I am super excited to see the F1 season starting this weekend. However, with still nothing known about which car being faster than the other, and which teams figuring out the problems and which ones who haven't, it is going to be hard to wager on the first race. We will obviously see which team will be better after the first race a bit better, but it also doesn't mean that we won't have changes after the first few races.
Even if this bouncing problem exists for most teams, after the first one or two races, we will have all teams figuring out a way to stop that, which will be the real season start. Bahrain will be more like testing 2.0 instead of being a real race if you ask me.
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March 16, 2022, 04:54:47 PM
March 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
Decent odds for Max Verstappen actually. He's is at 3.00 the last time I looked with Hamilton around 3.45. And yeah that's the thing, we're all guessing here... Even the sports betting sites are guessing here. 
It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying. And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain.
It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying. And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain.Yeah, you might be right. 3.00 is decent for Verstappen. I wouldn't put any money on Hamilton though, I do think some of the Merc problems are genuine and they will be behind Ferrari and Red Bull at least in the first race. And yes, if Max storms through qualifying and takes a dominant pole, those odds would deteriorate significantly. But I'm still not willing to bet yet... a Max win certainly seems possible, but so many other things seem just as possible, too.
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March 16, 2022, 07:38:14 AM
The Repsol Honda racer has a good record in the MotoGP class when he first races on a new track
Source: https://www.instagram.com/crashnet_motogp/
So what about the new track in Indonesia this time, guys? Is Marc Marquez able to finish in front as the first because considering the test last month was also won by Marc Marquez's team mate, Pol Espargaro.
March 16, 2022, 04:56:34 AM
Are both (Suzuki and Yamaha) still using the same machine, Inline-4?. when I look at a year ago, Suzuki looks aggressive than Yamaha with the same machine, but for sure it depends on who the racer in. Mir said Yamaha is more than smoother, maybe because Yamaha especially Quartararo choose right tires so that when being around in bend, Yamaha looks smooth with no slip.
Yes the Suzuki and Yamaha have the same engine concept the 4 cylinder inline engine. But it seems that Suzuki has improved the engine a lot in the last two years, last year the engine development was frozen, so the last engine was in use for two years and this year there is a new engine, and all teams except apparently Yamaha have made a step forward, whether the Yamaha is smoother than the Suzuki is hard to say.
Here is a very good comparison between the V-engine and the in-line engine.
https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2017/09/22/inline-4-vs-v4/240281
March 16, 2022, 04:14:30 AM
Thank you for the warm welcome Indonesia We are so happy to be back here for the GP after 25 years! #IndonesianGP #MotoGP #Parade
Source: https://www.instagram.com/motogp/
Video link: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbJmeVKsIKv/
I am very happy when I see a successful parade today in Jakarta because it can also be a promotional event for all manufacturers even though I didn't see Yamaha in the parade and I also don't understand why Yamaha wasn't there.
Source: https://www.instagram.com/motogp/
Video link: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbJmeVKsIKv/
I am very happy when I see a successful parade today in Jakarta because it can also be a promotional event for all manufacturers even though I didn't see Yamaha in the parade and I also don't understand why Yamaha wasn't there.
March 16, 2022, 01:50:26 AM
In terms of winning chances, you must always look at a motorbike with great power, but in this case I will also look at each rider with different potential because when a motorbike with high power is ridden by a rider who does not have more potential, then he will also not be able to win.
I saw Yamaha's performance decline this season at the Qatar Opening Race a few weeks ago.
for the next race at the Mandalika circuit it is very difficult to predict who will be in the front row because this is a new circuit.
Even so, I still prefer Ducati to be in the front row or compete in the front row because they have very high power.
March 16, 2022, 01:08:48 AM
Maybe this Mandalika series will be the first time I see a Moto GP race done during the day, with a time difference of 2 hours in my province. Although I won't see it in person, I'm looking forward to this moment. Of course I will feel proud, maybe this is the first time I know MotoGP is done in my country, although if I read there was once a MotoGP event in Indonesia.
