Topic: [GUIDE] B's A More Ethical & Trustworthy Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide - page 11. (Read 29202 times)

Keep up the nice work...this guide is pretty much spot on.

I ordered a year ago and have gotten nothing. No X3, no X1s. Now they talk about 14nm. What a joke. If they get one single preorder then i will have seriously lost faith in human intelligence.

well, they sold these based on promises that they are not keeping.

they are violating consumer laws all over the world.

fraud?  as far as I'm concerned no doubt about it.  a company run by a known credit card fraudster that has done nothing but change his game to a new kind of scam as far as I'm concerned.

anyone that sends these people a dime at this point needs a CT scan. 

they failed technically with miners that start on fire, they failed logistically by being unable to develop this or ship this in any sort of reasonable timeframe and they have failed financially, by squandering their customers' money,  they have failed miserably in terms of customer service/relations.

To me it seems that they have failed in every aspect of this project and this business. 

anyone would be better of plunking that money down on the craps table than investing with a  company with a performance record like this.

Avoid this scam company....new name does not make the past disappear.

F YOU scammers - reimburse people for your crap from last year. otherwise gtfo

whats wrong with that? By the time you build a PCB, receive chips, and assemble the entire thing you'll have a device that costs only 3BTC/TH by late october!

Even though Yifu has left Avalon (Canaan Creative or whatever) all other particpants like ngzhang are responsible for the Scam of last year!  

Avoid by all means! Scam!

During November. We'll contact SP20 customers and ask for wallets addresses.

My SP31 is out for delivery, and it just shipped 1.5 days ago, that's pretty fast!

I have ordered every Spondoolies-Tech Product that they has shipped so far, and every order has arrived within the time frame promised.    Customer service has been excellent!

I will continue to be a customer on future products, their pre-sales and post-sales customer service and honesty cannot be touched, and their products are rock solid.

Thanks Spondoolies-Tech team, keep up the great work!   Looking forward to hearing more about the next-gen!!

SP20 - less than a week
SP35 - one month

After 4 months you should know the answer is no.

STILL AWAITING ORDER:

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2 x TL-MR3020 router

2014-07-15    

107,40€

PD PayPal + Extra Fee    Payment accepted

No brackets or chip received yet. !! its been almost 3 weeks now..

Vesi,

Where to send the defective board? To same adress as RMA?
Could you plz send me PM with details?

Did just that.  It worked.  Found a dead module.  Another module has 1 dead chip and 1 live chip.  So I've asked BlackArrow to send out a few replacement boards and I'll just swap the heatsinks over.  Let's see if they will do that.   I'd contact MinerSource, but since they don't respond to emails, private messages and they cancelled their phone number, I'm not sure how to get a hold of them.

Update: while MS normally has not responded promptly, I got a response about the faulty hashboard and he said that they have replacements.  So perhaps there is some light in all of this.

I appreciate Marto's and technobit's intention to provide an open,  transparent process.  This question should be easy to answer.  Could you answer it please?

I have not received a single board yet.  Waiting on 25 boards.

You can also add me to the turning it off bunch. Moving out of colo, and retiring some 50+ TH of FrankenJups, S1s, Dragons, SP10s, S3s and BTCGardens.

We're moving 60TH to a warehouse with 5 cent power and about 50kw of capacity, and after the winter we'll likely be totally out. With the warehouse we can turn it off/on when profitable, which doesn't work in a colo situation.

second week of no boards delivered. still waiting for 67 more boards.

Thanks Vesi, but my question specifically asked where you are in the queue,  and how you were handling the queue.  Are you almost done with batch 1 orders?

Hello? Anyone out there in technobit land?

Of course, never intended to hide it though I am only asking them to take into consideration. Even without my comments, it is clear that they shipped and have a product that they sold from stock. It's their own product (despite not manufacturing their own chips).

That's why I'm waiting.  Even the S4 with a coupon is still a little overpriced.  You can pick up used Dragons in the $400ish range, so $800-900 should be the sweet spot.  But what do I know, Bitmain seems to be doing well.

Please kindly add BitCrane to your list of manufacturers. http://www.bitcrane.com/

They have a phone number and a business address and they respond readily to e-mail and also have shipped their products out with no issues.

I've had extensive dealings with them and they're a stand up company with a track record of at least two iterations of miners (the T110 and T110S) which actually are still selling units. They also ship from stock.

Leaving them out would be unfair given their thus far excellent business practices. I think Dogie, bobsag3 and maidak all received their units as well.

Hi I am an actual paying customer. For full disclosure one of my gadget companies GeekZen is also now an authorized distributor of BitCrane as well. I only entered into the distributorship after I had purchased the miners myself and was happy with it.

Interesting question. All the more interesting because no one has actually asked me before on the forums, even though I've discussed it at length on IRC and am very happy at any time for people to know what I think.

Mining died for the community/home miner a long time ago. It's just that the community miners haven't realised or accepted it yet. Community mining is only 15% of the hashrate now and shrinking. They're always hopeful and expectant but there really is no reason for them to be that way. Mining has gone to the data halls and the massive farms, mostly run by the manufacturers themselves who have the ability to create hardware on the cheap and offer it to the select few entities who can help their mining operations or provide funding or cheap hosting, instead of the consumer buyer market which is annoying, small time, noisy and boring. The only reason they continue to sell to that regular consumer market is there are enough people who have unrealistic expectations of making a profit somehow because they simply cannot believe that the numbers are stacked against them, such that the hardware manufacturers can charge a ridiculous premium to sell to that market to make it worth their while.

This should come as no surprise to anyone who's been watching bitcoin at large, but it will continue to surprise bitcoin miners, past, present and future. The reason miners don't see it is they're so blinded by the concept of a "money making machine" or the "goose that laid the golden egg" that they just can't see it.

Here's a quote of mine. Note the date on it:



To give you an idea of how long this has been known to the bitcoin community, even if miners refuse to see it, I think it's best to leave the final word to Satoshi himself, the inventor of bitcoin: