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I come late but, really Red Bull and Sergio Perez are extended their contract for two more years? What this mean?.

Firts of all, mean something? i dont know maybe is the first clue about Verstappen going out?, is Perez gonna be and willing to be the second driver for two more seasons, and when his performances are being poor?. I dont know i dont see a good trade for any, only a little for RB as a team.
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So not it is official.

Marques will be Bagnaia team mate from next season, and he will probably beat him. Imho.


About F1, raid in expected in Canada and this is a sad new cause RBR was expecting having problmes in this layout.
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Here the schedule for the next race.  I didn't realize that it's gonna be this weekend.  Lol.  I mean from Monaco to Canada?  That's a long trip.  Imagine bring all their stuff across from Europe to North America and setting them up as fast as possible...

2024 F1 Canadian GP Schedule
Track:  Circuit Gilles Villeneuve



June 7:  Practice 1  13:30 - 14:30
June 7:  Practice 2  17:00 - 18:00
June 8:  Practice 3  12:30 - 13:30
June 8:  Qualifying  16:00 - 17:00
June 9:  Race  14:00

Anyway, do you guys have any idea how bumpy the track in Montreal is?  Red Bull might not be handling the ground effect as well as they used to me thinks...  Leclerc to get the top spot in quali is at 7.00.  Worth the risk?
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Can you share where you got this image? I'm curious how they calculate it. A reverse search only shows that this is posted on Facebook group, which I can't see since I don't have a Facebook account.

I also found it on a Facebook group first. But after you asked this I got also curious.  Grin  After some research, here is the main source where it was calculated depending on what:

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1d2jyj5/world_destructors_championship_after_monaco/#lightbox



I really liked the analysis though. It is very detailed containing how many of specific parts have been damaged, how much those ones have cost the team and a graphical comparison among drivers - constructors on each race weekend.  Smiley



Anyway, there are only 2 days left for Canadian Grand Prix weekend to start. I believe we are going to watch a way more exciting race than Monaco - I hope so at least.  Roll Eyes
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because Ocon and Bearman don't have bad relationship and Ocon might be a good senior for Bearman to be able to pursue a career in F1. And hopefully that's the case, because after all Ocon is still a pretty good racer, but it's just that sometimes he can't control his emotions and is too selfish.
Is there any prior history between them that suggests they are cool with each other? As far as my search goes, I only found they compete once in one of the races[1]. I'm not sure if Ocon will change even if he changed teammates to be honest, it's pretty difficult to change your personality unless there's a big trigger. Maybe his new teams would assume he will stay the same and just fine a suitable teammate for him instead.

[1] https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-oliver-bearman-s-smart-response-to-esteban-ocons-extreme-racing-tactics-gets-appreciated-by-ex-f1-racer/

By the way the image below is said to be showing the total damage costs drivers have caused to their teams after leaving 8 races behind. Perez's accident in Monaco must have made a big impact on his taking the lead.
Can you share where you got this image? I'm curious how they calculate it. A reverse search only shows that this is posted on Facebook group, which I can't see since I don't have a Facebook account.
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By the way the image below is said to be showing the total damage costs drivers have caused to their teams after leaving 8 races behind. Perez's accident in Monaco must have made a big impact on his taking the lead.


Lol, that 5k for tsunoda is something I would wonder. Like these are million dollar worth of cars, what could he have done that would have cost only 5k to fix? I do not think that even the smallest front wing flap damage would be more than that, I do not understand what happens with these cars and how much it costs, and zero damage makes sense if you didn't hit anywhere like Hamilton, but 5k makes no sense, nothing is that cheap, must be something very very funny.

Perez was always a little carless driver, look at last year and how many DNF and damages he had, he races in a way that he puts himself against other drivers, to make sure that he doesn't leave a spot, his defense is great but also it's very costly as well like we can see here.
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It was announced today that Esteban Ocon will leave Alpine at the end of season.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-alpine-announce-they-will-part-ways-with-ocon-at-end-of-2024-season.7ra4uaXdrYOHfklwU9TEqH
Probably nobody isn't surprised about it. He isn't bad driver as he had one win and few podiums, but how he collided with probably every teammate he had is just incredible. I'm sceptical about his chances to get seat in other team for the next season.

