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Topic: Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned - page 4. (Read 1650 times)

sr. member
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I didn't know about this but why would they do that? I thought they took care of these animals when in their ranch aren't these people doing it to continue their horse might have a chance of winning again in the future? My question is, it's like the same as how cows and chickens been manufactured.

I doubt if they would just stop this kind of gambling since they were doing it in a long time. But I don't stand with animal cruelty if the caretaker knew there was something on their horses they should not let it race smh I guess this is all about money for them. I wonder what the jockey been thinking when riding a dying horse. Huh
legendary
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imagine the following:

if someone weighing 60 kg climbs on your body and you have to carry that person a few meters, let's say you carry that 60 kg person for a distance of 30 meters, would you be able to do this every day and hours? I don't think you could, so how would an animal like a horse not be too much of a strain on the animal by submitting such a person to it? The problem is that we are normalizing something cruel, athletes are not carrying weight, I would agree if horses just raced without them having to carry weight. but people don't want to do that, they want to enslave the animal in such an inhumane way and they are happy with that attitude

I have to admit that I was surprised and laughed a bit to see this kind of example.

Can't believe you compare our capability to horse capability in terms of carrying weight.

If we are 60kg, horses can't even feel our weight carrying at a distance of 30 meters. That was too easy for these horses as their body is naturally stronger than us. To add to that, these horses are carefully taken care of with lots of supplements and vitamins making them more strong. Do you think farm horses are the ones used in horse racing? Regardless, nothing will change the science behind it if we take your example.

In horse racing too, there is a weight limit for horse jockeys. As an owner, how can you make money on your horse if you put big loads on your horse? Smiley There's always a weigh-in before the race to ensure that horses can do a proper race.

And just for your information, racing horses are not working every hour. In my knowledge, it's only twice a day they are put into the race because obviously, why the owner will put their horses in heavy loads? These owners and operators are not dumb to put their horse in a situation like that since that's their investment. How can they make money in return if they will always tire their horses? Think, mate. Smiley
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From my experience I can tell you that those who bet on horses usually bet much more than those who play football or tennis or other sports. Just because... there are many more races (UK IR USA South Africa special events etc etc) every day at any time, much more events with other sports. This led to place more bets, and it's a serious problem for people addicted Sad to gambling. 
And it is not difficult to see why this is the case, horse racing is a gambling game, it is very rare to see a person just enjoying  to watch racehorses run, they watch the races in order to bet on them and try to get some profits, while in a sport like soccer the majority of the people watch the sport just because they like to watch it, and while they can bet on it for the majority this is not the main reason which explains why they watch the game.
In speaking with interest then we know the different in between soccer sport and a horse racing one and its true that soccer game do really get even more attention and popularity but we know that horse racing does still exist and some said that this sport is just for rich people or person and making out bets is really just pretty common.In speaking or talks of banning it due to this very sole reason on animal
cruelty then i dont see for government would really able considering such decision specially if they do get high taxes or revenue out of these sport then its unlikely for it to be
granted.
legendary
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From my experience I can tell you that those who bet on horses usually bet much more than those who play football or tennis or other sports. Just because... there are many more races (UK IR USA South Africa special events etc etc) every day at any time, much more events with other sports. This led to place more bets, and it's a serious problem for people addicted Sad to gambling. 
And it is not difficult to see why this is the case, horse racing is a gambling game, it is very rare to see a person just enjoying  to watch racehorses run, they watch the races in order to bet on them and try to get some profits, while in a sport like soccer the majority of the people watch the sport just because they like to watch it, and while they can bet on it for the majority this is not the main reason which explains why they watch the game.
hero member
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There are too many hyperbole in this topic, I mean I get that we are talking about something that is regarding life, maybe not human but still life and that is very important but at the same time I have to say that we are talking about a situation where it is not like a serial killer or pandemic, or nuclear war.

