Topic: is butterfly labs mining with those ASICs at the moment? (Read 37505 times)
So we have the evidence.
the total hashrate went above 30TH for the first time in history!
i wonder....
i wonder....
We would like to see the EMC logs at that time... quite probable they were the cause.
Here's my prediction for BitcoinINV's "proof"
http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/
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2 years later his own words prove he was instrumental in burn in mining with customer rigs, covering up the fact and hiding tapeout dates for the chips... oh the lies, fraud and theft. What a piece of work.
Here's my prediction for BitcoinINV's "proof"
http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/
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Yes yes they were.
Many of the people that paid with BTC last year have now paid multiples of the original purchase price due to this deception and the strength of BTC vs USDs.
And if bitcoin had gone down vs USD, we would have paid merely a fraction. This line of reasoning is not sound. Those who preordered with BTC (including myself) could have mitigated their risk by immediately going out and purchasing BTC to cover the amount at market rate.
This is just a quaint distracting issue and doesn't change the fact that had BFL shipped anywhere near when they were supposed to then those people still would have done well even had BTC declined in value because they'd have been hashing before the block reward halving instead of after the halving AND after another vendor shipped. What they did was both unethical and illegal. This poor behavior was then made worse when BFL company officers repeatedly lied about the cause of these delays...always leading investors to believe that BFL could ship anytime now were it not for that darn dark cloud that seems to hover over BFL product launches.
Many of the people that paid with BTC last year have now paid multiples of the original purchase price due to this deception and the strength of BTC vs USDs.
And if bitcoin had gone down vs USD, we would have paid merely a fraction. This line of reasoning is not sound. Those who preordered with BTC (including myself) could have mitigated their risk by immediately going out and purchasing BTC to cover the amount at market rate.
But therein lies the rub, for if the rate did decline, the purchaser would have been out on two counts. Some actually did do this, albeit indirectly, via purchasing from Pastor Tom, too, to hedge their bit, but the gods weren't so kind to them.
Many of the people that paid with BTC last year have now paid multiples of the original purchase price due to this deception and the strength of BTC vs USDs.
And if bitcoin had gone down vs USD, we would have paid merely a fraction. This line of reasoning is not sound. Those who preordered with BTC (including myself) could have mitigated their risk by immediately going out and purchasing BTC to cover the amount at market rate.
Ok you think that way lol. Next time I need a loan from the community, I will tell them I am selling Pre-order bitcoins and I will give them to you when I they are ready. When I collect all the pre-order money I am going to buy a giant amount of mining equipment, but I am not going to tell you that. When I do give you the coin, I will now have free mining equipment paid for by you. Thanks for the capital I needed to buy the equipment SUCKERS! But "shhh" I will not tell you that. Now pay you the coins I have mined from the equipment you bought for me with your pre-order money.
Anyone see that.......
I have stated YOU WILL get you ASIC, It's just facked the way BFL goes about business. If you think they handle business in a proper manner you sir deserve a scammer tag.
Everything I have stated as a Fact can be backed up.... My opinion is that BFL took users funds and used it as a capital investment.
Or do you really think they are holding on to all those funds?
Anyone see that.......
I have stated YOU WILL get you ASIC, It's just facked the way BFL goes about business. If you think they handle business in a proper manner you sir deserve a scammer tag.
Everything I have stated as a Fact can be backed up.... My opinion is that BFL took users funds and used it as a capital investment.
Or do you really think they are holding on to all those funds?
The truly sad part is that this has been proven correct despite the denials, distractions, and outright attacks. Many of the people that paid with BTC last year have now paid multiples of the original purchase price due to this deception and the strength of BTC vs USDs. BFL clearly had little to nothing done when they began taking what was deceptively termed "pre-orders".
I read somewhere that BFL weren't going to mine but make money just from selling their hardware, this seems to prove otherwise:
http://www.weusecoins.com/globe-bitcoin/
http://www.weusecoins.com/globe-bitcoin/
This has already been explained away as an operation to heat Jody's chicken coop during the winter.
Seriously, this is a moot issue. 
I believe you might be mistaken.
I read somewhere that BFL weren't going to mine but make money just from selling their hardware, this seems to prove otherwise:
http://www.weusecoins.com/globe-bitcoin/
http://www.weusecoins.com/globe-bitcoin/
Testing the ASIC miners ... what happened to the idea of creating a new coin... BFLCoin ... which can be redeemable in the BFL store for mugs, T-shirts etc.. the ASICs could then come preloaded with some coins that people would start trading in etc... and it not damage any other networks??
Those who don't want to 'invest' in BFL via a preorder until they show they have something, see my thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/make-bfl-show-a-prototype-120925
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/make-bfl-show-a-prototype-120925
What if, just a blind guess, but what if they are in a respin?
?I did ask this on bfl forum too with no answer, I was questioning, what if they had a run trough fab but what they got was underperforming or not performing at all and now they were forced to do a second run with extra costs to get them faster?
What if, just a blind guess, but what if they are in a respin?
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What if, just a blind guess, but what if they are in a respin?
I dont have one of them Attorney General......
We have no one...... Members of parliament?.. But if I go cry to them that I gave my money to some international company and I am here to complain.. I would get laughed out of the place.
We have no one...... Members of parliament?.. But if I go cry to them that I gave my money to some international company and I am here to complain.. I would get laughed out of the place.
So something that had plan to ship by now doesn't even exist in a prototype...
you guys really think you're getting anything from them this year? I think not!
you guys really think you're getting anything from them this year? I think not!
Stop, how dare you question BFL the koolaid drinkers will get you! JK
Joking asking BFL questions is like asking a brick wall the only way to get shit out of them is to use your rights anyone who wants questions I highly suggest you ask http://ago.mo.gov/Consumer-Protection.htm they will be sure you get your answers or try your own attorney generals office.
So something that had plan to ship by now doesn't even exist in a prototype...
you guys really think you're getting anything from them this year? I think not!
you guys really think you're getting anything from them this year? I think not!
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