PM
FYI I thought I would correct the AMT entry where it states no longer shipping units. It should read no longer shipping to US customers. In the chats "Joshua fat fuck Zipkin" Plainly states he will sell only outside of the US, as retaliation for the lawsuit.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
Any evidence he is selling these miners to anyone in Europe?
If not then no need to bother changing the rating. I don't see any evidence that he is currently selling anything other than a few bullshit responses using an alias in these forums to back his buddy Marto at Technobit.
I'll pull the info directly from the chats. The fact that the page is still up and one can order miners should also be a red flag that he is still out there scamming.
Here is the excerpt from the chat in my sig (back when he was actually reachable) Timestamped for convinence this should cover it:
[8/6/2014 2:14:56 PM] Opeium2: Which hardware are you moving
[8/6/2014 2:15:06 PM] Joshua: extra hardware
[8/6/2014 2:15:16 PM] Joshua: created fromthe extra chips webought
[8/6/2014 2:15:21 PM] Joshua: so we shipped everyones shit
[8/6/2014 2:15:32 PM] Joshua: and we have some extra hardware that we're selling
[8/6/2014 2:15:54 PM] Joshua: and we've designed theminers ive mentioned and we'll try and start
taking orders forthose on a per build basis
[8/6/2014 2:15:59 PM] Joshua: thats about it
[8/6/2014 2:16:20 PM] Joshua: and focus on a 5 megawatt farm financed by chinese investors
located in bg
[8/6/2014 2:16:22 PM] Opeium2: Whats the turn around really on any new builds?
[8/6/2014 2:16:29 PM] Joshua: 7 days
[8/6/2014 2:16:35 PM] Joshua: on new builds
Some more:
[8/6/2014 2:20:54 PM] Joshua: its wont matter
[8/6/2014 2:21:15 PM] Joshua: im not worried about selling
[8/6/2014 2:21:28 PM] Joshua: i just want these fuckers to shut upalready
[8/6/2014 2:21:33 PM] Opeium2: They wont
[8/6/2014 2:21:39 PM] Opeium2: not until all of this is over with
[8/6/2014 2:21:40 PM] Joshua: im just going to piss them off even more
[8/6/2014 2:21:44 PM] Joshua: even when it is
[8/6/2014 2:21:48 PM] Joshua: they still wont shut up
[8/6/2014 2:21:54 PM] Joshua: because they'll loose the lawysuit
[8/6/2014 2:21:57 PM] Joshua: and feel even more fucked
And some more evidence.
[8/14/2014 11:33:29 AM] Opeium2: That reminds me I was just wondering. I know you mentioned
you have no people...but what happened to your partners? Jim Brown. I saw mention of them and it
got me wondering about that? where are they in all this?
[8/14/2014 11:33:49 AM] Opeium2: I mean if they got a financial stake in this I would imagine they
would be doing more here to help you out
[8/14/2014 11:33:57 AM] Josh: not much
[8/14/2014 11:34:53 AM] Josh: what financial stake? in the debt?
[8/14/2014 11:35:05 AM] Josh: its not like we have dividends to hand out
[8/14/2014 11:36:16 AM] Josh: Jim does the backend, financials and thats about it. He basically
checked out after the case was filed. Hes still on board but just doesnt want to deal with clients or
sales.
[8/14/2014 11:36:41 AM] Josh: Alyssa does the accounts but she got another part time job because
we couldnt afford keep her on full time
[8/14/2014 11:37:21 AM] Josh: we basically let everyone in the US accept for a few part times girls
which hang out around the office for next to nothing
[8/14/2014 11:37:42 AM] Josh: and outsourced the office bg, and we focus on EU and Asian sales
via EU and Asian incorporated companies.
[8/14/2014 11:38:17 AM] Josh: cant do much with little funding and dont want to sell to the US
driectly until this crap is all over
February 20, 2015, 03:16:20 PM
FYI I thought I would correct the AMT entry where it states no longer shipping units. It should read no longer shipping to US customers. In the chats "Joshua fat fuck Zipkin" Plainly states he will sell only outside of the US, as retaliation for the lawsuit.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
Any evidence he is selling these miners to anyone in Europe?