I'm not surprised, yeah.  Grin  In fact firstly they were thinking about benching him on the Canadian Grand Prix weekend. But things have really come to this point then. Ocon is normally a really ambitious driver as I said before. But he doesn't know when to be patient and when to be more aggressive. He is just causing his team a serious level of damage in this way.  Sad

He is quite arrogant at the same time. Do you remember his verbal challenge with Alonso? This guy thought he was better than Alonso.  Grin



By the way the image below is said to be showing the total damage costs drivers have caused to their teams after leaving 8 races behind. Perez's accident in Monaco must have made a big impact on his taking the lead.

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I feel like other articles describe his situation in a better light even if he clashes with teammates quite often. Not sure if the news is credible since I've yet to research the reporter, but it seems like Haas and Sauber/Audi are keen to hire Ocon next season[1]. It is from the same writer though.
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It seems that HAAS is a team that has a big chance of recruiting Ocon into their team, and if this is realized then Ocon will be paired with Bearman in the 2025 season. Maybe this will be a pretty good match for HAAS, because Ocon and Bearman don't have bad relationship and Ocon might be a good senior for Bearman to be able to pursue a career in F1. And hopefully that's the case, because after all Ocon is still a pretty good racer, but it's just that sometimes he can't control his emotions and is too selfish. Hopefully he can improve his character.
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About the discussion Martin and Marquez, the decision has been made.

Now that Martin has officially signed with the Aprilia factory team, Marc Marquez will probably join the Ducati factory team.

In any case, two strong rider pairings at Ducati (Bagnaia/Marquez) and Aprilia (Martin/Vinales).

It was a bit surprising, but I assume that Marc will join the factory team.
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Alpines were in a good place to push for points in the end after a horrible start to the season. Ocon should have acted more professionally there. I know he is ambitious but he should act smarter than that.
This man has not learned from his experiences since being with Alonso, he is not a good teammate, he only cares about his ego and only thinks that he is the one who should stand out the most in the team. I understand that he is the main driver in the team, but there are times when you have to let your teammates to the fore, especially when it is an aggressive move on a circuit as narrow as Monaco. From this incident, Alpine should take a firm stance that Ocon must think more openly and act more maturely towards his teammates, because if not, this incident could happen again and it will be detrimental to them since both drivers will DNF in the racing session.
I feel like Alpine is very well aware what type of person Ocon is, and they kept going with him, so they are ok with him being how he is. I know that may not sound smart, because it ruins his situation with his team mate, I mean remember them last year at Australia? They both dnf'd because they crashed into each other.

They realize that they are not going to get many points anyway and they are one of the worst teams, so they realize that the best way to get any points would be being ruthless, yes it is terrible when its teammates crashing to each other, but it is also very good because if Ocon is racing against another team, they know that Ocon won't give an inch of room and most will be fearing to pass him on corners and only look for drs straights.
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He isn't bad driver as he had one win and few podiums, but how he collided with probably every teammate he had is just incredible. I'm sceptical about his chances to get seat in other team for the next season.
I feel like other articles describe his situation in a better light even if he clashes with teammates quite often. Not sure if the news is credible since I've yet to research the reporter, but it seems like Haas and Sauber/Audi are keen to hire Ocon next season[1]. It is from the same writer though.

On the other hand, Jack Doohan will likely replace Ocon's position next year. Curious to see how he performs if he is indeed chosen to debut next year. Some articles suggest he's quite the favorite in the squad.

[1] https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/analysis-what-next-for-esteban-ocon-and-alpine-after-his-exit.6XDQqcs4ehZSvxWnH6mtca
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It was announced today that Esteban Ocon will leave Alpine at the end of season.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-alpine-announce-they-will-part-ways-with-ocon-at-end-of-2024-season.7ra4uaXdrYOHfklwU9TEqH
Probably nobody isn't surprised about it. He isn't bad driver as he had one win and few podiums, but how he collided with probably every teammate he had is just incredible. I'm sceptical about his chances to get seat in other team for the next season.
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There are still a lot of free places in the teams for next year, if Bastianini doesn't improve a lot I personally assume that Martin will get the place in the factory Ducati team. I can see Marc Marquez joining the Pramac-Ducati team with an up-to-date bike with the latest specification.

But Ducati will certainly wait and see with the contracts.
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1   Jorge Martin   171
2   Francesco Bagnaia 153
3   Marc Marquez 136
4   Enea Bastianini 114

The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.

Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM

Marquez is not worthy to be underestimated unless he is still at Honda like last season, and if your prediction is that Marquez can be in second place at the end of this season, I will put Francesco Bagnaia as first at the end of this season and that is my personal prediction without looking at the accidents that could still happen to any rider this season.

And for Pedro Acosta, I have also read the news that the rookie will be on the factory KTM team next season which will make the seat on the Gasgas team empty because there is no rider to fill that seat. I think Pedro Acosta really deserves to be on the KTM factory team because he is a seed that has been looked after by KTM for a long time since he was in the Moto3, Moto2 and now MotoGP classes. So it is very natural that one of the KTM factory seats was handed over to Pedro Acosta with proof of the talent that has been visible so far.
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3   Marc Marquez 136
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The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.


Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM

Yes, like last year, Bagnaia and Martin will still compete, Marc Marquez on his Ducati motorbike is one of the challengers to destroy Bagnaia and Martin's dominance. and Marc Marquez after the injury that bothered him this year returned to challenge for the world title,
It must be admitted that Marc Marquez became world champion when he got the right motorbike, showing that Marc Marquez is not finished, it was different when he was on the Honda team, with an uncompetitive motorbike. Marc Marquez seems to have finished, but with a competitive manufacturer, Marc Marquez is like being reborn.
and for Acosta, even though he rides a KTM motorbike, he shows that he is a truly talented racer and is able to compete with Ducati racers. It's good news if Acosta extends his contract with KTM, because this season only KTM and Aprilia are able to compete with the strength of Ducati, not the Japanese manufacturer.
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1   Jorge Martin   171
2   Francesco Bagnaia 153
3   Marc Marquez 136
4   Enea Bastianini 114


The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.


Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM

I think his performance will be enough to get him a spot for next season at the official Ducati.He is beating some of them with the bike of 2023 and that is enough to be considered a top candidate to get the official team.He is the reason I have watched some races of the MotoGP as he has made some beautiful recoveries although not yet a perfect one.Every race he come closer.


you are quite right, marquez has a great chance to get a spot on the official ducati because with the 2023 motorbike but he can get more points compared to bastianini who is the official ducati racer. that is a very good performance because with a slightly lower motorbike performance, but he can maximize it and get a spot in the top three.

but the problem here might be about sponsors, because we know that the sponsor of the official ducati is monster energy, while marquez is sponsored by red bull which is a rival of monster energy. not to mention samsung which is marquez's sponsor has to face lenovo which is the official ducati sponsor. this might be quite a complicated problem if marquez wants to move to the official ducati.
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1   Jorge Martin   171
2   Francesco Bagnaia 153
3   Marc Marquez 136
4   Enea Bastianini 114


The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.


Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM

I think his performance will be enough to get him a spot for next season at the official Ducati.He is beating some of them with the bike of 2023 and that is enough to be considered a top candidate to get the official team.He is the reason I have watched some races of the MotoGP as he has made some beautiful recoveries although not yet a perfect one.Every race he come closer.
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Alpines were in a good place to push for points in the end after a horrible start to the season. Ocon should have acted more professionally there. I know he is ambitious but he should act smarter than that.


This man has not learned from his experiences since being with Alonso, he is not a good teammate, he only cares about his ego and only thinks that he is the one who should stand out the most in the team. I understand that he is the main driver in the team, but there are times when you have to let your teammates to the fore, especially when it is an aggressive move on a circuit as narrow as Monaco. From this incident, Alpine should take a firm stance that Ocon must think more openly and act more maturely towards his teammates, because if not, this incident could happen again and it will be detrimental to them since both drivers will DNF in the racing session.
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The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.


Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM

It was a very important weekend for Bagnaia, but why do you think between three? The title will be decided between Bagnaia and Martin, in my opinion Marc has no say in that and neither does the performance.

As for Acosta, it's a very important step for KTM to tie Acosta down for the long term, if there are no major injuries there is a very good chance that he will become world champion in the future.

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1   Jorge Martin   171
2   Francesco Bagnaia 153
3   Marc Marquez 136
4   Enea Bastianini 114


The wold champion will be one of these 3.

Do not underestimate Marquez, He will be in top2 by the end of the season.


Side news, Pedro Acosta extended his contract with KTM
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