People are defending horse races like it would cure cancer, or they are attacking like it is the root of all things going bad in the world, neither is true. If it's banned then we would save many horses and I would be happy about it, but if it is not banned then some horses will have to live a bad life and that is upsetting but world will continue to go around. I doubt it would be anything more than that.
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imagine the following:

if someone weighing 60 kg climbs on your body and you have to carry that person a few meters, let's say you carry that 60 kg person for a distance of 30 meters, would you be able to do this every day and hours? I don't think you could, so how would an animal like a horse not be too much of a strain on the animal by submitting such a person to it? The problem is that we are normalizing something cruel, athletes are not carrying weight, I would agree if horses just raced without them having to carry weight. but people don't want to do that, they want to enslave the animal in such an inhumane way and they are happy with that attitude

You nailed it.
But many people do not care about it. They just want to have fun and money at the same time. I am not sure what goes on in the mind of horse owners. Do they really have soft heart? I doubt that.
legendary
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I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.

The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.

According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).

Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.

It seems that like many things in life, horse racing can be done in a bad way or a good way. Horses have been ridden for many thousands of years and there is nothing to say that they are always mistreated. I think all coercive methods like whipping or kicking should be taken out when trying to make a horse ride faster, after that - why should we not allow horses to compete for speed. Even athletes can over do it when it comes to training or pushing the human body, to the point where their heart muscle becomes so powerful it is too much. More research should definitely be done into the topic and if appropriate the laws should be improved on their welfare, but banning it outright may be unnecessary.

imagine the following:

if someone weighing 60 kg climbs on your body and you have to carry that person a few meters, let's say you carry that 60 kg person for a distance of 30 meters, would you be able to do this every day and hours? I don't think you could, so how would an animal like a horse not be too much of a strain on the animal by submitting such a person to it? The problem is that we are normalizing something cruel, athletes are not carrying weight, I would agree if horses just raced without them having to carry weight. but people don't want to do that, they want to enslave the animal in such an inhumane way and they are happy with that attitude
hero member
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This is a good link to read up.
https://debatewise.org/2494-animals-in-sports-and-entertainment/

This do really shows out some argumentation in between yes and no reason or choices which is actually on point with those kind of responses
towards cruel sports.It might sound not right then its still useless because if we do really look closely then its really that impossible for a
long time known kind of sport to be that banned.
legendary
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.

We can categorize it to:

1) breeders, horse owners, operators = rich

2) gamblers, bettors = for everyone

The minimum bet amount here is as low as 20 cents to 1 USD that's why all gamblers, regardless of status, can affordably place their bet. I know because there's a horse betting place here nearby and always full of people every day. Like in any gambling, there's a Favorite and Underdog here and odds for underdogs are really tempting to bet.

From my experience I can tell you that those who bet on horses usually bet much more than those who play football or tennis or other sports. Just because... there are many more races (UK IR USA South Africa special events etc etc) every day at any time, much more events with other sports. This led to place more bets, and it's a serious problem for people addicted Sad to gambling. 
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.

We can categorize it to:

1) breeders, horse owners, operators = rich

2) gamblers, bettors = for everyone

The minimum bet amount here is as low as 20 cents to 1 USD that's why all gamblers, regardless of status, can affordably place their bet. I know because there's a horse betting place here nearby and always full of people every day. Like in any gambling, there's a Favorite and Underdog here and odds for underdogs are really tempting to bet.
Yes, and that's a good categorization for those rich and simple bettors like me. The good side of it is about the minimum wager, it's not that a lot compared to the traditional ones.
Well, for someone who's betting on it, you really know the ins and outs of it. But if it has to be taken down and be banned due to the negative effect of it, what else can we think of?
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.
Horse racing is a gambling that involves many aspects, most of those who do horse racing gambling are rich people, because if ordinary people mostly prefer to do football gambling, in my opinion to prohibit horse racing, I don't think it will happen, because horse racing has already happened. has been around for a long time, and horse racing is also a sport that can keep us entertained and tense.
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It seems that most people here are against the animal cruelty in horse racing, that's a good thing. I am still struggling to understand what the average gambler on horse racing is like. On the weekend I asked some friends and nobody knows anybody who enjoys that sport. It must be a limited target group I guess. In an article I read that almost exclusively older men are gambling on horses. It could also be a cultural thing. Something else I noticed is that we still have Polo teams in my city. Never been to match either or watched on TV but I sometimes see the fields being prepared for a match. Now I am wondering if Polo could also be cruel towards horses. Are horses being hurt when playing Polo? I know that in Spain Polo is still very common and there is also quite a bit of money involved, it must be very competitive.
legendary
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That is correct - only people with strong heart can enjoy and participate in this game.
It is very intense game - although I have not been to the horse races in person but neither do I wish to - once in awhile I watch some clips if I find the match interesting.

