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When people borrow money, they are supposed to return it at the right time, but people do not want to return it at the right time. Accordingly, if you get money profit in gambling, then it is nothing but utter stupidity to expect that money will give treats to your friends. OP, His friend promised 10% of the profit but cut off all contact with him after winning the profit. It may be something like severing friendship with friends but in reality no friend wants to give a certain portion of his profits to friends. Maybe he wanted to give a certain part of the profit to his friend as a joke and later changed his mind because of which he didn't want to give 10% of the profit. However, cutting off contact with a friend can in no way be a sign of proper and true friendship.
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The point is we can bet but do not risk your life in gambling, so it is a place to have fun from your fatigue in multiplying life, it should be like that we consider gambling in our lives, but indeed most people gamble to see greater life opportunities, they are willing to risk Whatever for happiness that comes from the benefit, it is not a bit of a little time when it has gained victory and then emerged confidence in us then risking everything to get greater profits and that we call impulsive or greed.
The sad reality is that most people expect gambling to make them rich. Losing is not even in their minds, as they are focused solely on winning. That is why we see so many gamblers drowning in debt because they can’t accept defeat and constantly chase after a win. Unfortunately, instead of reaching their goal, they end up losing even more. This is the wrong mindset because we all know that gambling can never be a reliable source of income.
Putting pressure on ourselves leads nowhere other than frustration. Many people don’t become addicted to gambling because they are always winning instead, they become addicted because they keep losing and are desperate to win back their money.
Such thoughts become the worst mentality in gambling, because it will result in a hope, then implemented and ending will be a bad gambler mentality, your thesis is in my opinion, if someone continues to lose from he first played they will does not believe that he will change life in gambling, precisely because they have ever been able to win in a row or a big victory in gambling they will have the idea that they will get the world and everything in it if you bet bigger, everything will not continue if the initial steps are bad, but all Something will continue if the first step is victory.
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Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.

It's not wise to make promises when you are over excited about something or perhaps when you are even not in your normal state of mind because if you do, you might promise something that you will not find very easy to fulfill at the end when you are finally in that comfortable state of mind.  I don't think that guy can fulfill that promise because if he would done so, then he would at give even if it's not up to what he promised.

It happens even when the person is not excited that promises get tougher to fulfill as the day creeps by. His friend may have all he said in mind, and also tells himself that the money would get to Op someday, maybe when next he wins. Sometimes, it's better to be happy for the assurance, regardless of the delay in making it happen.

OP already said that he was not really so interested about the percentage that he wanted to give to him but if it was someone else who has already put a full hope on that promise, he can even make problem with that his friend lf he never fulfill his promise. I think people should not make a promise that they can not feel so comfortable to fulfill no matter the circumstance.
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Unfortunately, many gamblers are not masters of their word, and they sincerely want to quit gambling and switch their attention to something more useful, but they can’t. And I feel sorry for such people. Unfortunately, the words of an inveterate gambler, like an alcoholic, cannot be trusted. They are ready to swear by anything, threaten or beg, and this will be an unpleasant sight. Often, their loved ones who are codependent or simply forced to live with them because of the impossibility of changing their place of residence suffer from this. And only an experienced specialist can help here, which is now very difficult to find, and they are very expensive.

We are just human after all. Our words is always subjected to changes depending on our feelings since there’s no legal obligation to follow it especially if it’s just a promise during heat of the moment.

Human behavior is always like even if not gambling is involved. This is the reason why casino is confident to promote responsible gambling ToS despite it contains many guides to limit gambling activities that will reduce their profit.

Once a gambler always a gambler.
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Mentality of Gamblers Before and After Winning
Gamblers often break promises, this is common not only with you, I myself often experience things like you experienced, but because I often hear promises like that, especially to my friends, so I don't really care about that, I don't know. He wantskeep promises or not, fuck it.

Many of my friends when they are in trouble don't have any money, when they borrow and promise to give me extra money when they win a bet, when they win they disappear, when the money runs out they meet me again, So I can judge that friend, in the future I will not give him any more money, whatever the reason, because for me people like that don't keep their promises when it's hard to get to know old friends, when they're happy to get to know new friends.

GxSTxV, let that friend enjoy the win, even though you are not given any of the winnings, you don't need to collect it, so you can think about it yourself in the future, just once help him understand betting and so on.
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I wouldn't say it's the thrill that caused.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.


Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.

