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Quote from: Distraction on November 08, 2022, 02:23:13 PM

I also don't like to watch any driver dominating the whole season in F1. Who would like that in the end?

Of course there are so many people who are fans of winner drivers. But even they must be getting bored to see the season ending very early. If Ferrari didn't start to fail this much quickly then maybe we could have witnessed a fierce championship race between Verstappen and Leclerc. I really think that Leclerc is also an amazing driver and he deserves a title run. I still don't believe in Ferrari much about next season. Because they have shown bad examples to us for a long time. Even if they do good at first again I'll continue to doubt their performance in the long run.

Beside those there are also people running in a pool for F1 prediction on the forum here so I am one of them and normally if I was not a part of it I would also not watch the remaining F1 races as it does not make any sense.I also do not understand what joy can those who are for example fans of Verstappen see him win again after he is already Champion,that would not give any emotions to me if I was his fan.

Everything,every team is preparing already from much time now for the next car season,some teams started very early once they saw that they could not get anything from this season and hopefully next season would bring more joy than this one and a fiercer competition.

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I also don't like to watch any driver dominating the whole season in F1. Who would like that in the end?

Of course there are so many people who are fans of winner drivers. But even they must be getting bored to see the season ending very early. If Ferrari didn't start to fail this much quickly then maybe we could have witnessed a fierce championship race between Verstappen and Leclerc. I really think that Leclerc is also an amazing driver and he deserves a title run. I still don't believe in Ferrari much about next season. Because they have shown bad examples to us for a long time. Even if they do good at first again I'll continue to doubt their performance in the long run.

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Now that Max already won the title and now that Red Bull already has one, that looks like made people not care as much as they used to. I mean last year on the final race, so many people watched that I think it beat UCL finals or something, that was a huge amount of people watching at the same time, it was giant.

This year Max ended it early, which made it boring once again, just like the times Lewis won with ease before the season was over, and that makes viewership numbers go down. All those Lewis fans and max fans should realize that, their drivers winning doesn't really feel good for the sports fans, we don2t care who wins, we just care to see a fight fort it, if it is easy for anyone, it’s just boring.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 07, 2022, 09:14:19 AM

Although I don't see much in full this season because my TV signal is bad you deserve to be a champion. Next is The task for Asian manufacturers, if they want to survive and their champions must make improvements immediately.

If you have problems with a bad TV signal, try to subscribe to streaming SPO TV or through the SBO TV application which you can also use for free on your android smartphone. Today, all manufacturers who are still competing next year are also conducting tests in order to be able to make a super competitive motorcycle package to be used next year.

Quote from: yudi09 on November 08, 2022, 03:01:49 AM

2022 will be a year that will be and will be remembered the most by Ducati. "Clean sweep" can be called for them in this year's achievements from the manufacturer to the satellite team.

That is a very, very decent and reasonable thing to get by a manufacturer based in Bologna, Italy (DUCATI). Because Ducati has spent a lot of money in terms of engine innovation and development, everything that Ducati has gained this year is natural. And even I don't think that's enough for Ducati because they haven't been world champions for a long time before this year.

Quote from: Koal-84 on November 08, 2022, 04:50:10 AM

I don't trust Honda next year either and there is only hope for Yamaha, Aprilia simply has a very small budget, but they get the maximum out of it.

Honda has had a very bad record this year and they seem to be struggling to make a competitive bike next year. So I also don't believe that Honda can make better results, but for Yamaha it's also very unlikely to get better if their new engine is not developed according to what their rider wants.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 06, 2022, 03:29:31 PM

While there are only two races left I see only one competition which is worth following in the remaining time of the season. It is between Perez and Leclerc for the second spot in the driver standings. After a solid race by Perez and Ferrari's struggles in the last race, Perez has got ahead of Leclerc by 5 points again. This rivalry is still fired up a lot and everything can change by every race remaining.

Ferrari should work out their problem in the last race and be ready for the Brazil GP. I know that they are already focused on next season's car. However they should at least be able to give a proper working car for Leclerc in the remaining races. Maybe it isn't like the championship but it would definitely be more satisfying for Leclerc to finish the season right behind Verstappen.

Let’s not forget that F1 is a place where you could be great or terrible in a span of just one season. Someone who became a champion a year earlier, could end up being middle pack next season, all based on regulation changes and new cars.

It means Max will want to win every single race, so that he could tally up a great run of wins, if he could end up with like 7-8 seasons as the best driver of the best car just like Lewis Hamilton did, it would be easy for him to break all of Hamiltons records, both championship and pole position and race wins. However, by 2026 we will have a brand new system in the car and Red Bull may or may not be great. This is why it is important for Max to win even when it doesn't matter, so he can tally up more wins for his career totals.

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Quote from: wmaurik on November 07, 2022, 08:25:41 AM

And what's unique is that this season, none of the Asian manufacturers have won the world Grand Prix, both in the Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP classes. This is really amazing because everything is controlled by European manufacturers and also in the MotoGP class the package is super complete when the Italian rider gets the world champion using a motorbike from an Italian manufacturer.

Their Motor Development has been incredible. Even today they dominate the number of MotoGP riders and champions this season. I think it's because of their considerable financial factors that they managed an Asian manufacturer that for several years has dominated MotoGP.
Congratulations to Bagnaia you're the champion of the season. After Casey Stoner you are the driver who made history after a hiatus of fifteen years. Although I don't see much in full this season because my TV signal is bad you deserve to be a champion. Next is The task for Asian manufacturers, if they want to survive and their champions must make improvements immediately.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on November 06, 2022, 10:01:19 AM

Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).