Horse racing is an intense game, mostly of the gamblers who give bets are male adults, there's a lot of viewing and betting site in my country they really love horse racing, but it should be stop they need to consider the health of horses as well. They can choose other gambling activities that will not harm other animals, this game can be played by rich or not so rich that's why many people like it.
But if it's about betting then everyone who has money will be interested in betting on horse racing too, but if it's only about who athletes can be jockeys in horse racing then I'm sure they are rich people. Anyway, every sport has its own risks, but as long as they have good care then I think animals and/or humans who exercise will be good too. So, in sports betting it's basically not only about animals, because there are also humans who compete directly physically like MMA for example which I think is an extreme sport or tournament that is very prone to getting serious injuries.
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Horse racing is an intense game, mostly of the gamblers who give bets are male adults, there's a lot of viewing and betting site in my country they really love horse racing, but it should be stop they need to consider the health of horses as well. They can choose other gambling activities that will not harm other animals, this game can be played by rich or not so rich that's why many people like it.

Animal abuse is a reality and is going on since man start breathing on this world. It's not only horse racing where this abuse is going on, see what's going on in poultry industry. In my view such debate is useless, since its a big industry involving too much money and money is everything on this earth.
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That is correct - only people with strong heart can enjoy and participate in this game.
It is very intense game - although I have not been to the horse races in person but neither do I wish to - once in awhile I watch some clips if I find the match interesting.

Horse racing is an intense game, mostly of the gamblers who give bets are male adults, there's a lot of viewing and betting site in my country they really love horse racing, but it should be stop they need to consider the health of horses as well. They can choose other gambling activities that will not harm other animals, this game can be played by rich or not so rich that's why many people like it.
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.
That is correct - only people with strong heart can enjoy and participate in this game.
It is very intense game - although I have not been to the horse races in person but neither do I wish to - once in awhile I watch some clips if I find the match interesting.
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.

We can categorize it to:

1) breeders, horse owners, operators = rich

2) gamblers, bettors = for everyone

The minimum bet amount here is as low as 20 cents to 1 USD that's why all gamblers, regardless of status, can affordably place their bet. I know because there's a horse betting place here nearby and always full of people every day. Like in any gambling, there's a Favorite and Underdog here and odds for underdogs are really tempting to bet.
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I am not a medical expert so I would not comment on it.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
It's a game for everyone.
Not only the rich can play and gamble with horse racing but also anyone who's just a normie like you and me. There are many places where people are liking to see this type of races because they find it as something they'd love to see.
legendary
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Just place some strict regulations if there is some kind of animal abuse going on.

I believed that was already taking place since horse racing in some countries, like here, is fully regulated. It's just that maybe some cases aren't reported to the authorities that's why no actions were done.

And about that abuse, I can't think of a way why these people will abuse their horses where in fact they spending big money to make these horses conditioned in the match. There are inspectors before they will allow a horse to race and if those horses didn't reach the criteria, they won't allow being raced.

May I know the specific "abuse" you are referring to here? I just realized that it doesn't make sense to abuse these horses providing they need to take care of properly in order to be fit for racing. How will the owner make money for their horses if they are abused? I also don't see horses being forced to race since it's a risky move for the owners. It's a gamble.
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Sad reality. People have set aside their concern for animals because there is big money that is at stake. And when it comes to money, people are blind to see its consequences. Although cruelty is there, but its hard to ban this kind of game because this gives pleasure especially to those people who belong to high social status.
Even not big money and it's just small.

But they do look at the entertainment value that it projects, I've known people that are betting and only aiming secondly for the profit but they do enjoy watching these races.

They will always go against the law even if this will be ban in the future.
Well, if there's an imposed rule of it being banned they have to follow it no matter what and whether like it or not.
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