If not then no need to bother changing the rating. I don't see any evidence that he is currently selling anything other than a few bullshit responses using an alias in these forums to back his buddy Marto at Technobit.
February 20, 2015, 01:54:43 PM
FYI I thought I would correct the AMT entry where it states no longer shipping units. It should read no longer shipping to US customers. In the chats "Joshua fat fuck Zipkin" Plainly states he will sell only outside of the US, as retaliation for the lawsuit.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
As for new info, he is apparently living in Bulgaria as has been stated before. He is hiding out there due to the interest law enforcement has in charging him. Most of them local in state municipalities.
February 20, 2015, 12:00:59 PM
Bitfury... I am guessing is a solid buy for wholesale. Anyone ask or inquire about Bitfury wholesale care to comment?For wholesale inquiries: [email protected]
So, this guide should it be for those looking for wholesale opportunities as well?
I guess it does.
I suspect in about 2 or 3 months that wholesale will be the only kind of opportunities available to buy equipment.
I also suspect that this hardware section has already become irrelevant.
20Mw in 30 days in Georgia from Bitfury.
Anyone else still playing with Th/s and not Ph/s numbers should just give up and buy BTC and hold right?
[Delisted Thumbs Up]
Removed Thumbs Up Companies for Lack of Shipping (30 days without a post or units shipped)
Nano Fury Project USB miner Last Post September 23, 2014Although I'm not exactly happy that I'm no longer in the "thumbs up" category I think being in that new category is a fair status. Or if you decide to add a new category - something like "Retired Projects" or "Projects no longer in development" - you can move the NanoFury one there.
And thanks for keeping that list up to date!
I think retired projects is best. As there are going to be more and more defunct bankrupt or retired projects as we move forward.
Looking at these updates:
BTC Garden... bankrupt or closed shop?
Bitfury no longer sells product?
Asicminer no longer producing / selling?
Comments welcome.
Somethings will be different in 2015.
Bitfury only sells farms for mucho dinero..........
http://www.bitfury.org/products
Don't see a buy it now button do we.......
I thought ASICminer had another chip already for the next gen
February 19, 2015, 10:41:44 AM
Still no BFL refund? What should I do?Nice guide for what to do if BFL is still not refunding your order. From PuertoLibre
FTC requests anyone who has not yet recieved their refund to contact them and let them know. The (FTC) through the court are currently acting as watchdogs over BFL's refund queue.
Do not contact the former receivership, contact the FTC directly. They will assist in the process of adjusting or receiving your refund(s).
Helen Wong from the FTC's Division of Financial Practices:
HELEN WONG, DC Bar # 997800
[email protected]
TERESA KOSMIDIS, NY Bar # 4533824
[email protected]
LEAH FRAZIER, DC Bar # 492540
[email protected]
Please include details about your order, such as a copy of your receipt/statement stating (or itemizing) the amounts owed and a brief recollection or review of your previous attempts to obtain a refund. (include dates and times)
Do not contact the former receivership, contact the FTC directly. They will assist in the process of adjusting or receiving your refund(s).
Helen Wong from the FTC's Division of Financial Practices:
HELEN WONG, DC Bar # 997800
[email protected]
TERESA KOSMIDIS, NY Bar # 4533824
[email protected]
LEAH FRAZIER, DC Bar # 492540
[email protected]
Please include details about your order, such as a copy of your receipt/statement stating (or itemizing) the amounts owed and a brief recollection or review of your previous attempts to obtain a refund. (include dates and times)
February 18, 2015, 02:09:25 PM
Loshia & Zich Support Technobit... Why do they ignore the plight of Technobit Customers?There is a real stink from the Technobit thread. Some more angry customers I see. Then they will start promoting a new "project" and try to scam funds from people on BTCJam for 100 BTC for this improbably optimistic heat recovery concept. Looks like the end is near for Technobit. FINALLY.
Hi Dimoza,
You have still not waited long enough.
72 hours shipping is declared on the website, thats correct.
Unfortunately the clock in Bulgaria runs different than anywhere else in the world.
In my opinion, this seems to be a kind of Ponzi scheme.
10 people buy a miner, only one gets a parcel.
