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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 01, 2022, 04:48:45 AM

The clear favourite is Bagnaia, that he won't be champion is very unlikely but Lin Jarvis is still clutching at that little straw like in the 2006 World Championship when Rossi went into the final as the leader and by a crash he made Nicky Hayden to the World Champion, but Fabio would still have to win which I think is unlikely.

That small chance or most likely impossible for Quartararo to shift Bagnaia's place. All fans most likely hope he crashes and Quartararo goes to the podium, but in sports is not always as expected, some time is far from hope, and this year we sure will have a new champion, Ducati, Bagnaia has a good hand. Seem interesting when I look at the champion's history, 2019 is Honda, 2020 is Suzuki, 2021 is Yamaha, and 2022 is Ducati.

I doubt Bagnaia will be stupid enough to go and crash in this last race.He should be a rational rider and even ride somewhat slower than normal,it is important for him to be in the upper places of the points but he does need a win at all cost to become World Champion.

Quartaro had his chances and he lost them by crashing several times or not riding as well in some races,his chances are extremely slim to become World Champion this year.Nevertheless whoever wins this MotoGP is not the same compared with the times of Rossi,Biaggi,Stoner,Lorenzo and others.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 01, 2022, 04:48:45 AM

The clear favourite is Bagnaia, that he won't be champion is very unlikely but Lin Jarvis is still clutching at that little straw like in the 2006 World Championship when Rossi went into the final as the leader and by a crash he made Nicky Hayden to the World Champion, but Fabio would still have to win which I think is unlikely.

The MotoGP world championship in 2006 was a bit different because the result was known to everyone where Nicky Hayden who managed to finish in 3rd place in 2006 in Valencia immediately became world champion at that time because Valentino Rossi who after a crash was still able to continue racing and finished in 13th place which before the race started Valentino Rossi was still 8 points ahead of Nicky Hayden. [^reference]

This time it looks like it will be different, because Bagnaia will keep himself well and finish in a safer order in order to become world champion this season. But if Bagnaia continues to insist not to play it safe, the thing that is most feared is a crash and it is very fatal if it happens to Bagnaia. Although Quartararo will face a very tough race because he should be able to win in Valencia with a bike that is still very weak compared to other bikes like Ducati.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on November 01, 2022, 04:48:45 AM

The clear favourite is Bagnaia, that he won't be champion is very unlikely but Lin Jarvis is still clutching at that little straw like in the 2006 World Championship when Rossi went into the final as the leader and by a crash he made Nicky Hayden to the World Champion, but Fabio would still have to win which I think is unlikely.

That small chance or most likely impossible for Quartararo to shift Bagnaia's place. All fans most likely hope he crashes and Quartararo goes to the podium, but in sports is not always as expected, some time is far from hope, and this year we sure will have a new champion, Ducati, Bagnaia has a good hand. Seem interesting when I look at the champion's history, 2019 is Honda, 2020 is Suzuki, 2021 is Yamaha, and 2022 is Ducati.

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Quote from: Davian144 on October 31, 2022, 07:14:01 PM

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The clear favourite is Bagnaia, that he won't be champion is very unlikely but Lin Jarvis is still clutching at that little straw like in the 2006 World Championship when Rossi went into the final as the leader and by a crash he made Nicky Hayden to the World Champion, but Fabio would still have to win which I think is unlikely.

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Given this week is the last series for the 2022 MotoGP which will take place in Valencia Spain. So there are several things that will end this year so that next year there will be many changes in the scope of MotoGP, in addition to the competition for the world champion this season for the two riders (Quartararo and Bagnaia) including: [^Reference]

Jack Miller's last race with Ducati
Enea Bastianini's last race with Gresini Racing
Rins and Mir's last race with Suzuki
Miguel Oliveira's last race with KTM
Pol Espargaro's last race with Honda
Darryn Binder's last race in the MotoGP class
Remy Gardner's last race in the MotoGP class
Raul Fernandez's last race with KTM (Tech 3)
Suzuki team's last race in the MotoGP class
RNF Racing team's last race with Yamaha
Alex Marquez's last race with LCR Honda

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Max Verstappen decided to boycott Sky F1 after their reporter Ted Kravitz said that Lewis Hamilton was robbed on last race of previous season in Abu Dhabi. Such statements is one of reason why I can't watch races on Sky F1. They have great coverage of race, but when it comes to Hamilton, they're so biased and don't even try to be neutral. When you're neutral spectator or support other driver than Lewis, it really annoys.