Unfortunately, many gamblers are not masters of their word, and they sincerely want to quit gambling and switch their attention to something more useful, but they can’t. And I feel sorry for such people. Unfortunately, the words of an inveterate gambler, like an alcoholic, cannot be trusted. They are ready to swear by anything, threaten or beg, and this will be an unpleasant sight. Often, their loved ones who are codependent or simply forced to live with them because of the impossibility of changing their place of residence suffer from this. And only an experienced specialist can help here, which is now very difficult to find, and they are very expensive.
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Well with those wins dont expect too much because sometimes people getting carried with their emotions and let those words came out with their mouth as you told that you are now getting quit with playing gambling it seems your friend would like to have a solo journey, now you could still be friends and makes mature enough with just small things you are getting argued. Let him on his gambling journey and learn from his wins and mistake so he will experience too why you quit playing gambling at the same time.

That's a good thing, my friend, but not because he will experience himself the losses (chances are that he keeps winning, which would make no difference) but because the best way to give a piece of advice to someone else is not by telling him what to do, but lead by example. If they both had an addiction, and the OP learns to don't care about earnings anymore, maybe his friend will rethink about what he's doing while, on the contrary, asking for the promised money could have a negative impact, IMO.
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Well with those wins dont expect too much because sometimes people getting carried with their emotions and let those words came out with their mouth as you told that you are now getting quit with playing gambling it seems your friend would like to have a solo journey, now you could still be friends and makes mature enough with just small things you are getting argued. Let him on his gambling journey and learn from his wins and mistake so he will experience too why you quit playing gambling at the same time.
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They don't realize that they will difficult to make them rich because gambling is not the right way. They don't see the loss even if they already lost their money in gambling but they will keep playing gambling without stop. Their mentality change following what happen to them so it is difficult to stop them and make them realize what happen to them. Playing gambling can change everything in our life and when we getting addicted to gambling, that will be worst for us and we will lose everything we have. So we can only be careful when playing gambling and always use the things that we needed so we don't get a problem from gambling.

Actually when we can limit ourselves to our gambling activities, everything will be fine. Those who finally have a change of character and become more ambitious about gambling will usually soon experience bad luck in their gambling.
A person's character can change when they get some wins from gambling. Likewise, when they lose in a row, there will be a change from the gambler too. Gamblers who are unable to control themselves are likely to be trapped in the future.
I agree with you that it is very important to maintain self-control and limits in gambling, because if you gamble uncontrollably, a gambler will most of the time face losses. When someone starts making decisions based on emotions, either in the excitement of winning or in the disappointment of losing, then he takes the first step towards his disaster, because this kind of mentality leads a gambler to complete disaster.
Therefore, controlling emotions in gambling is very important, and you should set a certain limit for gambling, and you should gamble with half the amount of money you can afford to lose, The further a gambler can stay away from gambling, the safer he will be.
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They don't realize that they will difficult to make them rich because gambling is not the right way. They don't see the loss even if they already lost their money in gambling but they will keep playing gambling without stop. Their mentality change following what happen to them so it is difficult to stop them and make them realize what happen to them. Playing gambling can change everything in our life and when we getting addicted to gambling, that will be worst for us and we will lose everything we have. So we can only be careful when playing gambling and always use the things that we needed so we don't get a problem from gambling.

Actually when we can limit ourselves to our gambling activities, everything will be fine. Those who finally have a change of character and become more ambitious about gambling will usually soon experience bad luck in their gambling.
A person's character can change when they get some wins from gambling. Likewise, when they lose in a row, there will be a change from the gambler too. Gamblers who are unable to control themselves are likely to be trapped in the future.
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The sad reality is that most people expect gambling to make them rich. Losing is not even in their minds, as they are focused solely on winning. That is why we see so many gamblers drowning in debt because they can’t accept defeat and constantly chase after a win. Unfortunately, instead of reaching their goal, they end up losing even more. This is the wrong mindset because we all know that gambling can never be a reliable source of income.
Putting pressure on ourselves leads nowhere other than frustration. Many people don’t become addicted to gambling because they are always winning instead, they become addicted because they keep losing and are desperate to win back their money.
They don't realize that they will difficult to make them rich because gambling is not the right way. They don't see the loss even if they already lost their money in gambling but they will keep playing gambling without stop. Their mentality change following what happen to them so it is difficult to stop them and make them realize what happen to them. Playing gambling can change everything in our life and when we getting addicted to gambling, that will be worst for us and we will lose everything we have. So we can only be careful when playing gambling and always use the things that we needed so we don't get a problem from gambling.
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It's best not to pay too much attention to him, because when he loses everything he will look for you, and that's the moment for you to advise your friend, forcing him to talk to him will only cause you heartache.
The Op made the right decision by just standing far away and observing him, and it's even more interesting that the person the player who won the game is avoiding doesn't even care about that, which he had promised him.
 
