Topic: is butterfly labs mining with those ASICs at the moment? - page 2. (Read 37559 times)

There is no proto-type or ever has been, per the letter from the attorney general and Inaba.

the total hashrate went above 30TH for the first time in history!
i wonder.... 

what exactly do you mean?

Indeed, just what are the chips shown here that are called ASICs if you have no ASICs yet?

This is childish! I guess next we are all going to have MAC addresses to these mining units so we can verify these on the system?

haha

they certainly are not on the network in any quantity yet

we will know

perhaps they Are mining with them, And the reason your not seeing a mh spike is because they are capping thier own amount of units used over time, Intentionally, so that its harder to see if they use them or not

IMO, they dont have any working asic at the moment.. still dev in progress, finalizing, but not at the point to have unit to mine with yet !

Oh I see. I thought you guys were talking about the "ASICs." Interesting guess, I'm curious what they would be doing with an FPGA on board. Seems a little pricey to just be used for controlling the ASICs. I'm guessing the Atmel chip is probably something like an atmega 2560 micro or something they're using for control or comms (especially since it's near the FTDI chip).

I don't want to start argue over this, just note my words if you like or put me on ignore.

The chip beside the ARM one is a BGA. If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably a small FPGA.

No offense, but that doesn't make any sense. A QFN package is a standard, as long as the pin count is the same the packages are [nearly] identical, even with varying functions and manufacturers. The only difference would be markings on the top of the case of the chip (which do seem to be missing).

That would be like me saying because you got an Amazon box in the mail is [it] must be a copy of The Avengers, because that's what came in my identical Amazon box.

As someone already noticed, most likely.
The chip near the unsoldered ARM seems to be a DDR RAM chip, or maybe even SRAM,  I would say they will try to mine LTC. But I'll also say it will work like crap if they will..

So basically for the bitcoin magazine post (here: http://bitcoinmagazine.net/butterfly-labs-releases-more-asic-photos/) you guys soldered some random QFN components to the board to you would have something to show....?

Inaba, please explain.

Fair enough, I shall.

Then stop reading......

You are talking about YOUR demands and what YOU care about.  I don't care about what you care about - I care about what I care about.  So why are you still spouting on about this?  We get it - you don't like BFL, and you won't order from them.  So what?

If Avalon comes to market first?  Well, then I made the wrong bet.  I would blame no one but myself for putting my money into the wrong company.  It is not your responsibility, the government's responsibility, or anyone else's responsibility to "protect" me from what I do with my funds and whom I choose to trust with it.  If I want to put money into a pre-order with a months-long wait, that is my choice.

Look you might not understand how the law is in this manor.
A merchant can use the Funds to purchase Materials to produce the product.
They can not use the funds to create, or buy equipment to make the product.
Like I said that would be called a Investment. I will list my demands like I do for any company.
1) what is the product. Check BFL stated that
2) what does it do? They got that too
3) will we be updated with progress. X on that one
4) will I have my question answered with honest answers. X on that one too.
5) Shipping range. If you miss it tell me why. X they will not do that either.

I do not care about the Die sizes or the actual size of the product. I care about how they treat me and the community as a whole, which is like shit. I have never seen a rep from any company that sells things come on to a forum and chastise customers for asking questions. You all follow this company like they are innocent and their behavior is justified. I think the fear is something will go wrong and they will split with your funds, and yet again the koolaid drinkers will then be pissed. Now what if Avalon comes to market first, BFL has now caused you to lose out on a chance to buy a working model of a product.... how would that make you feel? I am sure they will get you your Asic's but the question is when, and how long are you going to let them draw you out?

I could only expect this from the people that advertise for them.....

So tell me then, when was the last time you preordered an item?  Did the vendor paid you interest on the funds you paid to them?  Or did they cancel your order after you made such an absurd demand?

I WANT MORE ATTENTION!!!