The MotoGP event had indeed existed in Indonesia during Doohan's time at the Sentul circuit in 1996 and 1997 where Doohan had won the race there and at that time Valentino Rossi himself was still in the 125cc class (if he now calls it Moto3). So Mandalika this time will be a new series for Indonesia in the world Grand Prix event.Quote
The chances of a race result are probably me to remain favourites for the bike with great power. The results of the trial conducted by Pol Espargaro became the fastest rider in quartararo. But maybe for the main series it will be very different because the speed of each lap does not necessarily determine the outcome of the race.
In terms of winning chances, you must always look at a motorbike with great power, but in this case I will also look at each rider with different potential because when a motorbike with high power is ridden by a rider who does not have more potential, then he will also not be able to win. 
March 16, 2022, 01:01:28 AM
I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.
The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.
Everything will come up, but unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has made a step forward with the engine. This was best seen at the last Grand Prix, where Suzuki was able to overtake a Honda from the slipstream on the straight, which would have been almost impossible last year, and almost impossible for Yamaha this year. Suzuki has improved the power of its engines and found something in contrast to Yamaha.
Are both (Suzuki and Yamaha) still using the same machine, Inline-4?. when I look at a year ago, Suzuki looks aggressive than Yamaha with the same machine, but for sure it depends on who the racer in. Mir said Yamaha is more than smoother, maybe because Yamaha especially Quartararo choose right tires so that when being around in bend, Yamaha looks smooth with no slip.
March 15, 2022, 04:50:15 PM
I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.
I imagine teams will have all sorts of problems, as these are brand new car designs that haven't been properly tested in a full-speed race situation yet. I'm expecting a few retirements, as there are a few teams who have had reliability issues in the pre-season. We've still yet to see really whether the closer racing is possible or how much of an issue tyre deg will be, too.. Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.But the new season is nearly here now... can't wait!
I mean it is clear to me that we are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars worth teams and there must be some rules broken and testing seems to be one of the main ones. They have proposing problem right now and that requires insane amount of testing to figure out the best possible method and in order to find that, you gotta do a lot of testing. Could be done in a week if they do it illegally and not follow the hours rule.
March 15, 2022, 11:47:02 AM
looking to bet it on the season opener. I think it's one of the Ferraris who wins the race. LecLerc at 6, Sainz at 9. Hmmm.. I think Carlos Sainz gets it. What do you guys think?
If I had to put a bet on right now, then I'd go with a Ferrari, yes, or maybe Max depending on what the odds are.
But I'm not willing to bet at the moment, as I just don't think we'll have anything like a clear picture until after qualifying. This season is the start of a new era, and there are too many unknowns.
I'd go Ferrari if I had to, but that's largely guessing.
Decent odds for Max Verstappen actually. He's is at 3.00 the last time I looked with Hamilton around 3.45. And yeah that's the thing, we're all guessing here... Even the sports betting sites are guessing here.
It's why I think some value could be had before qualifying. And the sportsbetting sites could also be slow in adjusting the lines for the next couple of races if either of the Ferraris win at Bahrain. March 15, 2022, 10:59:47 AM
I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.
The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.
Everything will come up, but unlike Yamaha, Suzuki has made a step forward with the engine. This was best seen at the last Grand Prix, where Suzuki was able to overtake a Honda from the slipstream on the straight, which would have been almost impossible last year, and almost impossible for Yamaha this year. Suzuki has improved the power of its engines and found something in contrast to Yamaha.
March 15, 2022, 10:09:08 AM
At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.
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My favourite remains on Ducati, Honda or KTM. I'm not too sure about the condition of Yamaha if you look at the qatar series. Indeed the character of the circuit is different but the dominance of motor power will be very profitable here.~snip~
Regarding the preparation of asphalt coating, it seems to have been done. That's faster than the target. I don't think any drivers are complaining. The guided stands are also seen finished installation.
Here is one of the appearances of asphalt coating results.
Source
March 15, 2022, 06:24:19 AM
I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.
The engine character between Suzuki and Yamaha is not much different and last year only Fabio Quartararo was able to keep the tires very well so he could win several races, but for Mandalika there is no record of any races (especially MotoGP) except SuperBike.So if Suzuki can steal the show in secret, then I'm also sure that Yamaha can do it well too.
March 15, 2022, 06:16:13 AM
I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.
. Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.I imagine teams will have all sorts of problems, as these are brand new car designs that haven't been properly tested in a full-speed race situation yet. I'm expecting a few retirements, as there are a few teams who have had reliability issues in the pre-season. We've still yet to see really whether the closer racing is possible or how much of an issue tyre deg will be, too.