If he could have just come clean and said, Sorry buddy, expenses and some other things took away that which was just won, their friendship will just be the way it is," he could have also even gotten free advice on how to effectively manage his funds in case of next time.

Anyone that accepts this are probably pretending, in this case no one will feel less hurt just because the friend said sorry I have expenses, this doesn't make the friend a better person, it is only a man of integrity that keeps their promises, man to man it is a must, even in friendships, so that you both can respect each other and also it will make your friendship to be stronger and built on complete trust.

For what the world have turned into today I will prefer to stay away from any friend that don't like keeping their promises, it reflects a part of them that they can't be trusted and rely on, this is just me though, as I have come from dark places where friends aren't so loyal.
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The point is we can bet but do not risk your life in gambling, so it is a place to have fun from your fatigue in multiplying life, it should be like that we consider gambling in our lives, but indeed most people gamble to see greater life opportunities, they are willing to risk Whatever for happiness that comes from the benefit, it is not a bit of a little time when it has gained victory and then emerged confidence in us then risking everything to get greater profits and that we call impulsive or greed.
The sad reality is that most people expect gambling to make them rich. Losing is not even in their minds, as they are focused solely on winning. That is why we see so many gamblers drowning in debt because they can’t accept defeat and constantly chase after a win. Unfortunately, instead of reaching their goal, they end up losing even more. This is the wrong mindset because we all know that gambling can never be a reliable source of income.
Putting pressure on ourselves leads nowhere other than frustration. Many people don’t become addicted to gambling because they are always winning instead, they become addicted because they keep losing and are desperate to win back their money.
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I want us to be this sure to know that the gamblers don't mostly make some adequate preparation/plan over the bet they are playing except they have won, this is common because they also don't know what may turns out form the bet taken, knowing that one often losses than he won in gambling, many of them could have assume there is no need for making any preparation on ground when there is no certainty that they are going to win, except the few, will do so before and or after they have won.
It's not common, I call it reality.

Whenever a gambler loses, you know what's next to it. I am not trying to be good here but I won't be a hypocrite too. I've seen myself in that position and I want many gamblers to learn from it. Gambling is so much fun but we cannot bury our life into thinking there's a lucky strike somewhere out there because there's none.
Just think of this concept, to gamble is to lose, that made us clear to us that it's actually our destination to lose, not to win or gain. However, with slots and other luck-based games, if you can be lucky you will win, but it's only rare to be lucky in gambling, what is often is our losses we incur every after gambling. So to gamble is to lose, not actually to get rich quick and become instantly wealthy.
This should really be put up on someones mind on which we will really be ending up on losing in the very end when we do play gambling and thats why its really that very wrong that you will be thinking up that you can make money with gambling, and as of those times that you do make out some promises into someone then it cant be avoided sometimes because of extreme joy and excitement. The bad thing on this one that not all who  do make out such promise are the ones that they do meant it on which most of them will be that hiding on the time where winning amounts are significant and promises would really be meant to be broken on which this is the usual case.
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First off, why did he agree to give you 10% of the earnings? Did you help him place any of his bets or was it because he just didn't want you to feel left out.? At the end of the day your very friendship might be riding on this $140 that you now feel entitled to because of his half promise and unwillingness to pay.  
It's normal in male friendship, you don't have to help anything, but they will give promise if x then I will do y. Hence, we have heard so many women saying men only give promise, but zero action. This one is the example, @OP's friend promise to give 10% of the profit, but he didn't do it.

Yes, it can be concluded that his friend forgot him when he was on top and remembered his friend again when he was down, yes, OP should be grateful because with this he no longer needs to respond to his friend in any situation, he also has to act indifferent to his friend so that his friend also realizes his mistake.
For me, friends play a very important role in my life if something happens, one day I will definitely need their help, so as much as possible not to break off friendship just because of money.
The reality is high class people tend to not help low class people and low class people tend to help other people. If you care with "friendship" you're high unlikely be rich since you value friendship over money, rich people don't have friends, but they have colleagues, acquaintances, schoolmates, clients.