Quote from: dothebeats on October 30, 2022, 06:39:16 PM

Tsunoda and Ricciardo collision isn't a pretty sight too. Not happy with only a 10-second penalty right there and I believe it should have been more.

Well, rules are rules, 10 seconds is already quite strict penalty, though, it could be something like stop and go penalty. Because now he eliminated his opponent from race and that penalty cost hime zero positions.

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It was a race controlled by Verstappen easily from the start to the end. Hamilton was impressive in the first laps of the race especially and he was great about keeping a small gap with Verstappen until the pits. But Mercedes' strategy with hard tyres caused Hamilton to stay much slower than Verstappen in the rest of the race. He hoped Verstappen to slow down with mediums at one point but it didn't happen. The virtual safety car was a chance for Verstappen to get fresh tyres but it would have been a gamble at the same time. Because there weren't many laps left to the finish.

Ferraris were disappointing. But I've heard something like the reason of this slowness was Ferrari's mistake. They didn't have the right settings for this GP and they realized it too late. There was no chance for them to fix this big problem after that. This helped Perez take the 2nd place in the drivers standings once again from Leclerc. The gap is 5 points now. The podium was exactly the same as the previous race in Mexico by the way. Grin

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 30, 2022, 06:31:39 PM

A superior start/finish victory for Verstappen. The strategy with the red and medium tyres was perfect from RedBull. If RedBull hadn't messed up Perez's pit stop, Perez might have finished second, but Perez is now on course for the second spot in the world championship.

I think Pirelli should be under investigation for making all the tires so hard that the mediums and hard barely had any noticeably difference.I think FIA should pressure them more to bring tires which are closer to the description and not the same tires with different names in order for the sport to become more beautiful and to give a chance to teams who will go for hard tires to stay longer,much longer on the track than the medium do but in yesterday race both type of tires stayed equally well in the track.

I agree,Verstappen is on another planet as a driver and he is now the only driver with 14 wins in a single season and he has another two races to even extend that record.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 30, 2022, 05:51:53 PM

Yeah, not most interesting race. I expected that teams will go with 2 pit stop strategy, what maybe would made race more interesting. Mercedes expected that Red Bull will stop twice, this is why they put hard tyres on Lewis car to go till the end, but after all, Mercedes decision wasn't right.
Mixed feelings about Ricciardo. His result was great, but he ruined race for Tsunoda and got 10 second penalty which didn't affected final result, that's a bit unfair.
Good to see local hero Perez finish on podium.

Not a lot of interesting events happened in this race tbh. Just some blunders, some bloopers, and some really bad calls from some teams expecting that the other teams are going to pit. It's like they aired a half-baked tv show just to push through with schedule. But nonentheless, great drive from Perez overall. Most eyes are on Hamilton - Verstappen but Perez took my attention during the last laps of the race.

Tsunoda and Ricciardo collision isn't a pretty sight too. Not happy with only a 10-second penalty right there and I believe it should have been more.

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A superior start/finish victory for Verstappen. The strategy with the red and medium tyres was perfect from RedBull. If RedBull hadn't messed up Perez's pit stop, Perez might have finished second, but Perez is now on course for the second spot in the world championship.

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It was like we watched the same scenario as the previous race here. In that race, Verstappen won and Perez - Hamilton duo were in a competition for the second spot. It happened again and Perez couldn't overtake Hamilton once more. Actually he was really close to Hamilton a couple of times but he couldn't prevent the gap from getting bigger anyway.

Mercedes drivers had a good day as a result. Hamilton couldn't keep up with Verstappen but he still had a great race. I wonder if he would have even a better race in case Mercedes decided to put medium tyres on his car instead of hard ones. But I assume he wouldn't be able to overtake Verstappen due to a big power difference still.

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Yeah, not most interesting race. I expected that teams will go with 2 pit stop strategy, what maybe would made race more interesting. Mercedes expected that Red Bull will stop twice, this is why they put hard tyres on Lewis car to go till the end, but after all, Mercedes decision wasn't right.
Mixed feelings about Ricciardo. His result was great, but he ruined race for Tsunoda and got 10 second penalty which didn't affected final result, that's a bit unfair.
Good to see local hero Perez finish on podium.

