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The race has finally started! We had to wait for around an hour to see the race starting. The track is still not dry.

Perez had a wonderful start by a better reaction than Leclerc and took the lead on the start straight. Sainz also started better than Hamilton and overtook him nicely. Verstappen was one of the losers of the start as he lost four positions already. But he's already started to climb to the top and he is in 9th position currently. I don't think that Perez will be able to keep Leclerc behind too long. But keeping him like that until Verstappen catches up with Leclerc very much would be enough for Perez. I still think that the winner will be Verstappen. But if we see heavy rain again then we'd better be open for surprises.

You know how much Hamilton loves this kind of conditions. Maybe he might find a way to benefit from it.  

I am seeing it live now but the track is wet yeah but surely won't get dry if only the Safety Car keeps racing in there,I am sure that if we start the race normally the track will dry itself much quicker.That standing water won't go away,the commissars are doing a great job trying to shift the water away but I think it can't be done completely.Spectacle is guaranteed if we start to race in the official 2 PM European time but even 30 minutes later I don't think much will change for the better.As always F1 is becoming more and more boring in tracks where rain is there.I remember the good old days of 1980-1990 where races were held in much more difficult conditions than these.

I doubt that Belgium scenario will repeat. Seems that rain already stopped, though, there is now lot of standing water on track. But now 3 hour timer didn't, so they can wait now as long as it needed to start race in safe conditions.

This can be a bad move,the more they waited in Belgium last year the more the rain intensified,if they start when they should 26 minutes from now there is a chance we see some 20-25 laps of a race and if the heavy rain brings the red flag at least we will know we had some decent racing not like Belgium last year which lasted only two laps.

Of course I am hoping for a full race and hoping that the move is the correct one but anytime we have had delay we have not seen a good race.

start delayed by 30 minutes for rain.



Source: https://twitter.com/Gianludale27/status/1576520950396645376


So the start should be at 14.30 CET.

So Russel had indeed a problem with the engine even during the qualifiers because it looked like he cannot use it's full power of the engine and it's good that they decide it to change it here as Russel could still get into top 10 today with a bit of luck and a safety car in his favor.

I also hope that Leclerc will win this one and Vettel will somehow manage to get top 6 in his last race in Singapore.

Update:

Russell changed his engine and he will start from the pitlane.


keep in mind the race starts earlier then usual, in 2 hours ish.

Verstappen has everything in his control,it all depends by him and not anyone else,even if does not become World Champion today is not the end of the world because most probably at the next GP if he does not screw up today or the rain which is expected does not hinder his race,he will be champion in the next GP most likely.Ferrari is not to be trusted in race strategies and when rain will be present it may make it even more evident the mistakes that they can make.I think though that in this track Leclerc has real chances to win if he manages to get away in the beginning and the Ferrari strategy does not make him lose the race like in Monza.

Max Verstappen has 335 points and has a chance to secure his second title at the Singapore GP.
We are all convinced that MAX will be champion again, but I have some interesting numbers to think about what it takes for Max to win tomorrow:

For this to come to fruition, the Dutchman needs a combination of results....
Obviously he needs to finish the race first, but beyond that he needs Leclerc to finish ninth or further back... and Sainz also needs to finish fourth or further back.
There is also the case of Russell, for him the only option left is to win in Singapore to continue with title chances.

Red Bull today did Ferrari thing today for Verstappen. Giving not enough fuel for second fast lap attempt is huge mistake. If there would be fight for title, such mistake can cost a lot, but now it's not tragedy for Red Bull. Really attractive odds for Max win, though, he will start 8th and overtaking in Singapore.
I can't remember when last time someone had chance to get champion title with 5 race remaining. Usually, even if we have obvious leader, such thing happens with 1-2 races remaining. But if Verstappen will get tiel tomorrow, it will summarize this season very well.

They already confirmed it. Race engineers should have taken their time doing the preparations and just let the man drive according to his capabilities. Verstappen was clearly upset on the last minute decision to pit but it's either lose the pole position or take the penalty. Either way, it's still a great drive from him, but it could even be better had he not been limited by his car's fuel and may even take the pole position.