Well if they pay up thats a good freind! I find usually that unless i put in some skin in the game i'm not getting a payout period lol. There is no such thing as something for nothing, there is always some sort of price you pay whether it be monetary or something else! The price could be a favor or some other sort of agreement not always tied to money but more so a promise to give something or do something. Honestly IMO it sounds like unless you hound this guy on it I don't think he is gonna pay.
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It's not wise to make promises when you are over excited about something or perhaps when you are even not in your normal state of mind because if you do, you might promise something that you will not find very easy to fulfill at the end when you are finally in that comfortable state of mind.  I don't think that guy can fulfill that promise because if he would done so, then he would at give even if it's not up to what he promised.
You’re definitely right and sometimes promises can be broken for some reasons, we are definitely not God who makes promises and must fulfil His promises, we are humans and it’s normal to promise something and maybe later have a change of mind or feel indifferent about fulfilling those promises, but if such case should ever happen, it’s only logical to explain to the person, and sometimes whether the person understands or agrees with you shouldn’t really be your problem, as long as you’ve tried explaining your reason for breaking those promise, but just disappearing without an explanation is illogical.
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As a matter of fact for someone who has been in this shoe before can handle the early stage. At times it’s not even related with gambling win or activity rather a lot of people act same whenever money is available, this is actually two sided because I can remember a topic here stating gamblers should avoid their friends after a win due to careless spending. I’m sure the friendship between both is genuine so why should anyone act in this manner, the money might not stand as a problem yet it’s nothing related with gambling rather greed, funny enough the friend needs an advice or he/she might repeat same attitude perhaps another gambling win or something else.
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I want us to be this sure to know that the gamblers don't mostly make some adequate preparation/plan over the bet they are playing except they have won, this is common because they also don't know what may turns out form the bet taken, knowing that one often losses than he won in gambling, many of them could have assume there is no need for making any preparation on ground when there is no certainty that they are going to win, except the few, will do so before and or after they have won.
It's not common, I call it reality.

Whenever a gambler loses, you know what's next to it. I am not trying to be good here but I won't be a hypocrite too. I've seen myself in that position and I want many gamblers to learn from it. Gambling is so much fun but we cannot bury our life into thinking there's a lucky strike somewhere out there because there's none.
The point is we can bet but do not risk your life in gambling, so it is a place to have fun from your fatigue in multiplying life, it should be like that we consider gambling in our lives, but indeed most people gamble to see greater life opportunities, they are willing to risk Whatever for happiness that comes from the benefit, it is not a bit of a little time when it has gained victory and then emerged confidence in us then risking everything to get greater profits and that we call impulsive or greed.
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I want us to be this sure to know that the gamblers don't mostly make some adequate preparation/plan over the bet they are playing except they have won, this is common because they also don't know what may turns out form the bet taken, knowing that one often losses than he won in gambling, many of them could have assume there is no need for making any preparation on ground when there is no certainty that they are going to win, except the few, will do so before and or after they have won.
It's not common, I call it reality.

Whenever a gambler loses, you know what's next to it. I am not trying to be good here but I won't be a hypocrite too. I've seen myself in that position and I want many gamblers to learn from it. Gambling is so much fun but we cannot bury our life into thinking there's a lucky strike somewhere out there because there's none.
Just think of this concept, to gamble is to lose, that made us clear to us that it's actually our destination to lose, not to win or gain. However, with slots and other luck-based games, if you can be lucky you will win, but it's only rare to be lucky in gambling, what is often is our losses we incur every after gambling. So to gamble is to lose, not actually to get rich quick and become instantly wealthy.
Yes, do not hope to win and could change your life. There are millions of people who are hoping for that jackpot, and remember the jackpot is taken only by one winner in a week, months, or even years. Games of chance are programmed to be lost by the majority 'cause the house really needs to grab the money, it's a business after all. There are occasional winners, but they are the exception rather than the rule, and their stories are used to attract more people to play, telling a really good cinderella story. Luck-based games are obv deceptive because they create a false sense of hope through small wins or near misses, tricking players into thinking they are close to a jackpot so always be careful.
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I want us to be this sure to know that the gamblers don't mostly make some adequate preparation/plan over the bet they are playing except they have won, this is common because they also don't know what may turns out form the bet taken, knowing that one often losses than he won in gambling, many of them could have assume there is no need for making any preparation on ground when there is no certainty that they are going to win, except the few, will do so before and or after they have won.
It's not common, I call it reality.

Whenever a gambler loses, you know what's next to it. I am not trying to be good here but I won't be a hypocrite too. I've seen myself in that position and I want many gamblers to learn from it. Gambling is so much fun but we cannot bury our life into thinking there's a lucky strike somewhere out there because there's none.
Just think of this concept, to gamble is to lose, that made us clear to us that it's actually our destination to lose, not to win or gain. However, with slots and other luck-based games, if you can be lucky you will win, but it's only rare to be lucky in gambling, what is often is our losses we incur every after gambling. So to gamble is to lose, not actually to get rich quick and become instantly wealthy.
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