The others must wait until another 10 people have ordered something.
Funny Game!
You have still not waited long enough.
72 hours shipping is declared on the website, thats correct.
Unfortunately the clock in Bulgaria runs different than anywhere else in the world.
In my opinion, this seems to be a kind of Ponzi scheme.
10 people buy a miner, only one gets a parcel.
The others must wait until another 10 people have ordered something.
Funny Game!
Hi technobit,
HEX4M boards with Coolers, Item No.: 97 was oredered on 7 Feb 2015
Order reference: YKHOBUKVB
Status: Payment accepted
Have no email confirmation received, just PayPal receipt. Money was transfered.
The order successfully displaying in my Order history.
72 hours shipping declared on the website, but still nothing received.
2 days ago I wrote the letter to customer cupport via the website form... still have no answer as well.
Almost 2 weeks are gone. No emails no parcels.
Would be appreciate for comments and email contacting.
thank you.
HEX4M boards with Coolers, Item No.: 97 was oredered on 7 Feb 2015
Order reference: YKHOBUKVB
Status: Payment accepted
Have no email confirmation received, just PayPal receipt. Money was transfered.
The order successfully displaying in my Order history.
72 hours shipping declared on the website, but still nothing received.
2 days ago I wrote the letter to customer cupport via the website form... still have no answer as well.
Almost 2 weeks are gone. No emails no parcels.
Would be appreciate for comments and email contacting.
thank you.
Another complaint thread:
Write here all what you order at TECHNOBIT and was not delivered to you. Think about a class action. It should punish people who want to enrich the other
I ordered the 5.2 2015th
I ordered the 5.2 2015th
Lawsuits soon to start by European customers?
No more words...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10508319
10:13 AM / CET
Hello to all people who has been deceived by technobit.eu
After consultation with my lawyer he suggests the following procedure:
( Applies only to people in the EU, all others... sorry )
First:
Write to technobit.eu a letter with the demand for your goods or at your money within 14 days after receipt of the letter.
This letter you send via registered mail with Advice of delivery to technobit.eu.
Registered mail with Advice of delivery is important! This is the only way you can later prove that you have put your demands against technobit.eu.
(E-Mail with reading confirmation would also be possible , but we know... e -mails will not be read from technobit.eu)
Second:
Wait for the Advice of delivery. Should not take longer than 1 week.
If the letter is not deliverable , which can be assumed , go immediately with your Advice of delivery and your Invoice to a competent authority (police, courts) and make a complaint about Internet fraud against technobit.eu.
If the letter deliverable, wait 14 days.
If you have not received anything until the expiry of the time limit, then ... see above.
A possible message or E-Mail stating "we will send later" you can safely ignore.
So much only once by this time, everything else at a later time.
For eventually grammatical errors, I do not take any responsibility, english is not my native language.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10508319
10:13 AM / CET
Hello to all people who has been deceived by technobit.eu
After consultation with my lawyer he suggests the following procedure:
( Applies only to people in the EU, all others... sorry )
First:
Write to technobit.eu a letter with the demand for your goods or at your money within 14 days after receipt of the letter.
This letter you send via registered mail with Advice of delivery to technobit.eu.
Registered mail with Advice of delivery is important! This is the only way you can later prove that you have put your demands against technobit.eu.
(E-Mail with reading confirmation would also be possible , but we know... e -mails will not be read from technobit.eu)
Second:
Wait for the Advice of delivery. Should not take longer than 1 week.
If the letter is not deliverable , which can be assumed , go immediately with your Advice of delivery and your Invoice to a competent authority (police, courts) and make a complaint about Internet fraud against technobit.eu.
If the letter deliverable, wait 14 days.
If you have not received anything until the expiry of the time limit, then ... see above.
A possible message or E-Mail stating "we will send later" you can safely ignore.
So much only once by this time, everything else at a later time.
For eventually grammatical errors, I do not take any responsibility, english is not my native language.
February 18, 2015, 07:55:36 AM
[Delisted Thumbs Up]
Removed Thumbs Up Companies for Lack of Shipping (30 days without a post or units shipped)
Nano Fury Project USB miner Last Post September 23, 2014Although I'm not exactly happy that I'm no longer in the "thumbs up" category I think being in that new category is a fair status. Or if you decide to add a new category - something like "Retired Projects" or "Projects no longer in development" - you can move the NanoFury one there.