Ducati this season has been extraordinary and the achievements that have been achieved by Ducati this season are not only about the Triple Crown. But there are nine achievements that have been achieved by Ducati this season according to local sources that I read, including;

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 06, 2022, 05:23:14 PM

Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.

Next year is far ahead,I think all Italy should celebrate his win as it is a win that is been waiting for from 13 years already,he ended the Italy fast which I think the last winner was on 2009 from Valentino Rossi.I don't remember Dovizioso to have won any Championship but maybe I am wrong.Pecco was great yesterday as he did ride really well with a pragmatic ride and fully deserves this title after making great races in the last recent ones who gave him the so much needed confidence to become Champion,so only congrats to him.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on November 06, 2022, 10:01:19 AM

Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).

Yes. Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia on the 2022 MotoGP world champion and congratulations to Ducati on the long wait. Congratulations also to Fabio Quartararo who has made this year's race full of competition so that the winner must be determined in the last series of events.

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Because considering that Ducati has also not won the world championship through their riders after the first time in 2007 together with Casey Stoner from Australia. Likewise with the riders from Italy where it has been a long time since Valentino Rossi was last world champion in MotoGP and now Francesco Bagnaia has brought the fragrance back to Italy together with the Italian factory bike.

In addition, Francesco (Pecco) Bagnaia became the first rider to become world champion from the Valentino Rossi VR|46 academy from several other racers. Valentino Rossi's dream to give birth to a world champion from VR|46 has come true through Pecco.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 06, 2022, 05:23:14 PM

Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.

The overall package of Bagnaia and Ducati was simply better than Yamaha and Fabio, next year with the new line-up I see the Ducati factory team being the strongest team next year. Yamaha also seem to have made progress with the engine, so next season will be exciting.

Honda and Marquez I don't see good enough to fight for the title, podiums and wins yes. Titles no.

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Bagnaia is the winner!
He did not fail this one opportunity he got.

Quartararo is a better driver IMHO but he can't ride in the rain.

The next year we will back to Marquez dominance.

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While there are only two races left I see only one competition which is worth following in the remaining time of the season. It is between Perez and Leclerc for the second spot in the driver standings. After a solid race by Perez and Ferrari's struggles in the last race, Perez has got ahead of Leclerc by 5 points again. This rivalry is still fired up a lot and everything can change by every race remaining.

Ferrari should work out their problem in the last race and be ready for the Brazil GP. I know that they are already focused on next season's car. However they should at least be able to give a proper working car for Leclerc in the remaining races. Maybe it isn't like the championship but it would definitely be more satisfying for Leclerc to finish the season right behind Verstappen.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 06, 2022, 04:32:05 AM

@CLS63 you’re absolutely correct and Hamilton could have broken that record, but the officials stole his victory in the final race in a controversial fashion and sadly there’s nothing that can be done about it now. Furthermore I believe that Max will not only break that record, but he’ll create a new record which won’t be broken for a very long time.

I still do not think that it was a "steal", it could have gone either way, just because of "one lap" that decided it and there may or may not be a wrong decision there, doesn't mean stealing. Stealing is something much bigger, Max went in the last race with literally the same points, Max kept up within 10 seconds or so if I am not wrong, say 20 seconds at worst, and even another regular crash with all right decisions, Max could have won it as well.

Having the title decided on the very last lap means Max deserved it as much as Hamilton. Of course Hamilton deserved it too, nobody can deny that, but that doesn't make Max not deserving neither. It was equally theirs, and I would literally see them share a title to be fair, and would be the first one but totally makes sense to give them bot the title looking at last year.

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Congratulations to Francesco Bagnaia who has succeeded in becoming the MotoGP world champion this season (2022) with the factory Ducati. And congratulations also to the Ducati manufacturer who this season has managed to win three titles at once (Team World Champion, Constructors World Champion and Rider World Champion).

Because considering that Ducati has also not won the world championship through their riders after the first time in 2007 together with Casey Stoner from Australia. Likewise with the riders from Italy where it has been a long time since Valentino Rossi was last world champion in MotoGP and now Francesco Bagnaia has brought the fragrance back to Italy together with the Italian factory bike.

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finally Feco bagnaia became the 2022 MotoGP world champion even though finishing in 9th position was enough to ensure a world title for him,
feco play it safe is not trying to catch F Quantararo because he doesn't want to fail in the last race to make sure this year's MotoGP world title doesn't fail,
once again congratulations to Feco Bagnaia and ending the Italian rider's fast, after valentino Rosi in 2009

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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 06, 2022, 08:05:25 AM

Bagnaia very aggressive although he has so much to lose, madness. Fabio has to give it his all but Bagnaia will say he took the title home, very exciting but the chances of Fabio winning are not really there at the moment.

Bagnaia is just managing the race now that they are already more than half away and as they stand he will be World Champion,even if Fabio goes first it does not get 14 points more but chances are really low for him to go first.It is ending like it should and Bagnaia would be really really stupid if he would force his way trying to overtake the other riders,it can cost him the title and these last minutes of the race are critical and Bagnaia should not lose his calm.The one forced to overtake everyone ahead is Fabio but most probably he is hoping in a crash of Bagnaia rather than go all in.I think no surprises till the end of the race and Bagnaia will be Champion.

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Bagnaia very aggressive although he has so much to lose, madness. Fabio has to give it his all but Bagnaia will say he took the title home, very exciting but the chances of Fabio winning are not really there at the moment.

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