But the new season is nearly here now... can't wait!
March 15, 2022, 05:43:33 AM
At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.
I also see that for Yamaha, but if the Yamaha factory riders can continue to put pressure on their opponents during the Race, then victory is still very possible to achieve even though it is not an easy thing for Yamaha, let alone having to devour 27 Laps during the Race. Which is very demanding of the racers in terms of maintaining their tires very well.I don't see the chances for Yamaha like that, but there are only a few days left until the Grand Prix, on Saturday after the qualifying we will already know more if the Yamaha riders have a chance on the podium, last year Yamaha also had problems with the tyres for a long time. It will take a bit of luck to choose the right tyres for the many laps including corners. At Mandalika it could easily be that the Suzuki riders could be the secret favourites.
March 15, 2022, 04:49:55 AM
At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.
I also see that for Yamaha, but if the Yamaha factory riders can continue to put pressure on their opponents during the Race, then victory is still very possible to achieve even though it is not an easy thing for Yamaha, let alone having to devour 27 Laps during the Race. Which is very demanding of the racers in terms of maintaining their tires very well. March 15, 2022, 04:43:07 AM
It is planned that the Mandalika MotoGP Race will be held for 27 laps, for Moto2: 25 laps, Moto3: 23 laps and ATC: 16 laps
MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)
Source: motorsport & gpcornercom
When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?
MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)
Source: motorsport & gpcornercom
When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?
At the Mandalika MotoGP Grand Prix, I'm more curious to see if the officials have managed to get the circuit in optimal condition to ensure the safety of the riders. The layout of the Grand Prix doesn't look so fast, so the Yamaha riders might not have such a big disadvantage, but I don't think they can fight for the victory.
Layout of the Mandalika Grand Prix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandalika_International_Street_Circuit
March 15, 2022, 03:33:07 AM
It is planned that the Mandalika MotoGP Race will be held for 27 laps, for Moto2: 25 laps, Moto3: 23 laps and ATC: 16 laps
MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)
Source: motorsport & gpcornercom
When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?
MotoGP : 27 laps (116.1 Km)
Moto2 : 25 laps (107.5 km)
Moto3 : 23 laps (98.9 km)
Source: motorsport & gpcornercom
When I saw the number of laps, it immediately occurred to me that the area of the Mandalikan circuit is not too big, it looks like the Qatar Circuit because from several races I have seen, the smaller the size of the circuit, the more laps there will be, and vice versa. Is that true ?
March 14, 2022, 08:14:48 PM
I already wanted to check weather forecast for upcoming race, but forgot that we're in Bahrain . Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.
. Anyway, seems that it won't be that hot, 24-26°C during Saturday and Sunday. So, maybe teams won't have problems with overheating brakes.I would guess that the "never get it" option would be even better Obviously big get well soon to Danny and hopefully he gets better until the new season starts. We saw what we can see from the cars already and from here on out I believe that it is all about just getting a bit more racing done.
Yeah, option "never get it" is the best one. But probably it's only matter of time when most us will get covid. From all my friends, colleagues, family, there is very few left who still didn't had covid. Obviously big get well soon to Danny and hopefully he gets better until the new season starts. We saw what we can see from the cars already and from here on out I believe that it is all about just getting a bit more racing done.
March 14, 2022, 02:40:31 PM
Daniel Ricciardo is positive to COVID.
If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.
He is an elite driver.
I think it's unlikely that Ricciardo won't recover until the new season, though it would be interesting to see Piastri. It's a bit shity situation to get Covid and miss tests with completely new car, but still, it's probably better than getting Covid during the season and miss race because of it.If he can't recover Oscar Piastri will be probably his substitute for the race, borrowed from ALPINE.
He is an elite driver.
Obviously big get well soon to Danny and hopefully he gets better until the new season starts. We saw what we can see from the cars already and from here on out I believe that it is all about just getting a bit more racing done.Lando got in a lot of racing thanks to being out there all day. They had to keep getting the car in and out all the time and that is of course not great for getting used to the car but I also believe that the reason why they did that was the fact that they had a lot of testing for Bahrain as well, so they micro managed the car and made it as perfect as it could be probably.
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