And thanks for keeping that list up to date!
I think retired projects is best. As there are going to be more and more defunct bankrupt or retired projects as we move forward.
Looking at these updates:
BTC Garden... bankrupt or closed shop?
Bitfury no longer sells product?
Asicminer no longer producing / selling?
Comments welcome.
Somethings will be different in 2015.
Bitfury only sells farms for mucho dinero..........
http://www.bitfury.org/products
Don't see a buy it now button do we.......
I thought ASICminer had another chip already for the next gen
February 18, 2015, 06:59:03 AM
[Delisted Thumbs Up]
Removed Thumbs Up Companies for Lack of Shipping (30 days without a post or units shipped)
Nano Fury Project USB miner Last Post September 23, 2014Although I'm not exactly happy that I'm no longer in the "thumbs up" category I think being in that new category is a fair status. Or if you decide to add a new category - something like "Retired Projects" or "Projects no longer in development" - you can move the NanoFury one there.
And thanks for keeping that list up to date!
I think retired projects is best. As there are going to be more and more defunct bankrupt or retired projects as we move forward.
Looking at these updates:
BTC Garden... bankrupt or closed shop?
Bitfury no longer sells product?
Asicminer no longer producing / selling?
Comments welcome.
Somethings will be different in 2015.
February 18, 2015, 03:14:46 AM
[Delisted Thumbs Up]
Removed Thumbs Up Companies for Lack of Shipping (30 days without a post or units shipped)
Nano Fury Project USB miner Last Post September 23, 2014Although I'm not exactly happy that I'm no longer in the "thumbs up" category I think being in that new category is a fair status. Or if you decide to add a new category - something like "Retired Projects" or "Projects no longer in development" - you can move the NanoFury one there.
And thanks for keeping that list up to date!
February 14, 2015, 07:30:52 PM
FYI in case you want an update on AMT to post, Joshua Zipkin is trying to file for bankruptcy in the middle of the class action lawsuit (won't happen due to precedents)...or attempting to. His lawyers also want to quit no doubt due to his utter stupidity and inability to listen to his lawyers. I doubt the court will allow it only because he has this money out there.
Oh thanks for that tidbit missed that in the forum has that been posted anywhere?
No just information shared between a few people. Since Josh Zipkin watches these forums via sock puppets and proxies a couple of us discuss the details among ourselves to not tip him off on anything new. No sense posting publicly anything he can use in he can use to benefit his case or to run away further. It's already obviously going down the shitter for him. The documentation pretty much supports that. But his issues won't end there. Until he makes this right we won't stop. He likely is using the money he stole to run a mine. It's already obvious he paid KNC a substantial amount for that so it stands to reason he is mining on his own and making money from that in huge amounts.
"Josh Zipkin bitcointalk"
"Joshua Zipkin bitcointalk"
February 14, 2015, 06:48:53 AM
FYI in case you want an update on AMT to post, Joshua Zipkin is trying to file for bankruptcy in the middle of the class action lawsuit (won't happen due to precedents)...or attempting to. His lawyers also want to quit no doubt due to his utter stupidity and inability to listen to his lawyers. I doubt the court will allow it only because he has this money out there.
Oh thanks for that tidbit missed that in the forum has that been posted anywhere?
February 14, 2015, 06:48:18 AM
Looks like Rockminer has closed its doors. Website has been down for over two weeks and rockxie has been completely absent from the forum for over a month.
He is working with AM has been for months. I believe he posted as such in his thread.
February 14, 2015, 12:49:49 AM
FYI in case you want an update on AMT to post, Joshua Zipkin is trying to file for bankruptcy in the middle of the class action lawsuit (won't happen due to precedents)...or attempting to. His lawyers also want to quit no doubt due to his utter stupidity and inability to listen to his lawyers. I doubt the court will allow it only because he has this money out there.
February 14, 2015, 12:33:47 AM
Looks like Rockminer has closed its doors. Website has been down for over two weeks and rockxie has been completely absent from the forum for over a month.
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