He's gotta put in more work and effort if he wants to stay in a very comfortable position that's for sure, thanks to this unlucky event that happened.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.its-incredibly-frustrating-verstappen-rues-aborted-final-lap-after-going-2-7.2VZHvG8I7pHS4xXw3ro7X0.html

According to the source above, the reason why Verstappen was called to pit on his last attempt was really due to running out of fuel. But he seemed really angry with this situation because he was having a really great lap. As Verstappen also remained on the track instead of entering pit before, it was normal to see this kind of a problem at the end. The other drivers must be really lucky not to have this issue.

This is a really disadvantageous start for Verstappen at the 8th position. Depending on the weather conditions this might be a really interesting race. Verstappen can still climb the positions in a few laps the most easily. But if we see heavy rain and the track doesn't dry up quickly then it is probable to see surprising results also. This might be a big chance for Leclerc to win after taking the pole but I'm still favouring Verstappen highly for now.

There is still no official confirmation, but everyone is leaning towards this version. But in fact, this is unlikely to prevent Verstappen from winning again and, given the next start from the depths of the peloton, this will be another humiliation for all other teams. Although the bookmakers do not consider him a favorite now, his odds are not much different from those of Leclerc:

Leclerc, Charles - 2.35

Verstappen, Max - 3.00

Hamilton, Lewis - 4.00

Perez, Sergio - 10.90

Sainz Jr., Carlos - 17.00

Probably out of fuel.
Cars need to have a certain amount of fuel at the end of the qualify for tests.

If they can't have the amount needed they will have a huge penalty.

Wtf did Verstappen back off from a possible pole position?  Weird...  I guess we'll find out later.

2022 F1 Singapore GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m54.129s   1m52.343s   1m49.412s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m54.404s   1m52.818s   1m49.434s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m53.161s   1m52.691s   1m49.466s
4   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m54.559s   1m53.219s   1m49.583s
5   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m55.360s   1m53.127s   1m49.966s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m55.914s   1m53.492s   1m50.584s
7   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m55.606s   1m53.546s   1m51.211s
8   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m53.057s   1m52.723s   1m51.395s
9   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m55.103s   1m54.006s   1m51.573s
10   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m55.314s   1m53.848s   1m51.983s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m54.633s   1m54.012s   
12   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m55.629s   1m54.211s   
13   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m55.736s   1m54.370s   
14   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m55.602s   1m54.380s   
15   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m55.375s   1m55.518s   
16   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m56.083s       
17   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m56.226s       
18   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m56.337s       
19   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m56.985s       
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing

Well well well , it seems that Aston Martin are really targeting that top 10 with both drivers even from qualifiers. Besides this , I've just read that Aston Martin still has the biggest improvement on the car but also on the important pieces that they are currently developing so only great news are coming from AM lately. I'm a huge fan of them and next weekend they should be in Bucharest for a quick fan show with their F1 car...most likely the testing one from previous year.

Good one for Leclerc.  I for one have always found myself rooting for him.  He's a good driver, even Vettel said so and he respects Leclerc.  It's frustrating to watch him suffer from his team's idiotic calls sometimes.  But don't lose hope if you're a Ferrari fan.  Good things will come as Binotto is a good builder of cars.  It's the team's race strategist who should go.

The country of India with a very strong economic and cultural strength will make its debut in the world automotive sports event (MotoGP) where the schedule is also included in the MotoGP calendar for next year. This is really unique where Dorna is targeting a country with a very large market share of motorcycle users there (India). Buddh International Circuit, as the Grand Prix of Bharat is the latest addition to Kazakhstan which has been included in the MotoGP calendar 2023. So the number of races for next year will be 21 races.
Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/09/30/motogp-to-race-in-india-from-2023/438681

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m57.782s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m58.308s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m58.848s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m59.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m59.562s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m00.373s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   2m00.911s
8   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m01.007s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.010s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.036s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   2m01.089s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.220s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   2m01.245s
14   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   2m01.502s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    2m01.679s
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.791s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   2m01.907s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.066s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.599s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   2m03.510s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013363/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3


was light rain on the track, not a surprise to read the top drivers when skill is involved.

FIA is killing F1 lately and it all started since Liberty Media came to power and started to demand things in left and right and everyone is kinda dancing like they told to. As a long F1 fan , I really lost passion for it during this year because we can all see that they wanna push Max and over hype him like no other driver in history and that makes me sick. Then , we have RBR , who will make anything and try anything in order to make Max win the races no matter what they need to do...overall , this is not F1 I fell in love with 24 years ago...