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Boring Gp so far but Mercedes still have a shot.
Ferrari can't battle it seems they are down with power for reliability safety.

Can Hammer Time be able to win?

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on October 30, 2022, 02:20:56 PM

There is a really tough race waiting for Perez as far as I can see now. Because Mercedes drivers have shown really promising performances so far. Qualifying was just great for Russell and Hamilton both and Perez is starting right behind these two drivers today. Ferrari drivers seemed really weak in qualifying but the race is always the most important part of course. But it will still be difficult for Leclerc and Sainz to get to podium this time.

It wouldn't be bad to see Perez winning this race as it is special for him. I don't doubt that he will do his best in the race. But even if he manages to overtake both Mercedes drivers, he will still need to do the same to Verstappen also. Truthfully, this seems really hard to witness. Verstappen is still giving his best into the remaining races despite announcing his championship.

Verstappen will win the race without problems if the race is held in normal conditions even if he is overtaken in the beginning by the Mercedes cars.Redbull is well known for offering better race strategy than everyone else and this together with the driving skills of Verstappen is a sure thing to guarantee Verstappen a race win.

If he has problems in the car,the weather changes suddenly,safety car deployments can all change the outcome of a race that is being held in normal conditions and as such make the race completely unpredictable.

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There is a really tough race waiting for Perez as far as I can see now. Because Mercedes drivers have shown really promising performances so far. Qualifying was just great for Russell and Hamilton both and Perez is starting right behind these two drivers today. Ferrari drivers seemed really weak in qualifying but the race is always the most important part of course. But it will still be difficult for Leclerc and Sainz to get to podium this time.

It wouldn't be bad to see Perez winning this race as it is special for him. I don't doubt that he will do his best in the race. But even if he manages to overtake both Mercedes drivers, he will still need to do the same to Verstappen also. Truthfully, this seems really hard to witness. Verstappen is still giving his best into the remaining races despite announcing his championship.

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Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

They have all the time they need in the start because there is a huge big straight before they arrive at the first turn so they can play a team game here and both Mercedes cars to attack Verstappen.If Max gets away in the first corner that is most likely game over but let's not forget also Perez which will be extra motivated here and even he has an equal chance to come out first in the first corner because of that big straight.

On strategy I doubt Mercedes can make a better strategy than Redbull unless they are willing to try a different approach,as we have seen in the qualifying there were nothing different to try,all the cars were using the red tires.Even for today race most likely everyone will go with a 2 pit stop strategy.

I do agree that Max would be in the biggest danger during the first straight, considering what George did to Sainz last week, and what he has done quite frequently before, Max needs to be careful about something similar, and if he can get away from both of them at the first turn and come out at the first place, then he will definitely not going to be doing anything harder after that and just take the race.

Even in that situation it's hard if both Mercedes drivers are chasing him, it would cause him to lose a lot of tire, and he would have to pit quicker as well to keep up at the top spot. It will be a fun race to watch for sure, Red Bull vs Mercedes again.

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Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

They have all the time they need in the start because there is a huge big straight before they arrive at the first turn so they can play a team game here and both Mercedes cars to attack Verstappen.If Max gets away in the first corner that is most likely game over but let's not forget also Perez which will be extra motivated here and even he has an equal chance to come out first in the first corner because of that big straight.

On strategy I doubt Mercedes can make a better strategy than Redbull unless they are willing to try a different approach,as we have seen in the qualifying there were nothing different to try,all the cars were using the red tires.Even for today race most likely everyone will go with a 2 pit stop strategy.

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Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

Mercedes also surprised me a bit, but the favourite for today's race is Verstappen again. Let's see how well Perez does in his home race, even if he would be second I don't think Verstappen would let him win?

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Pole for Verstappen, with good Mercedes on p2 and p3.

It will be an interesting race, Mercedes can only win strategy here since it will be very very hard to overtake (if they can follow Max)

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Mercedes drivers seemed really fast in FP3 indeed.

However I'm not sure about a pole position for any of Russell and Hamilton. I'm thinking of more about Perez for taking the pole position honestly. Because this is a really important race for him as he is home now. Hopefully he has got prepared well for qualifying session to show his best performance. As it will be really difficult for him to win the Mexico GP at least he can impress the fans by starting in first place to the race. As for the race, I still think that he can finish it in second place at worst. It'd be an improvement considering his last race here.

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