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November 05, 2021, 01:46:08 PM
I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
People most of the time do not think things through, there are only two ways to fix matches with money or with threats, and the kind of person that can use either one of those methods is probably someone you do not want to be around as it is obvious they have no moral compass and can do whatever is necessary to get what they want, so when you think about it in this way we see that it is not worth to try to become part of those circles that can fix matches.

You'll find yourself being victimized if you chased for this kind of people.
They can easily change the turn off events with money and influenced those people are very capable of manipulating the outcome,

either you'll be lucky to take some portion if fixed match went according to how you bought it or you may suffered with a great loss if the outcome

Turns against you. Fixed match can always be fix you don't have any clear direction and you don't have any idea if you are dealing with the right person behind.
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November 05, 2021, 01:40:26 PM
I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


My area of interest is cricket,  so I will talk from that prespective. Yes in cricket, match fixing is real and there are many instances where players were caught red handed. There are not many instance of match fixing in 60s, 70 and 80s. As cricket start growing in terms of money , we start seeing instances of match fixing. First one which I remember was of South Africa Captain Hansie Cronje. On this day in 2000: Hansie Cronje sacked over match-fixing scandal
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November 05, 2021, 01:21:09 PM
I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
People most of the time do not think things through, there are only two ways to fix matches with money or with threats, and the kind of person that can use either one of those methods is probably someone you do not want to be around as it is obvious they have no moral compass and can do whatever is necessary to get what they want, so when you think about it in this way we see that it is not worth to try to become part of those circles that can fix matches.
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November 05, 2021, 09:46:14 AM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.

I would do exactly the same. Most likely those clowns that contacted you can't do sh*t in regard to fixing matches, especially when we are talking of a famous crypto gambling platform. It would be worth investigating if there was a chance that they could do something, but that chance is more than likely equal to zero, so why waste time?
I think these people are bots, they message random telegram users and offer their fixed game information for money, though most of us are probably aware of this I'm sure there are still gamblers who fall for this kind of scam.

You know, it could also look real because what if their tip will hit, then most probably the gambler will try to avail again as he/she is more confident, but if the tipster will run out of luck and bet will not win, that's the time the gambler will realize he was only fooled, too late.
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November 05, 2021, 05:51:39 AM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.

I would do exactly the same. Most likely those clowns that contacted you can't do sh*t in regard to fixing matches, especially when we are talking of a famous crypto gambling platform. It would be worth investigating if there was a chance that they could do something, but that chance is more than likely equal to zero, so why waste time?
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November 03, 2021, 12:03:31 PM
We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Yeah, that must be a valid point. Even a gambler is getting the highest odds, how much they could make? Some 10x or 25x of their bankroll? But if they get into legal actions, that may risk their rest of life; definitely anyone could make multifold of money from other opportunities. Honestly greediness must be playing and leading gamblers to go against their law here. A law abiding gambler never will look for such a fixed match betting for any reasons.

Recently someone tried to contact me in telegram for fixed match betting on one famous crypto gambling platform; not sure how true what they were talking but I immediately blocked them and deleted the chat history.
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November 03, 2021, 08:25:07 AM
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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.

These are just suspicions, question is, with the total of 1,100 cases, is there at least one person getting convicted for fixing a game? If there's none, then I would say it's just useless because it will never stop when no one gets convicted, or maybe we are just too suspicious without a valid basis.
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November 03, 2021, 07:43:40 AM
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Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start

really interesting, thanks for linking this article!
now, I'm curious on how they detected it?
some whistleblower? game analysis somehow? other methods?

must be not so easy to check if a match was fixed or not.
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November 03, 2021, 06:27:39 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen

I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
Same here, that would put our lives at risk as that means you are part of a big criminal that kills people. This is a syndicate that's job is to fix games, they paid people to do it or will kill them if they won't follow, no way we will live a healthy life associating with these people.

That's why it's better to learn how to win in a clean way than getting a guaranteed win but putting your life and even your family at risk of getting killed.
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November 03, 2021, 05:57:38 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen

I wouldn't want to be one of them, tbh. This world of criminals is better to be avoided. We all know that in gambling the higher the stakes the more risk is involved. But in a fair game what you are risking is your money, while if you are "close to the Kitchen", as you put it, you are risking your health, your freedom, and even your very life. Regardless of the potential profit, it's not worth it.
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November 02, 2021, 04:36:03 PM
One of the most common reason on why people do still fall for this kind of scam or illusion that you do say is that they do tend to believe
that easy bets do exist or some sort of exploit or leakage which do actually exist but scammers or fraudsters do make use it as for them to be able to scam people but if you do just realize on how things works then you could really avoid and just simply stick with your own decisions and jurisdictions on things and not relying with these lies.
This is why people keep getting scammed, they want to believe that there is an easy way for them to make money in the markets and they are not willing to believe otherwise, even when the majority of the community keeps telling them that what they are looking for is impossible and that gambling should only be done for entertainment purposes they keep insisting there is a way to profit from those games.

And eventually when their capital is reduced to zero they realize how wrong they were and how the community was trying to protect them from this outcome, but unfortunately this realization comes too late for those greedy and naive gamblers.
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November 02, 2021, 02:30:17 PM
they don't really care about newbies and followers they just want to get personal gain and until now it's still very hard to stop this because of the habit of every greedy person who will do anything for his profit.
but it also really can't be completely blamed on influencers because indeed they won't get anything if there is no fomo that follows it. the problem is because the power of influencers in making them believe completely even if it is a trap.
Yeah, I have seen some influencers who are all just copy pasting what was given to them and asked to do. They never bother about the credibility of what they are promoting. Probably they will check for obvious abusing and security related things like whether content is anything related to terrorism or porn then I guess that they will be ready to publish so that their paycheck will be ready. Like someone mentioned on this forum, "life without influencers will be definitely better and less hassle at least for all crypto people"; damn true honestly.
You have a point however people need to also learn how to protect themselves, if influencers exist is because people are giving them attention and they believe what they say, and if companies are sending them money to promote a product then it is obvious that companies are receiving additional revenue from those streamers, so this is simple if people want this to stop they need to stop watching them, something that you and I know it is never going to happen.
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November 02, 2021, 12:27:14 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .
Some gamblers who know about that can benefit from the fixed matches as they will get the information from somewhere they know. But the number of that gamblers will not be too big.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.
Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.
Maybe those people who know about the match will place their bet because they know the final result to win some money. As long as they can manage it correctly, no one will know if they know the result.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.
Difficult but Possible of course right?
Yes, it is possible to use the benefits in fixed matches. But they need to be careful because they should think about the risk and consequences of getting caught by the regulator or the authority.
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November 01, 2021, 08:30:45 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.


The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.

Agree i think mostly is the one that has a high rank in the system which they are really know what is happening , also player which they will throw the game which they will not perform well. Money is money which if we are talking to it they will throw everything if they will get a lot of money out of it. I really dont know why they do that , is their winning is not enough ? so they are buying the pride of the games?
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November 01, 2021, 07:44:19 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.


The players maybe if they are the ones who do the fixed game, but for bookies? I don't know, because they are the ones who will receive the bet and if a bettor has information about a fixed game, he would put his bet to the bookies and the bookies will play him, so bookies, in short, do not benefit from it, they actually hate it.
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November 01, 2021, 06:44:49 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.
There are also some gamblers that benefits in fixed matches and those are the gamblers that close to the Kitchen .

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If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.
Then there are also others than Players and Bookies? and also the administrators of each sports that has been used for fixed matches are gaining.
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It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.
Difficult but Possible of course right?
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November 01, 2021, 06:00:40 AM
The only people who benefit from fixed matches are bookies and players.

If you happen to bet right in a fixed match, good for you.

It is difficult to make money off fixed matches.
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November 01, 2021, 04:55:39 AM
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There's no way a "real person" who claimed to have inside information about the fixed match will offer it to a random community just like here in the forum.

Any form of such offer is considered a scam. I actually not alarmed on that but rather think, are there really people who will fall on that crap?

Absolutely. It's funny that these scammers are trusted by some people because since there are not that much of options, it's either a win, a loss or a draw, they turn out to be right sometimes, and then the rumors start to spread that they really have some inside info on fixed matches. Don't trust them. Just make your bets by yourself, and you'll see that you'll be winning or losing with the same frequency.
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October 31, 2021, 07:54:07 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.
Looking upon the sporting industry from the outside it looks like very legit, but more and more forms of corruption is paving path. It is shocking to read a news mentioning about the increase of suspicions to 1100 since the pandemic start. Particularly the football sporting is at high risk on corruption. 655 cases recorded in the last nine months. So we can't say match fixing is not there anymore.

Source : Match-fixing suspicions raised in 1,100 cases since pandemic’s start
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October 31, 2021, 07:21:04 PM
Those are days when fixed matches are very common around in all sports. Now this has decreased a lot, due to the technology advancement. Earlier small signs were noted for fixed matches. With the present technology uplifting it is easy to identify these activities of players. Once I participated in such a match, and won the game. During the year around 2000 match fixing was quite common in most of the sports.

I also think that fixed matches are a thing of the past, at least in the top leagues of the "big" sports like football (both american and european), basketball and so on. It would just cost too much money to fix a match in the english premier league or the german bundesliga in football or some basketball match in the USA. What i can imagine though is that people with a lot of money can still try to manipulate matches in the 3rd or 4th division of football in the big football countries like England, Germany, Spain, Italy and so on. You can also bet on those games and therefore it would be probably the best opportunity for criminals to fix a match.
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